Voyager vs Enterprise

[Exonerate]

Just wondering, does anybody remember if the Enterprise-D fought the Borg before? I recall it happening before, but don't remember the outcome.

[SirNitram]

They mostly played 'Evade The Borg' and used terrain(Planets, suns, solar flares) to their advantage. They also demonstrated the ability to dodge Borg shots. This is tactical ability that leaves the Voyager wallowing.

Also, the Galaxy from AtGT r0x0r my s0x0r.

[Uraniun235]

Just wondering, does anybody remember if the Enterprise-D fought the Borg before? I recall it happening before, but don't remember the outcome.

"Q Who?" - First two (three?) phaser shots carve out chunks of the Borg cube. Later, photon torpedoes had no effect. The Enterprise was on the verge of being carved up by the Borg when Q sent the E-D back where it started.

"Best of Both Worlds" - Rapid phaser modulation allows E-D to destroy a tractor beam. After that, repeated phaser/photon torpedo strikes, as well as a blast of energy from the deflector dish, do nothing to the Borg vessel.

"Descent" - Weapons do nothing; the E-D is forced to use a star to destroy the Borg cube.

However, the frontal salvos displayed in Best of Both Worlds, as well as The Survivors, demonstrate IMO superior firepower to that wielded by an Intrepid-class, and probably Voyager as well. Voyager may have had enhancements made over the years, but those were probably meant to specifically counter Borg adaptation technology.

[Moonshadow]

yeah but could a GCS take the kind of damage Voyager took in "Year of Hell" without its Warp Core acting like an M-80?

[Peregrin Toker]

yeah but could a GCS take the kind of damage Voyager took in "Year of Hell" without its Warp Core acting like an M-80?

Good question. I attribute this to the Voyager's crew rather than its shielding, as the Enterprise-D's engineers appear to be utterly incompetent..... However, the Voyager is a mere Intrepid-class scout ship, while the Enterprise-D is a Galaxy-class battleship, and the Starfleet's warship doesn't seem to have progressed THAT much in general firepower and combat ability from TNG to Voyager. (discounting the prototype Prometheus-class battlecruiser)

[Spanky The Dolphin]

Arn't you forgetting?

Go Go Batmoblie Armor!

Does the E-D have that?

Nah, I'd say it's more like the armour from Viper.

[Eleas]

This was a little satire piece I wrote for another website some years ago, in reaction to Voyager's first season —and it seems apropos to revive it for this little discussion:

Hey Patrick, I see no one commented on this one. I liked it; IMHO it was well written, funny and (gasp!) true to character.

Just so you know.

[Peregrin Toker]

Hey Patrick, I see no one commented on this one. I liked it; IMHO it was well written, funny and (gasp!) true to character.

Just so you know.

Perhaps even better written than some Voyager episodes!!

[Ghost Rider]

Not to insult Patrick but that's not hard to do, given what he has to go against.

Buit nonetheless bravo.

[Eleas]

Hey Patrick, I see no one commented on this one. I liked it; IMHO it was well written, funny and (gasp!) true to character.

Just so you know.

Perhaps even better written than some Voyager episodes!!

Bite your tongue!

[guyver]

Trek vs. trek


hard call

I say Enterprise wins

[Uraniun235]

yeah but could a GCS take the kind of damage Voyager took in "Year of Hell" without its Warp Core acting like an M-80?

Inconsequential. The Enterprise will fuck Voyager up before Enterprise's shields even go down.