Did anyone else slightly overestimate Jango Fett?

wolveraptor · Post by **wolveraptor** » 2005-02-19 11:35pm

the way boba fett is portrayed in EU, you'd think he'd have, i dunno, rigged the barge to explode beforehand. the guy thinks ahead. and he always knows.

if the movies were more consistent with the EU, and if Jango was anything like Fett, he'd have had some miniature proton torpedo launcher or something to take out Jedi. some planning, for god sakes.

Macross · Post by **Macross** » 2005-02-20 12:20am

unbeataBULL wrote:the way boba fett is portrayed in EU, you'd think he'd have, i dunno, rigged the barge to explode beforehand. the guy thinks ahead. and he always knows.

if the movies were more consistent with the EU, and if Jango was anything like Fett, he'd have had some miniature proton torpedo launcher or something to take out Jedi. some planning, for god sakes.

Why would he bring a mini-proton launcher to what was essentially an execution? He had no reason to believe that a hundred or so Jedi were going to show up when they did.

I believe that Jango was portrayed perfectly for the movie. His fight with Obi-Wan on Kamino and the asteroids were sufficent to show him to be an effective and competent against your average Jedi.

If he hadnt been cut down as quickly by Mace Windu, people would be complaining that Mace Windu wasnt strong or "bad-ass" enough.

wolveraptor · Post by **wolveraptor** » 2005-02-20 09:34pm

Why would he bring a mini-proton launcher to what was essentially an execution? He had no reason to believe that a hundred or so Jedi were going to show up when they did.

that's exactly the kind of thing Boba Fett wouldn't have said. he'd have said something along the lines of, "you never know with these Jedi."

surely their reputation as formidable opponents had been ingrained by now in galactic culture? besides, it was known that if a few jedi came to persecute you, they had the whole academy behind them.

If he hadnt been cut down as quickly by Mace Windu, people would be complaining that Mace Windu wasnt strong or "bad-ass" enough.

not necessarily. it could just enforce the fact that the Fetts are no average bounty hunter.

of course, then his duel with Obi-Wan should've gone much differently, which would mess up the whole story-line.

Lone_Prodigy · Post by **Lone_Prodigy** » 2005-02-21 01:16am

unbeataBULL wrote:
Why would he bring a mini-proton launcher to what was essentially an execution? He had no reason to believe that a hundred or so Jedi were going to show up when they did.
that's exactly the kind of thing Boba Fett wouldn't have said. he'd have said something along the lines of, "you never know with these Jedi."

surely their reputation as formidable opponents had been ingrained by now in galactic culture? besides, it was known that if a few jedi came to persecute you, they had the whole academy behind them.

Well, it is Jango we are talking about, and why would he even suspect Jedi could be there? After all, they were in the middle of a gargantuan military base and factory, and had thousands of droids all around. What could go wrong?

unbeataBULL wrote:
If he hadnt been cut down as quickly by Mace Windu, people would be complaining that Mace Windu wasnt strong or "bad-ass" enough.
not necessarily. it could just enforce the fact that the Fetts are no average bounty hunter.

of course, then his duel with Obi-Wan should've gone much differently, which would mess up the whole story-line.

If the Reek hadn't ruined Jango's jet pack, he would've just flown away and used his pack's rocket to blow Mace into chewy tender bits.

Sadly, as both Fetts violently found out, Lady Luck is a vindictive bitch once you lose her favor....

wolveraptor · Post by **wolveraptor** » 2005-02-21 01:50pm

Well, it is Jango we are talking about, and why would he even suspect Jedi could be there? After all, they were in the middle of a gargantuan military base and factory, and had thousands of droids all around. What could go wrong?

i'm not saying that he'd suspect more Jedi to be there. i'm saying that he'd suspect that somehow, someway, the jedi would escape their bonds and mess up the execution. after all, he doesn't really understand the force (all the more reason for him to fear it and take preparations).

If the Reek hadn't ruined Jango's jet pack, he would've just flown away and used his pack's rocket to blow Mace into chewy tender bits. Sadly, as both Fetts violently found out, Lady Luck is a vindictive bitch once you lose her favor....

that's what i'm complaining about. they made it seem like the Fetts, the supposed "greatest bounty hunters" can just be taken out so arbitrarily. it isn't a befitting downfall. it'd be like in the middle of a duel, Luke just randomly gets cut down, without a climactic finish. that's probably how it'd happen in real life, but damnit that's why i go to movies

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2005-02-21 06:54pm

unbeataBULL wrote:
that's what i'm complaining about. they made it seem like the Fetts, the supposed "greatest bounty hunters" can just be taken out so arbitrarily. it isn't a befitting downfall. it'd be like in the middle of a duel, Luke just randomly gets cut down, without a climactic finish. that's probably how it'd happen in real life, but damnit that's why i go to movies

You consider the two Fetts being taken down by two of the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy to be arbitrarily?

You and Lone_Prodigy need to take a step back and think about who you're talking about here. Luke Skywalker and Mace Windu are not your average joe.

There's a reason Nut Gunray's advisor was convinced that they weren't going to survive against just two Jedi Knights unboard their flagship.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-02-21 06:56pm

Actually, Han took down Boba-- fluke hit on the back of his jetpack with a vibro-pike. Though one could argue that Luke's knocking Boba over with the blast from deflecting the sail-barge cannon stunned Boba somewhat...

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2005-02-21 07:07pm

Elheru Aran wrote:Actually, Han took down Boba-- fluke hit on the back of his jetpack with a vibro-pike. Though one could argue that Luke's knocking Boba over with the blast from deflecting the sail-barge cannon stunned Boba somewhat...

Oh shit.. lol yeah that's right. What the hell am I smoking?

wolveraptor · Post by **wolveraptor** » 2005-02-21 07:43pm

the fact that the actual killing was done by an incredibly powerful jedi isn't the problem: the problem is that he died because of a faulty Jet pack...no extended duel, no nothing. he didn't even leap backwards in an attempt to save himself. he didn't eve touch mace, nor did he retreat as fast as he should have when he saw mace just deflecting the blaster bolts.

and boba was even worse: he was knocked into a sarlaac pit by a blind han solo. wtf?!?

IronJackal · Post by **IronJackal** » 2005-03-03 12:41am

but Boba isn't dead...he survived and is still working unless I missed something.

FTeik · Post by **FTeik** » 2005-03-03 03:26am

unbeataBULL wrote:the fact that the actual killing was done by an incredibly powerful jedi isn't the problem: the problem is that he died because of a faulty Jet pack...no extended duel, no nothing. he didn't even leap backwards in an attempt to save himself. he didn't eve touch mace, nor did he retreat as fast as he should have when he saw mace just deflecting the blaster bolts.

and boba was even worse: he was knocked into a sarlaac pit by a blind han solo. wtf?!?

Considering, that Jango had a Reek running over him it is a miracle, that he was still semi-conscious at all when Windu charged at him.

Lone_Prodigy · Post by **Lone_Prodigy** » 2005-03-03 10:56am

Besides, he almost certainly knew of the infamous Jedi running speed, so he decided to stand his ground and try to take Windu out instead of running away just to get slashed in half.

Kartr_Kana · Post by **Kartr_Kana** » 2005-03-03 05:26pm

Acording to mulitiple novels Boba's Mandolorian armor allowed him to survive the sarlac until he could blow his way out. Infact "currently" he is rebuilding the Mandolorians.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2005-03-03 05:34pm

Kartr_Kana wrote:Acording to mulitiple novels Boba's Mandolorian armor allowed him to survive the sarlac until he could blow his way out. Infact "currently" he is rebuilding the Mandolorians.

Um...why does Boba Fett give a damn about these "Mamdolorians"? He's a clone of Jango Fett and a bounty hunter.

Kartr_Kana · Post by **Kartr_Kana** » 2005-03-03 05:41pm

jango was one of the last mandalorians, Boba in the old EU went to an old Mandalorian planet that still had a population and spent the rest of his youth there before going back out into the galaxy as the last Mandalorians. Both in blood but more importantly in training. The mandaolrians were a group of humans who trained from youth to be the best warriors around. They gloried in conflict and nothing was more important then defeating your enemy. The mandalorians are probaly the one coolest thing about ST EU. Especially Boba