natural resources

[ali-sama]

what are natural resources reffered to in the sw society,
As the level of technology rises we have seen this definiton change in our own society/culture.

first it was plants and animals then it shifted to metals and ores after all land can be manipulated to grow stuff it normally cannot be. southenr california is a dessert ye tit has lots of rich farmland.

with the advance of tech as seen in the sw timeframe, One can eaisly imagine someone importing stuff ot make any land hospitable enough for famring and grazign and of basic sutinacne.

A world rich in resources woudl probbaly have the exotic metals in minirals needed in their technology not simple stuff such as plants and animals.

[SirNitram]

Well, a BDZ destroys all natural resources by some descriptions, and a BDZ is also describd thusly:

Each /Acclamator/ coordinates its forces strategically. Orbital bombardment
with high-yioeld proton torpedoes and surgical turbolaser strikes hit enemy
fortifications when capture is not a priority. Armies entrenched deeply
underground may be subject to a last-resort "Base Delat Zero" fleet
bombardment. Such operation reduce the upper crust of a planet to molten
slage-a spectacle unseen in the Republic until the Clone Wars.

-pg22-23, AOTC ICS

So we can reasonably assume that once you've melted the ice caps, destroyed the arable land, slaughtered every living thing, made the planet unlivable, and(According to the Dankyo example) blown the atmosphere off... You have no reasonable resources left in the SW universe's eyes.

[ali-sama]

Well, a BDZ destroys all natural resources by some descriptions, and a BDZ is also describd thusly:

Each /Acclamator/ coordinates its forces strategically. Orbital bombardment
with high-yioeld proton torpedoes and surgical turbolaser strikes hit enemy
fortifications when capture is not a priority. Armies entrenched deeply
underground may be subject to a last-resort "Base Delat Zero" fleet
bombardment. Such operation reduce the upper crust of a planet to molten
slage-a spectacle unseen in the Republic until the Clone Wars.

-pg22-23, AOTC ICS

So we can reasonably assume that once you've melted the ice caps, destroyed the arable land, slaughtered every living thing, made the planet unlivable, and(According to the Dankyo example) blown the atmosphere off... You have no reasonable resources left in the SW universe's eyes.

you can easily repalce all of that. besides not every planet even has ice caps. look at tatooine etc. all of the planet is one climate.

[Lord Revan]

Well biosphere can considered a natural resource as I have not seen or heard of SW human who could eat rocks and/or metals.

[SirNitram]

you can easily repalce all of that. besides not every planet even has ice caps. look at tatooine etc. all of the planet is one climate.

...So? These are resources none the less. The fact they can be 'replaced' means little; I can refill a glass of water, but water is still a resource in our society.

You simply show that the scale is staggeringly vast enough to allow for the loss of one planet to be minor.

[ali-sama]

you can easily repalce all of that. besides not every planet even has ice caps. look at tatooine etc. all of the planet is one climate.

...So? These are resources none the less. The fact they can be 'replaced' means little; I can refill a glass of water, but water is still a resource in our society.

You simply show that the scale is staggeringly vast enough to allow for the loss of one planet to be minor.

btw unless the elemetns are transmutated their still there. water rock etc,

[Lord Revan]

Well Telos was not subject to BDZ operation (just very heavy bombarment) during the KOTOR era Sith war and needed a very complex method of restoration. It said it's easier to "terrafrom" a new planet then to restore a BDZed planet.

[SirNitram]

btw unless the elemetns are transmutated their still there. water rock etc,

......

Wow. You're staggeringly dumb. Water is not an element. Oxygen and hydrogen are elements, and there's enough clouds of those to harvest as is.

Anything they can use(Which is apparently everything up to neutron-star material and the space-time distortions of a black hole) is going to technically be a resource. Though if you want to deal with a specific planet, the biosphere will be it's biggest value. Simply because all other things on it can be found in asteroid belts, most likely, without the energy cost of lifting off.

[ali-sama]

btw unless the elemetns are transmutated their still there. water rock etc,

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Wow. You're staggeringly dumb. Water is not an element. Oxygen and hydrogen are elements, and there's enough clouds of those to harvest as is.

Anything they can use(Which is apparently everything up to neutron-star material and the space-time distortions of a black hole) is going to technically be a resource. Though if you want to deal with a specific planet, the biosphere will be it's biggest value. Simply because all other things on it can be found in asteroid belts, most likely, without the energy cost of lifting off.

i said unless the elements are transmutated. meanign they are change.d
never said water was an element.
water woudl change form though. become varoe probbaly then plasma. unless it;s chemical bonds are broken it woudl still be water just in another form.

[SirNitram]

btw unless the elemetns are transmutated their still there. water rock etc,

i said unless the elements are transmutated. meanign they are change.d
never said water was an element.

Wow, it's easy to catch you in your own BS.

water woudl change form though. become varoe probbaly then plasma. unless it;s chemical bonds are broken it woudl still be water just in another form.

I'm sorry, what was that? You need to work on your English, that made no sense.

It's a known that electrical energy will seperate water into oxygen and hydrogen, and I'm fairly sure enough thermal will do the same. I could be wrong.

[Lord Revan]

i said unless the elements are transmutated. meanign they are change.d
never said water was an element.
water woudl change form though. become varoe probbaly then plasma. unless it;s chemical bonds are broken it woudl still be water just in another form.

if water turns into plasma it won't be water any more (it hydrogen/oxygen plasma mix).

[Spanky The Dolphin]

you can easily repalce all of that.

I don't think you can restore a planet whose entire surface area of the upper crust has been reduced to molten rock to habitable conditions.

Also, teraforming planets is considered a gross waste of money and time for Star Wars.

EDIT: Whoa, how'd this thread get so big so fast? I could swear the post I quoted was the most recent one...

[ali-sama]

btw unless the elemetns are transmutated their still there. water rock etc,

i said unless the elements are transmutated. meanign they are change.d
never said water was an element.

Wow, it's easy to catch you in your own BS.

water woudl change form though. become varoe probbaly then plasma. unless it;s chemical bonds are broken it woudl still be water just in another form.

I'm sorry, what was that? You need to work on your English, that made no sense.

It's a known that electrical energy will seperate water into oxygen and hydrogen, and I'm fairly sure enough thermal will do the same. I could be wrong.

no i mistated it.
I have dyslexia and sometimes I write broken thoughts down. it is my fault i need to slow donw and think more at times when i write.

[ali-sama]

i said unless the elements are transmutated. meanign they are change.d
never said water was an element.
water woudl change form though. become varoe probbaly then plasma. unless it;s chemical bonds are broken it woudl still be water just in another form.

if water turns into plasma it won't be water any more (it hydrogen/oxygen plasma mix).

when it cools it wil turne back into normal matter meaning it can and will react and become water again. same process as how water is formed after a star system is formed etc

[Batman]

when it cools it wil turne back into normal matter meaning it can and will react and become water again. same process as how water is formed after a star system is formed etc

Over a timeframe of?

[Cykeisme]

As soon as the orbital bombardment stops, the temperature of the planet surface would start to drop again; I assume the hydrogen and oxygen ions would return to their uncharged state once the temperature drops below a certain point, but that temperature at that point would still provide enough energy to initiate combustion back into water.
So I think that water, even when turned to plasma of its elements, would turn back into water when cooled.. how quickly depends on how quickly the planet cools back down. I'm not sure, I may be wrong, since I don't have figures on the temperatures necessary for maintaining hydrogen and oxygen as plasma.

I doubt temperatures will reach anywhere near that required for transmutating helium. Is that even possible?
Never mind hydrogen, for obvious reasons.


Anyway, back to the original thread topic... natural resources probably include mining for metallic ores. Of course, in Star Wars, asteroids and inhospitable worlds are just about as accessible as habitable planets due to the ease of space travel, so I should think that metals are probably mined from those, instead of risking environmental damage to nice hospitable worlds.
As an added bonus to mining metal from asteroids instead of a planet, you don't need to add to your operating costs the amount of energy (fuel) it takes to accelerate your cargo (the mined material) to escape velocity. This may be significant if you're mining a very large amount of material.

I'm sure agriculture is an important industry in Star Wars (a lot of people means a lot of food is needed), with worlds whose economy revolve entirely around the production of huge amounts of food. While terraforming is probably possible, I should think it'll be much easier if the planet's clime was already suited to farming.
There's probably a lot of unique planetary products, too, regardless of the galaxy's tech level.

On a related note, is there anything in canon on what the "spice" from Kessel is? Failing that, anything from EU..

[Stark]

Y'know, if you BLOW THE ATMOSPHERE OFF then the water will, in fact, be gone.

Although, even after a BDZ, you'd think they could still mine minerals - not that it would be easy, or even worth it, but there would still be 'resources' there.