The Official Episode III spoiler thread

The Original Nex · Post by **The Original Nex** » 2005-02-13 07:06pm

Alan Bolte wrote:Looking at my desktop (Kashyyyk), it appears that the planet is almost entirely forrested, or at least green all over. There are some browner areas, but mostly just green. There are, however, some minor seas. This would suggest smaller bodies of water, as well as beaches.

100% forrest would be a little weird, don't you think?

As far as we can tell, only the visible hemisphere is nealy 100% forest.

Hardy · Post by **Hardy** » 2005-02-13 08:33pm

Alan Bolte wrote: 100% forrest would be a little weird, don't you think?

Of course not. It's one of sci fi's biggest brain bugs. Unified climate and terrain without respect to latitude is perfectly normal.

Under SOD, there probably is an explaination for that. One can guess that it must be pretty hot near the equator.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-14 01:16am

Well, even the so-called "uniform" planets appear to have diverse terrain when viewed from space, we usually only get to visit one spesific region.

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-02-14 01:32am

Naboo: Grassy Plains/ Swamp/ Forest
Tatooine: Desert
Coruscant: City
Kamino: Water
Geonosis: Desolate Plains/ Mountain
Mustafar: Lava
Utapau: Holes, dude ... holes
Kashyyk: Forest/ Lakes
Alderaan: Just a real nice place
Yavin: Forest
Hoth: Snow
Bespin: Sky
Endor: Forest again

Star Wars loves its forest eh?

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-14 04:35am

You forgot Dagobah: Swampy......Forest

Saleucami seems to have Mushroom.....Forest

Mygeeto seems to be Crystalline or something.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2005-02-14 02:56pm

VT-16 wrote:You forgot Dagobah: Swampy......Forest

Saleucami seems to have Mushroom.....Forest

Mygeeto seems to be Crystalline or something.

Yes, Mygeeto is crystalline.
Felucia consists of fungal canyons.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-02-14 03:10pm

Just a nitpick:

Geonosis I think would more accurately be described as arid rocky plains and mountains.

Yavin IV is specifically jungle.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-14 06:03pm

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/movie_news/

Nice bit about the Utapauns (both species!), and some rumors and tidbits. (Plus the pic, of course)

V-wings look like 'H' when viewed from the front. That makes sense.

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-02-15 12:39am

+http://www.sandtroopers.com/sandwatch/e ... 13/003.jpg

A Clonetrooper blaster toy, different from those we've seen previously. Note the similairty to the E-11. This may have supplanted the design we've seen on those two trooper pics that came out a while ago (a blaster originaly seen in the Ep 2 VD), or just complement them.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2005-02-15 12:59am

Very nice. More symbols and trademarks of the Empire finally appearing...

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-02-15 02:10am

Finally a decent Stormtrooper blaster toy again!!

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-02-15 04:35am

The full page in question:

Link

This page has a cool feature on Anakin's Jedi Starfighter toy

Notice that it has missiles. I wonder if they're in the film?

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-02-15 04:50am

Spoileriffic's 1206 word report on the entire Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi versus Count Dooku duel scene from Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith.

The ongoing space battle over Coruscant is visible outside the massive windows of the General's Quarters on board the Federation Cruiser. The multi-leveled room is cold and metallic, featuring familiar flower-shaped control consoles on either side of the room. Palpatine can be seen, cuffed to a large (and also familiar) chair, across the room. The sound of the large entry doors are heard and our heroes Obi-Wan and Anakin step in, looking over the room from the small balcony. The two proceed down one of the sets of stairs on either side of the balcony and walk to the kidnapped Chancellor. There doesn't seem to be any sign of the rumored General Grievous... maybe this won't be so hard after all.

Just as the two Jedi reach Palpatine, a concerned look comes over him, and with a nod, he simply says, "Dooku". Anakin and Obi-Wan turn to see Count Dooku step through the entry doors with a SuperBattleDroid at each side. He casually walks forward to the railing and in a sudden and surprising acrobatic feat he springs forward, flipping and twisting over the railing, and sticks a solid landing on the floor below. Rising from his crouched position he unclips his curved lightsaber from his belt, but does not ignite it. The two droids stand guard at the doorway above.

Dooku strides across the room confidently and says, "Your swords please, gentlemen. We don't want to make a mess of things in front of the Chancellor." The two Jedi are not about to underestimate the Count again. They immediately begin shedding their robes in preparation for battle. They walk forward to meet Dooku in the middle of the room. "This time we'll take him together." says Obi-Wan to his former apprentice. Anakin replies, "I was just about to say the same thing." as they come to a stop, standing face to face with Dooku once again.

"You won't get away this time, Dooku." states Obi-Wan as he ignites his lightsaber. Anakin does the same. Dooku holds his saber out at his side and switches it on as well. "Do not assume that just because there are two of you, that you have the advantage." warns Dooku. Palpatine looks on anxiously.

Within moments the duel has begun and the three fighters engage in a flurry of attacks and spins. Dooku manages to keep both Jedi at bay with some extravagant swordplay. After a few seconds the fighting breaks and Dooku steps away from the Jedi, backing toward the entrance side of the room. Anakin and Obi-Wan follow cautiously and together they attack again. This part of the room is more open and the three now fight with large lunges and traverse much more distance. Acting on a quick moment of weakness, Dooku thrusts out his open palm at Obi-Wan, and sends the Jedi flying backward with the Force.

Seen in Webdoc #14.

Anakin does not hesitate to continue his attack on the Sith Lord who cost him his arm 3 years ago. Anakin fights Dooku with much skill and confidence. Clearly, he has grown much more powerful since their last encounter. Anakin forces Dooku backward, and up the nearest set of stairs to the raised balcony.

Obi-Wan gets back to his feet and heads for the other set of stairs. The two SuperBattleDroids on the balcony now open fire on Obi-Wan, who blocks and deflects the blaster shots as he proceeds up the stairs. He ricochets one blaster bolt back at the farthest droid, which strikes the droid's chest and takes him out. The other droid continues shooting and begins walking down the stairs. Obi-Wan swiftly hacks the SuperBattleDroid in half as he passes it to reach the top of the stairs.

See in a recent SW Insider issue.

He rejoins the action and the duel becomes two-on-one again.

Dooku is determined to seperate his opponents so that he can handle them each separately. Dooku delivers a strong kick to Anakin, which sends him tumbling back. Dooku then uses the Force to attack Obi-Wan once again. This time he holds Obi-Wan in place, and levitates him several feet up. Then, in a quick motion, he sends Obi-Wan flying across the room, and into a balcony on a far wall.

Seen in a previous Webdoc (the kick and the holding in place).

After smashing into the balcony's railing, Obi-Wan drops to the floor, unconscious. Dooku intends to finish the job and as he holds out his hand, he uses the Force to pry that balcony from the wall, allowing it to fall onto Obi-Wan. The balcony crashes down, but only part of it lands on Obi-Wan's leg.

Anakin attacks Dooku with even more fury. They fight their way back down the stairs to the floor below. As they grind their sabers against each other, Dooku comments that he senses the dark side in Skywalker: Anger, aggression... "But you do not use it." he says. They clash swords again and fight their way back closer to Palpatine, who watches intently. Dooku and Anakin do battle with all they've got, and in a very quick motion, the victor is revealed.

Anakin hits down Dooku's arms with his lightsaber hilt and pulls Dooku's saber out of his hands in the moment of confusion. Simultaneously he slices his blade through both of Dooku's wrists. Dooku reacts with a shocked expression, and the triumphant Anakin stands tall with a lightsaber in each hand. Dooku looks at his cut-off forearms and drops to his knees. Anakin steps forward and lowers the lightsaber blades in a scissor-like fashion to Dooku's neck.

Seen in screenshot from we don't know where.

Dooku looks up at Anakin and for the first time we see fear in his eyes. Anakin is now hesitating, realizing that killing Dooku is unnecessary since he can now be easily arrested. In a commanding tone, Palpatine says to finish him. Breaking character, Dooku turns to Palpatine with a look of suprise and says, "What?! You promised me amnesty..." This only seems to confuse Anakin. Palpatine again insists that Anakin finish the job. "I know I shouldn't..." Anakin says to himself. But after a few more of Palpatine's words, Anakin looks down at the defenseless Sith Lord and decides it's time to put an end to him for good. Anakin throws his arms to the sides, causing each lightsaber blade to slice through Dooku's neck, decapitating him. Anakin watches as Dooku's head tumbles off of his torso, which promptly collapses to the ground.

Anakin helps palpatine out of his restraints. As Palpatine rubs his chafed wrists and stands, he reassures Anakin, "He was too dangerous to be left alive." Anakin expresses some remorse at what he's done, but Palpatine reminds him that this is not the first time he's done something like this. "Remember what you told me?" Palpatine says, "About your mother and the Sand people?" Anakin does not continue the conversation as he rushes to his fallen friend Obi-Wan. Anakin pulls him from the balcony and inspects him. Palpatine walks past them in a bit of a rush and heads up the stairs toward the doorway.

Anakin reports that Obi-Wan doesn't appear severely hurt. Palpatine turns and looks down from the balcony. "Leave him." he says. Anakin looks up as if to demand an explanation. Palpatine says that they must go quickly, and taking Obi-Wan would only slow them down. Anakin states that he will not leave Obi-Wan behind... "His fate will be our own."

Seems authentic to me, but Palpatine telling Anakin to leave Obi Wan seems a bit of a stretch. Anakin would never leave him, surely Palpatine knows that?

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-02-15 04:59am

Swwweeeeeeet.

Well this should put an end to the stupid 'it's harder to use the Force to levitate people than inanimate objects' crowd once and for all.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-15 07:16am

Seems authentic to me, but Palpatine telling Anakin to leave Obi Wan seems a bit of a stretch. Anakin would never leave him, surely Palpatine knows that?

Apparantly, that is Palpatine´s plan, to leave Anakin without a master. Anakin cares too much to leave him, just to follow the Chancellor´s order.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-02-15 07:29am

VT-16 wrote:
Seems authentic to me, but Palpatine telling Anakin to leave Obi Wan seems a bit of a stretch. Anakin would never leave him, surely Palpatine knows that?
Apparantly, that is Palpatine´s plan, to leave Anakin without a master. Anakin cares too much to leave him, just to follow the Chancellor´s order.

I like Anakin's prophetic reply though; "His fate will be our own." Considering that Anakin/Vader kills both the Emperor and Obi-Wan, and ultimately dies himself. Good bit.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-02-15 10:01am

I didn't see this posted before so here goes; The Millenium Falcon board has an announcement thread with pretty much all the cleaned up images they've scrounged and posted them linearly so that they appear the way they would in the movie. WARNING for those of you who don't want the story spoiled (just pics and stuff) don't read the comments, as they contain plot details they've also managed to scrounge up.

+http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/v ... highlight=

Interestingly they claim that it is Obi-Wan which stows away on board Padme's ship, and not the other way around, which frankly makes a lot more sense.

Petrosjko · Post by **Petrosjko** » 2005-02-15 10:12am

Crown wrote:
VT-16 wrote:
Seems authentic to me, but Palpatine telling Anakin to leave Obi Wan seems a bit of a stretch. Anakin would never leave him, surely Palpatine knows that?
Apparantly, that is Palpatine´s plan, to leave Anakin without a master. Anakin cares too much to leave him, just to follow the Chancellor´s order.
I like Anakin's prophetic reply though; "His fate will be our own." Considering that Anakin/Vader kills both the Emperor and Obi-Wan, and ultimately dies himself. Good bit.

It does tie into the recurrent theme of Labyrinth, where Palpatine keeps trying to get Obi Wan eliminated.

That is a damn cool line, I'll agree.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-15 11:08am

Crown wrote:Interestingly they claim that it is Obi-Wan which stows away on board Padme's ship, and not the other way around, which frankly makes a lot more sense.

Yep, you can see a page from the up-coming ROTS-comic showing Obi-Wan leave Padme and sneak aboard her ship.

Even if Anakin chokes her for betrayal, she still stayed loyal and didn´t bring Obi-Wan to Mustafar knowingly.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-02-15 11:20am

VT-16 wrote:
Crown wrote:Interestingly they claim that it is Obi-Wan which stows away on board Padme's ship, and not the other way around, which frankly makes a lot more sense.
Yep, you can see a page from the up-coming ROTS-comic showing Obi-Wan leave Padme and sneak aboard her ship.

Even if Anakin chokes her for betrayal, she still stayed loyal and didn´t bring Obi-Wan to Mustafar knowingly.

No, I meant that if it was the other way around it would have just led to more of the 'pussification of Obi-Wan' for not being able to detect the Senator's presense on board the ship.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-15 11:35am

Haha, touché!

I got to admit, Obi-Wan will be one fucked-up character at the end of ROTS. I think it will do him good to take a 20 year-long vacation.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2005-02-15 01:30pm

Vympel wrote:The full page in question:

Link

This page has a cool feature on Anakin's Jedi Starfighter toy

Notice that it has missiles. I wonder if they're in the film?

The missiles are mentioned in LoE (Anakin fires a couple). Oh, and according to T'bones latest T'blog, they're now called Interceptors, not starfighters.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2005-02-15 01:34pm

VT-16 wrote:Haha, touché!

I got to admit, Obi-Wan will be one fucked-up character at the end of ROTS. I think it will do him good to take a 20 year-long vacation.

Or to acquire massive ammounts of Corellian brandy for 20 years of guilt...

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-15 02:01pm

Mange the Swede wrote:Oh, and according to T'bones latest T'blog, they're now called Interceptors, not starfighters.

Makes sense since the Aethersprite from AOTC was labeled a "light interceptor".

Or to acquire massive ammounts of Corellian brandy for 20 years of guilt...

"...You will never find a more retched hive of scum and villainy..."

Sounds like ol´Ben took a few trips to Mos Eisley to get wasted and end up in fights.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2005-02-15 10:07pm

Vympel wrote:+http://www.sandtroopers.com/sandwatch/e ... 13/003.jpg

A Clonetrooper blaster toy, different from those we've seen previously. Note the similairty to the E-11. This may have supplanted the design we've seen on those two trooper pics that came out a while ago (a blaster originaly seen in the Ep 2 VD), or just complement them.

I don't like how it has a buttcap and no stock.