How old are you?Hotfoot wrote:How about those teenagers who actually do know much more than their ignorant parents and most other "clueless" adults? Experiences might come with age, but learning from those experiences is not required. Some adults never do, which is why some children and teenagers will know more than the clueless adults.jegs2 wrote:How accurate a statement that is! As a teenager I was a complete moron who was certain I knew much more than my "ignorant" parents and most other "clueless" adults. Only when one becomes an adult does one realize how idiotic one was as a teenager. Fortunately, most will outgrow those years.Kelly Antilles wrote:Kids are idiots.
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A two year old kid smacks the shit out of another kid. That kid crys and nobody is there to tell the first one he did something wrong. How do you think that child will turn out?Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:No, you can't be taught right from wrong -- most people know the difference already. But you can be told, over and over again, that certain things don't really hurt people, or that it's okay to hurt people if it helps them in some way, or any number of other excuses to kill your conscience and do whatever gets you ahead.data link wrote: If you need to be taught that hurting other people is bad, then you are in serious need of a brain transplant IMO.
I think that kid knows what he did was wrong if for no other reason that he sees the pain exhibited by the other. What he may learn if he is not punished is that he can get away with it.Kelly Antilles wrote:A two year old kid smacks the shit out of another kid. That kid crys and nobody is there to tell the first one he did something wrong. How do you think that child will turn out?
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what is to tell the first kid that it's pain? 2 year olds cry all the time. Maybe he thought he was mad or somethingjegs2 wrote:I think that kid knows what he did was wrong if for no other reason that he sees the pain exhibited by the other. What he may learn if he is not punished is that he can get away with it.Kelly Antilles wrote:A two year old kid smacks the shit out of another kid. That kid crys and nobody is there to tell the first one he did something wrong. How do you think that child will turn out?
Perhaps, but most kids know when they cause pain to another. I'm certainly not advocating our not teaching them the finer points through discipline, but kids generally know wrong from right, especially on so simple a level.Kelly Antilles wrote:what is to tell the first kid that it's pain? 2 year olds cry all the time. Maybe he thought he was mad or something
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I would believe it would foster a superiority within the smacker.
He did an act and was not punished...not rewarded but not punished.
Thus he/she probably believes it's okay...maybe not something very good(no reward) but not something generally bad(no punishment).
If he gets a reward out of it, say he smacked the kid for candy and the other relented...then well it's not all over but something is now there saying if you have power...take what you want.
Reminds me of a few kids I know who go around knocking stuff down and when you lay into them they give you this strange look that's akin to fuck off.
He did an act and was not punished...not rewarded but not punished.
Thus he/she probably believes it's okay...maybe not something very good(no reward) but not something generally bad(no punishment).
If he gets a reward out of it, say he smacked the kid for candy and the other relented...then well it's not all over but something is now there saying if you have power...take what you want.
Reminds me of a few kids I know who go around knocking stuff down and when you lay into them they give you this strange look that's akin to fuck off.
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Exactly. Even an infant knows what signs are associated with pain (remember the first time you had gas?) and knows those signs when he sees them, and especially when he causes them. But what kids are being taught now is that it's only bad if you get caught, you're responsible to no one but yourself, and your only responsibility to yourself is to have fun.jegs2 wrote:I think that kid knows what he did was wrong if for no other reason that he sees the pain exhibited by the other. What he may learn if he is not punished is that he can get away with it.Kelly Antilles wrote:A two year old kid smacks the shit out of another kid. That kid crys and nobody is there to tell the first one he did something wrong. How do you think that child will turn out?
Actually I'm a moron, not an idiot .Kelly Antilles wrote:Pardon me, MOST kids are idiots. I did not mean to offend any of the very intelligent young people on this board. It's just that young people these days are not taught morals or right from wrong anymore.data_link wrote:Cmon Kelly, that's a sterotype and you know it. It would be just as accuracte to say that adults are idiots.Kelly Antilles wrote:Kids are idiots.
My prejudices
Black People and Black pride
Asian People and Asian pride (ironically I'm asian)
Hispanic People
Athletes
Cheerleaders
White people with brown hair
Gay people (still in the process of removing society's indoctrination, since I live in a community with lots of gay bashers, and I still use it as an insult)
Overly religious people (it's not their fault they have been indoctrinated)
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This by the way is one of my biggest pet peeves - that kids are taught their purpose in life is to have fun. What kind of a shitty purpose is that? Are we honestly going around telling kids that they shouldn't be worried about such things as personal responsibility because they aren't mature enough to handle it, that they shouldn't be worried about making themselves useful because they are good for nothing except having fun, and then wondering why they will far too often become bullies and sloths when they are told for years that they shouldn't be dealing with REALITY? Seriously, that's really fucked up. If your kids don't have anything useful to do, then why don't you just say that or better yet - put some effort into rectifying the situation. It has been proven consistently that people who have some sort of a job, or otherwise perform some useful purpose to the community, have far superior mental health to those who do not. And yet, we not only discourage kids from working, but we also fill their time up with extracurricular activites which accomplish absolutely nothing (except in those rare instances where people actually end up playing sports or music for a living). School is a waste of time - the vast majority of assignments are busywork. We (attempt to) restrict our children from seeing "adult" issues such as money, death, pornography and the like - sending a total message that amounts to "you are useless." And then we wonder why kids have low self-esteem, or why they will take out their frustrations on some other kid in an attempt to prove that he isn't in the lowest position on the totem pole.Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:But what kids are being taught now is that it's only bad if you get caught, you're responsible to no one but yourself, and your only responsibility to yourself is to have fun.
There are a lot of stupid kids alright. But the big problem is that for every stupid kid there are at least two stupid adults directly responsible for that kid.
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Technically, that makes you smarter.Pu-239 wrote: Actually I'm a moron, not an idiot .
Why?Pu-239 wrote:White people with brown hair
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I knowdata_link wrote:Technically, that makes you smarter.Pu-239 wrote: Actually I'm a moron, not an idiot .
A lot of athletes at my school fit this descriptionPu-239 wrote:White people with brown hair
Why?
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Ah.Pu-239 wrote:A lot of athletes at my school fit this descriptiondata_link wrote:Why?Pu-239 wrote:White people with brown hair
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Don't be afraid! I'm Mexican American and I tell you the legit immigrants can't fucking stand the lazy ones and the ones who won't learn English and are involved with drugs. Traditionally Mexicans liked to be known for being hard-, if menially, working good people who minded their business and provided for their families. It's gotten worse, much worse. Now a lot of Mexicans are as bad as the poor apathetic blacks and whites. (Notice: not all blacks or whites are poor or apathetic, but they generally had a bad rep for drugs and welfare mooching that a lot of Mexicans have now joined). This annoyance plays over for a lot of lazy Americans by the legit immigrants, who generally respect hard-work, but I specify the Mexican immigrants because ALL of us get a bad rep because of them from generallizing idiots.Kelly Antilles wrote:Political Correctness - I fucking hate it!
Yes, I'll probably get bashed for this one but...
Lazy Mexicans who come here, DON'T learn the fucking language and expect to be treated like everyone else.
*groan* I'd prefer that some kids not be taught the "morals" they have. Jingoistic right-wing fundies and PC, cant-handle-the-truth liberals already seperate in High School, so far as I can tell.Kelly Antilles wrote:Pardon me, MOST kids are idiots. I did not mean to offend any of the very intelligent young people on this board. It's just that young people these days are not taught morals or right from wrong anymore.data_link wrote:Cmon Kelly, that's a sterotype and you know it. It would be just as accuracte to say that adults are idiots.Kelly Antilles wrote:Kids are idiots.
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Any political "ultra"-- Left or Right wing, are an embarassment to the species. This includes religious "ultras" of left or right wing ideologies. Unfortunately, this encompasses a large number of people.
Any poser of an ethnic group who tries to act like the tough-guy images of other ethnic groups (white kids acting like black "homies", etc). Be who you are.
Racists. Evil. Once I brought my Israeli girlfriend to the States for a visit. She's ethnically Persian, fairly dark and in California (Santa Cruz) some folks thought she was Mexican. A number of people actually gave us shit for being mixed-race, and that freaked me out.
Bullies of any sort, of any age, of any gender. Whether it is physical, mental, emotional, I can't stand bullying.
People who insist on wallowing in ignorance, despair, or a sense of failure. I'm more just disgusted with these people than truly prejudiced against them.
Those are fairly rational prejudices, if you can see it that way. Here's my irrational one:
South Koreans.
Not Asians in general. I dig Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, etc. But every single person I have met from South Korea specifically has been a flaming asshole. Arrogant, selfish, lazy, backstabbing and corrupt. From the bullying braggart Sergeant Byun in Fort Carson, to the lazy, incompetent whiner Private Baeck, to Suga the bride that betrayed her blind American husband after securing visas and Social Security for her whole refuse-to-learn-English family... it's been luck of the draw that I met nasty South Koreans. I still have an open mind about North Koreans, since I've never met any of them. I hope I meet some nice Koreans since this makes me uncomfortable.
Whew!
And I happen to like the accent of Asian women speaking English. I think it's sweet, and when I speak German or Hebrew with my American accent, people tell me it's "cute".
Any poser of an ethnic group who tries to act like the tough-guy images of other ethnic groups (white kids acting like black "homies", etc). Be who you are.
Racists. Evil. Once I brought my Israeli girlfriend to the States for a visit. She's ethnically Persian, fairly dark and in California (Santa Cruz) some folks thought she was Mexican. A number of people actually gave us shit for being mixed-race, and that freaked me out.
Bullies of any sort, of any age, of any gender. Whether it is physical, mental, emotional, I can't stand bullying.
People who insist on wallowing in ignorance, despair, or a sense of failure. I'm more just disgusted with these people than truly prejudiced against them.
Those are fairly rational prejudices, if you can see it that way. Here's my irrational one:
South Koreans.
Not Asians in general. I dig Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, etc. But every single person I have met from South Korea specifically has been a flaming asshole. Arrogant, selfish, lazy, backstabbing and corrupt. From the bullying braggart Sergeant Byun in Fort Carson, to the lazy, incompetent whiner Private Baeck, to Suga the bride that betrayed her blind American husband after securing visas and Social Security for her whole refuse-to-learn-English family... it's been luck of the draw that I met nasty South Koreans. I still have an open mind about North Koreans, since I've never met any of them. I hope I meet some nice Koreans since this makes me uncomfortable.
Whew!
And I happen to like the accent of Asian women speaking English. I think it's sweet, and when I speak German or Hebrew with my American accent, people tell me it's "cute".
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
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Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
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I'm prejudiced against arrogant fanboy geeks who are so enthralled by Japanese "culture" (i.e. anything/everything anime-related) that they have to immerse themselves in it in the worst possible fashion.
By arrogant I mean the "what i like is superior to what you like" attitude.
I'm also prejudiced against Japan, or at least the urban regions.
By arrogant I mean the "what i like is superior to what you like" attitude.
I'm also prejudiced against Japan, or at least the urban regions.
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Back to the fanboy thing (sort of) I'm prejudiced against people who take SCA/Ren-Fair shit so fucking seriously that they adopt fucking stupid-sounding faux Brit accents and names like, "Lady Gwyneth". Something else I'm prejudiced against that ties into this is the whole concept of 'All Benefit/No Responsibility", where a girl (usually of the previous group but more and more often in the mainstream) will hook up with one or more guys who dote on her, serve her like a queen, kiss her ass nonstop in the most fucking pathetic manner imaginable and get in return nothing more than the "privilege" of continuing in this form of disgusting self-abasement.
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People that use their knowledge as a means to try and prove themselves somehow better than the rest of the human race, whether they be fundamentalists, trolls or otherwise. No human is "better" than any other.
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Never did get around to that against which I am prejudiced, so here goes:
-- Small white "yip" dogs (unfortunately my wife has one)
-- People devoid of military knowledge or experience who enjoy spouting
off their mouths about how much military knowledge and expertise they have
-- Rap music
-- Country music (not to be confused with Bluegrass, which I do like)
-- RUB's (rich urban bikers) -- Yuppie biker wannabes that pull their sparkly-clean and airbrushed Harley Davidsons out of the garage once in a blue moon so they get dress in expensive leathers, clip on their fake ponytails, don their "shell" helmets, and ride for a few miles before puting their bike back in their garage and transforming back into yuppies.
I'm sure there are more, but those are probably the biggest...
-- Small white "yip" dogs (unfortunately my wife has one)
-- People devoid of military knowledge or experience who enjoy spouting
off their mouths about how much military knowledge and expertise they have
-- Rap music
-- Country music (not to be confused with Bluegrass, which I do like)
-- RUB's (rich urban bikers) -- Yuppie biker wannabes that pull their sparkly-clean and airbrushed Harley Davidsons out of the garage once in a blue moon so they get dress in expensive leathers, clip on their fake ponytails, don their "shell" helmets, and ride for a few miles before puting their bike back in their garage and transforming back into yuppies.
I'm sure there are more, but those are probably the biggest...
Anyone who puts Religion ahead of logic and reason or even tries to put it at the same level.
People who bash or dislike Anime for ridiculous irrational reasons
People who think artwork should be censored (Im not an artist, I just fucking hate censorship like that)
"Political Correctness"
People who file lawsuits and go to court for the stupidest, most insignificant things.
Nationalists, and anyone who takes the "racial" skin colored boundries made up by society seriously. Examples: many "anti-racist" groups, black pride activists, white pride activists, and anyone else who thinks skin color constitutes an actual "race" of people. I hate that philosophy because it just segregates humanity which in all actuality is the only true race of people on this planet worth caring for.
People who bash or dislike Anime for ridiculous irrational reasons
People who think artwork should be censored (Im not an artist, I just fucking hate censorship like that)
"Political Correctness"
People who file lawsuits and go to court for the stupidest, most insignificant things.
Nationalists, and anyone who takes the "racial" skin colored boundries made up by society seriously. Examples: many "anti-racist" groups, black pride activists, white pride activists, and anyone else who thinks skin color constitutes an actual "race" of people. I hate that philosophy because it just segregates humanity which in all actuality is the only true race of people on this planet worth caring for.
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Coyote,
You need to meet my wife's family. Mind you, I can understand where you are coming from. I've had moronic Koreans come up to my wife and son and blurt out, "Foreign baby!" Funny how they don't do that when I'm there.
So I don't like racists and people who can't drive properly. Dammit! Is it so hard to use the fucking signal lights and shoulder check!??!!
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You need to meet my wife's family. Mind you, I can understand where you are coming from. I've had moronic Koreans come up to my wife and son and blurt out, "Foreign baby!" Funny how they don't do that when I'm there.
So I don't like racists and people who can't drive properly. Dammit! Is it so hard to use the fucking signal lights and shoulder check!??!!
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Good call on yip dogs. Now, you all may feel free to chastise me for this, but I actually have an interesting (slightly on-topic) story to relate:jegs2 wrote:Never did get around to that against which I am prejudiced, so here goes:
-- Small white "yip" dogs (unfortunately my wife has one)
-- People devoid of military knowledge or experience who enjoy spouting
off their mouths about how much military knowledge and expertise they have
-- Rap music
-- Country music (not to be confused with Bluegrass, which I do like)
-- RUB's (rich urban bikers) -- Yuppie biker wannabes that pull their sparkly-clean and airbrushed Harley Davidsons out of the garage once in a blue moon so they get dress in expensive leathers, clip on their fake ponytails, don their "shell" helmets, and ride for a few miles before puting their bike back in their garage and transforming back into yuppies.
I'm sure there are more, but those are probably the biggest...
About 10 years ago I had a bad, bad cold and only about $1.50 to my name. I was living in a spare house owned by my parents (they weren't rich; trust me, "fixer-upper" didn't come close to describing it) and had brought home a pack of Ball-Park franks, because that was the only thing available food-wise. Well, I managed to cook up a couple of those and was eating one sans bun while walking down the sidewalk on my way [i[back[/i] to the convenience store for a soda. (I was completely out of it with the cold.)
As I'm walking along this fenced in yard, I sneeze (which produces a distinctly unpleasant sensation in my sinus cavity) and this tiny little 60-decibel rat comes racing at me out of a side yard, hits the fence at 60mph, and bounces onto its back, rolls over -- and it's barking hella loud the whole time.
Now this irritates me somethin' fierce, so's I place a finger upside my nostril, inhale deeply, and launch what is known in academic circles as a "snot-rocket." This produced two simultaneous but very distinct sensations: "Wow, that was a really hefty snot-rocket!" and "Hey! My sinuses are kinda burning!"
As I'm processing these sensations, I see something hit the tiny barking thing amidships and bounce into the grass. What I see before me in the grass is a substantial chunk of mucus-endowed Ball-Park frank, not unlike the remains of same in my left hand.
It does get worse, I warn you now.
The dog at this point trails off in its barking. Sniffs the chunk of "meat" that has just exited my nose. And eats it. You were warned.
This is why I will always hate yip-dogs and will never again buy Ball-Park franks with a straight face.