ship design

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-14 06:03pm

SW: Mil. Falcon. It's got style.

ST: Enterprise: Kirk's first one. It's a classic.

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2002-11-14 06:44pm

Are you saying that shielding on Wars ships is not canon?

I think he's saying that any difference in shield capabilities between the ISD-I and the ISD-II was never mentioned or shown in the movies.

In either case, I've always liked solid-looking vessels... the ISD design is definitely very solid and rugged, as are most of the Mon Cal designs (even if Home One is a tad... phallic...)

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-11-14 06:51pm

SW: Sovereign. One silouette is all it needed.

ST: Connie Refit. There can only be one!

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-11-14 06:52pm

Corellian gunships are cool, I like the blocky all attack design.

The original Borg cube was cool, though once Voyager came around it was no longer so.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-11-14 11:12pm

Wars: XJ3 type X-wing. Double shields, stronger hull, faster then an A-wing, more manuverable then a TIE Interceptor, 12 torps, 4 heavy laser cannons.

Quite possibly the best fighter ever in the series, with the E-wing and Tie Defender coming close.

Trek: Always been a big fan of the D'Dredrix Warbird.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2002-11-14 11:40pm

I feel so dirty, but for some reason I... like the Galaxy class.

I do prefer the Constitution-refit, though.

As for Star Wars... mm, give me an Executor.

ViciousMink · Post by **ViciousMink** » 2002-11-15 12:39am

From ST, from the TOS/movies era, I really, really, really like the Miranda. The design screams 'tactical/multirole cruiser.' I like it a lot.

However... that being said, the TNG era has some... interesting designs. From that era I like the Akira the 'battleship/carrier'. (I can't imagine one of the members of the Akira-class not being called 'Nadesico'....) But there's one from the old Simon and Schuster Dominion Wars game, called the Achilles-class. It's pretty much a pocket battleship, with high maneuverability -- supposedly, something that has the firepower and range of a Galaxy-class, and the maneuverability and durability of the Defiant-class. And it's got nice, aggro lines.

Still, it's pretty much a munchkiny ship-du-jour.

As for SW... the YT-1300 just has so much charm, I'd be remiss if I didn't name it. Though for sheer 'This is not a good day for you' value, I'd go with an Interdiction Star Destroyer. 'Stay right there... I have a gigaton delivery for you....' That or one of those pre-gravwell cruiser. I like medium, flexible ships.

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Sparkticus · Post by **Sparkticus** » 2002-11-15 12:49am

For Star Wars I like the Hapan Battle Dragon. Let's face it, it's unique...
(Modified Nebulon-B frigate comes a close second)

For Trek, the Voth City Ship from Voyager (ep. "Distant Origin") It doesn't look like a Man'O'War, but it is still a nice design.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-11-15 12:51am

I like the TIE Defender, the TIE Phantom, the YT-2000, the Imperator, the Executor, and the X-Wing from SW.

From ST, I like the Dominion warships, the Excelsior, and the Constitution refit.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2002-11-15 12:53am

Pick one from each? No way!
Star Wars:
SSD
ISD-The differences are minor in terms of asthetic appeal.
Corellian Corvette
Republic Cruiser
TIE Advanced X-1

Star Trek
Klingon D-7 or K'tinga
Refit Constellation
Miranda
And the SFB based, non-canonical, Klingon B-10

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2002-11-15 02:06am

ViciousMink wrote:But there's one from the old Simon and Schuster Dominion Wars game, called the Achilles-class. It's pretty much a pocket battleship, with high maneuverability -- supposedly, something that has the firepower and range of a Galaxy-class, and the maneuverability and durability of the Defiant-class. And it's got nice, aggro lines. Still, it's pretty much a munchkiny ship-du-jour.[/url]

Yeah... how do people justify that sort of thing to themselves when they design that kinda stuff?

I mean... if it's got the firepower/range of a GCS in a smaller body, shouldn't they be able to take that technology and apply it to a larger chassis creating a ship with even more firepower than their little munchkiship?

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2002-11-15 02:19am

As you can see I'm on board the Hapan Battle Dragon Man-Of-War

Moonshadow · Post by **Moonshadow** » 2002-11-15 02:42am

SW:

SSD
ISD
VSD( with fins)
insert letter here- Wing
TIE series
Hounds Tooth
YT-1300
Naboo Starfighter (N-1)
Jedi Fighter ( a micro-sized one man Star Destroyer that can fit in an average two-car garage)
Rebel Blockade runner
Mon-Cal ships

ST:

Nebula Class( it looks way tougher than a damn GCS)
Romulan Warbird ( a big nearly a mile long pissed off bird)
Defiant( "Don't call me tiny")
K-Tinga or D-7
Klingon Bird Of Prey
Neg'Var Class
Soverign Class
the other First Contact Ship Classes
The Semi-Canon Federation Class Dreadnaught
The good old Connie( both versions)
Salidin Class ( another SFB design)
Oberth Class ( stop laughing!)
Miranda Class ( KAAAAAAAHN!!!!!)

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2002-11-15 02:49am

Can't go wrong with the ISD, with the YT 2000 a close second.

From startrek, I have alway's like the Excelcior.

KhyronTheBackstabber · Post by **KhyronTheBackstabber** » 2002-11-15 03:15am

It hard for me to pick a Favorite from Star Wars, seeing how like so many of them.

The Eclips class SSD
The Executor
The Falcon
ISD
Nebula B
Corvets
All kinds of fighters
I really can't think of any I don't like.

Star Trek is the opposet.
The only Trek ship I've ever thought was cool was the Kilingon BoP.

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-11-15 03:53am

ISD Mk1 - the original Devastator

Shadow, you don't identify them by the array in between the domes- you identify them by the heavy turrets and the engines- if there's triple baffles, you're looking at a Mk 1.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-11-15 06:54am

The armor never showed change in appearance. It is impossible see change in shielding(which is not canon).

So we don't see any changes in the armor?

look at the terraces. No differences?
Also note the bridge tower configuration: it's Devastator without the X shaped tractor beam array.

The turbolasers look like circles, as they should in an ISD Mark-II.
The tower is too far away too far away to see in detail, and the hangar is not in view

The heavy turrets on both classes are circular in shape, it proves nothing.

It's not too far away to see the configuration. Look closely, and you'll notice it's the same like in image 1. It's Devastator.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-11-15 07:01am

Wars.

Eclipse II with a Suncrusher squadron or ten. (no star destroying missiles though)

Trek

Excelsior as per ST3 (and pre scottification)

"ready for transwarp dirve"

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 2002-11-15 08:25am

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:ST: Connie Refit. There can only be one!

stop copieing me!

Andras · Post by **Andras** » 2002-11-15 09:52am

ST- Enterprise -C

SW- Home One, with its 10 squadrons of hyperspace capable starfighters

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-15 09:56am

Executor for Star Wars. Big powerful and it look like a knife aimed at the heart of the rebellion

For Trek, the Constitution refit. Theres never better a better design than that.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-11-15 10:16am

SW: a COMPLETED DS2. *evil laugh*

ST: Constitution-refit. That soft blue glow will always appeal to me.

Darth Balls · Post by **Darth Balls** » 2002-11-15 02:41pm

SW: Executer class Super Star Destroyer. Just the sight of it puts me in awe.

ST: None. Their ship design is so terrible I can't name a favorite.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2002-11-15 07:35pm

The Connie refit and the Exeuctor

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2002-11-16 01:47pm

Enterprise class AKA Connie refit. and the Executor