Music just dropped another notch

Tinkerbell · Post by **Tinkerbell** » 2005-02-17 11:38pm

Avril Lavigne covering "Fuel" anyone?

Alex Moon · Post by **Alex Moon** » 2005-02-17 11:42pm

Stormbringer wrote: Now Celine Dion doing " You Shook Me All Night Long" was a horror and a travesty.

No way. I don't believe it.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2005-02-18 12:23am

Holy fucking. I saw Fiddler on the Roof a few years ago. I'd forgotten most of the songs. I heard the pepsi commercial and was like "This song sucks, but for some reason I wan't to like it. I wonder why?" And you know why? It was triggering memories of the non sucky version in my skull.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2005-02-20 12:52am

xBlackFlash wrote:Avril Lavigne covering "Fuel" anyone?

I blocked that out. If Metallica had any balls left they would put a hit out on her for that "tribute." There is nothing worse than some pop twat trying to be a punk artist (and probably has no clue who The Clash or the Sex Pistols were but I digress) pathetically attempting to grab some creditibility at the expense of a great hard song. As if she had any idea what it was about.

Alex Moon wrote:
Stormbringer wrote: Now Celine Dion doing " You Shook Me All Night Long" was a horror and a travesty.
No way. I don't believe it.

Ooooh yes, believe the horror. I've seen it and man, it was just painful as hell to watch.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2005-02-20 12:57am

You know what amazes me is the sheer number of people that are just dog piling on this. It amazes me how every discussion of modern music inevitably winds up with a herd of sheepy-people bleating about how bad modern music is?

You know that? The song is a catchy pop remake of a song from a musical best know the the rare slice of the populatio that cares as a Barbra Streisand vehicle. Is such a thing really so horrible or catastrophic? What's so wrong with this?

And for that matter why must people trash all modern music? I grant there's a lot of suck out there. But when has that not been the case? And sure there are bad bands. But that's ignoring a goodly number of bands that are good; they've just committed the sin of being popular.

Tinkerbell · Post by **Tinkerbell** » 2005-02-20 09:02am

Stormbringer wrote:You know what amazes me is the sheer number of people that are just dog piling on this. It amazes me how every discussion of modern music inevitably winds up with a herd of sheepy-people bleating about how bad modern music is?

You know that? The song is a catchy pop remake of a song from a musical best know the the rare slice of the populatio that cares as a Barbra Streisand vehicle. Is such a thing really so horrible or catastrophic? What's so wrong with this?

And for that matter why must people trash all modern music? I grant there's a lot of suck out there. But when has that not been the case? And sure there are bad bands. But that's ignoring a goodly number of bands that are good; they've just committed the sin of being popular.

Well when a thread was created for the purpose of bashing modern music.....

Either way I see your point. I guess with something like music, it means a lot to a great amount of people, and I think it's easier to lament what you see wrong with it.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2005-02-20 09:15am

Isn't Fiddler on the Roof considered one to be one of the most classic musicals of all time?

And, Stormbringer, I really hate to tell you this, but Avril Lavigne is all that is left of punk rock. Not that there was much there to start with, but when people think of "punk" nowadays, she springs to mind. It's sad, but true. At least she's a better "artist" than Johnny Rotten.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2005-02-20 09:18am

xBlackFlash wrote:Avril Lavigne covering "Fuel" anyone?

Yeah a saw that, what was worse was the camera cutting to the crowd and showing James and Lars grinning like idiots while she destroyed it. After seeing that concert i lost my sole remaining bit of respect i had for Metallica.

Back on topic, I couldn't give a toss. Never been a fan of musicals and certainly not a fan of Miss Stefani, well not her musical tallents.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2005-02-20 12:52pm

xBlackFlash wrote:Avril Lavigne covering "Fuel" anyone?

You- you're lying!

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2005-02-20 01:03pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
xBlackFlash wrote:Avril Lavigne covering "Fuel" anyone?
You- you're lying!

No, it was on a tribute to metallica evening on some music channel. Korn covered One, too, and it sucked because they didn't play the solo. I didn't mind the actual song though. Avril sucked, though Fuel sucks anyway.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2005-02-21 05:43pm

HemlockGrey wrote:And, Stormbringer, I really hate to tell you this, but Avril Lavigne is all that is left of punk rock. Not that there was much there to start with, but when people think of "punk" nowadays, she springs to mind. It's sad, but true. At least she's a better "artist" than Johnny Rotten.

That she is all that's left in the mainstream is reason enough to just let it go. She is definitely on the list of "artists" that are simply not worth listening to.

Xephon · Post by **Xephon** » 2005-02-21 06:15pm

Avril Lavinge covered Chop Suey too.

It was terrible. She forgot most of the words and the audience STILL clapped and hollered for her. Bah.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2005-02-22 01:31pm

Stormbringer wrote: That she is all that's left in the mainstream is reason enough to just let it go. She is definitely on the list of "artists" that are simply not worth listening to.

the definition of punk is skewed, its not about anarchy anymore its about how much life sucks. Unfortunately pop bands are being given the punk label (blink 182 anyone?) when they are anything but which is what leads to the problem.

On that note, The Uk alternate music scene is a lot better (and different) than that of america in my opinion.

and finally punk is alive you just have to look for it.

Tinkerbell · Post by **Tinkerbell** » 2005-02-22 01:52pm

Zac Naloen wrote: and finally punk is alive you just have to look for it.

I agree with you on that. Punk isn't dead. New punk music isn't going to happen, because the ideas have been so miscontrued. There are always the classics though, and I think that's better than anything new that would come out anyway.

Punk isn't something that can just die. Punk is an idea, a way of thinking, a way of doing things. Thoughts and ideas held by that many people cannot just die in a span of 30 years. The scene may be brutalized and misrepresented, but it's just that. The scene. It's not symbolic of the spirit of punk. And I think that's a factor a lot of people miss. As long as the original ideas are held by even a small amount of people, it's not dead. The music is only a part of it.

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