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Gil Hamilton wrote:Obviously they marched a thousand Clonetroopers into the hangar and told them to fire a volley at that trade federation ship. :lol:

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Obviously they antipolarized the magnetic quantumpulse from the tractorbeam
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I want to say something about a deflector dish, really I do. :lol:
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Icehawk wrote:
Dark Primus wrote:The speed the beam is traveling is not very fast, can it be a short range weapon?
It only looks that way because of the .gif file format which isnt playing the clip at its proper speed.

IMO its a SPHA-T firing from the cargo area.
That's correct, it's playing at half speed or else the loop gives people headaches :P .
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What I find more interesting is that all those ships are so freaking close together and despite the large number of them, every capital ship there, Seperatist and Republic alike, is lined up on about the same axis. They really must work these things out ahead of time.

It seems to me they've orientated themselves based upon where the planet is.
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The density changes, look at the background in some shots, not all ships are dueling. But it's pretty much implied the Republic is advancing on the Invisible Hand, and the battle possibly has 2 fronts, the Coruscant defense fleet side and addition reinforcements coming to aid.
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Saying that it can't be an SPHA-T because they can't depress that far assumes they leave it oriented the same as the ship itself. Seems to me they could easily orient it however they like, given their control over local forces which would otherwise hinder it.
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Since the SPHA-T has legs it could easily tilt its gun down like that by simply lowering its front legs and pushing up on its back legs.
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Connor MacLeod wrote:Does someone got these clips?
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Firefox wrote:
Connor MacLeod wrote:Does someone got these clips?
YEah, did you try following that link? It says transfer unavailable. At least for me.
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Hum, it had worked earlier. Sorry about that.
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Yousendit links are only good for 25 downloads.

I'm in the process of re-uploading the file. I'll post a link when it's ready.

EDIT: Here be the link.
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^^^Awesome clip! One thing I noticed: towards the end when we see a wide view of the fleet with many weapons flying towards and away from the camera I noticed the bolts which have traditionally taken ~3 frames to travel any distance took 6-7+ frames to travel to the more distant ships. It seemed like the weapon bolts had a fixed speed and took longer to reach more distant objects.

Just wondered if any one else noticed.
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observer_20000 wrote:Yousendit links are only good for 25 downloads.

I'm in the process of re-uploading the file. I'll post a link when it's ready.

EDIT: Here be the link.

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Did anyone notice that at the start of the clip when the fighters make their pass the Star destroyer is firing its heavy turbolasers turrets at point blank range. While doing almost zip as far as damage is concerned. :cry:


I guess we can right it off as power levels or something. Maybe the ship is damaged or recharging weapons from a previous engagement.


Also the two ships are oriented differently, the Star Destroyer has its dorsal surface oriented toward the CIS ships beam; like it was in the process of a roll. :D
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Where was this in the clip? A couple of seconds in, I see a Venator firing its heavy guns at a ship, which promptly explodes (the fireball the fighters fly through).

If I'm mistaken, are you sure the enemy ship couldn't have had its shields up?
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Spartan wrote:Did anyone notice that at the start of the clip when the fighters make their pass the Star destroyer is firing its heavy turbolasers turrets at point blank range. While doing almost zip as far as damage is concerned. :cry:


I guess we can right it off as power levels or something. Maybe the ship is damaged or recharging weapons from a previous engagement.
Eh? Where is this law that when a heavy weapon fires it must do damage? There is such a thing as shields. Not that I remember what you mean...
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Eh? Where is this law that when a heavy weapon fires it must do damage? There is such a thing as shields. Not that I remember what you mean...

Well since it occurs at the very begining of the clip I don't no how you could have missed it, I'd take another look if I were you. :P

Of course their are shields, but they were obviously penetrated since there was also a fireball and explosion right after. A pretty wimpy fireball at that, given that to small fighter craft fly right through it. Not very impressive.

You, notice I mentioned power-levels and recharging as possible reasons. I didn't mention shields as I considered it obvious that they would be as they are in the middle of a battle. :roll:
Where was this in the clip? A couple of seconds in, I see a Venator firing its heavy guns at a ship, which promptly explodes (the fireball the fighters fly through).

If I'm mistaken, are you sure the enemy ship couldn't have had its shields up?
That fireball did not encompass the entire vessel and did not even look very violent.

See above...of course the shields would be up. My point was that they didn't look that impressive firing. I'm concerned that the battle will not be as impressive as we've been hoping.
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Spartan wrote:Did anyone notice that at the start of the clip when the fighters make their pass the Star destroyer is firing its heavy turbolasers turrets at point blank range. While doing almost zip as far as damage is concerned. :cry:

You have to keep in mind this battle is taking place in within the upper atmosphere of a planet. Heavy weapons fire at too high a powerlevel will result in vicious releases of EMP on the electronics and other systems of the planet below. Also, because they are at very close range with eachother, firing at too high a powerlevel could cause them to damage themselves.
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From whence do you get this "huge fireball" assumption upon which you are relying, Spartan? Why must there be a "huge fireball"? Furthermore, with regards to shields- ANH- Tantive IVs shields were overcome by a turbolaser bolt, but it clearly didn't fully penetrate.

Massive explosions are not necessary for high-powered beam weapons, especially in space (and no, this battle, or at least, this part of the battle, does not take place in the upper atmosphere, canon observation > foolish backstage statements- that's way too high to be upper atmosphere)- and as for not being as "impressive" as we hope- erm, I prefer ships being reduced to elaborate wrecks than the ROTJ-we-don't-have-the-money-or-SFX-to-blow-up-our-models-properly-so-we'll-just-replace-them-with-an-explosion *deep breath* method.
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If the battle is as huge as we think it will be (please Dark Lords, let this be true) could easily be occuring in the upper atmosphere and in the space around the planet.
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If its not in the upper atmosphere than how is there smoke coming out of the damaged space craft? Or can smoke actually happen in Vacuum?
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Icehawk wrote:If its not in the upper atmosphere than how is there smoke coming out of the damaged space craft? Or can smoke actually happen in Vacuum?
No idea. In the post-notes about the spacebattle on hyperspace, the VFX guys let on that they *knew* that the battle was occuring above the upper atmosphere, because they speculated idly about Coruscant having some extra "layer" to do ... something technobabble.
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From whence do you get this "huge fireball" assumption upon which you are relying, Spartan? Why must there be a "huge fireball"? Furthermore, with regards to shields- ANH- Tantive IVs shields were overcome by a turbolaser bolt, but it clearly didn't fully penetrate.
Granted, but their no heavy turbolaser fired in ANH, and they weren't trying to destroy the Tantive IV either.

If we are talking teratons of energy being tossed around, then even if a fraction blows past the shields their should be huge amounts (hundreds of meters) of dura-steel being vaporized.

But like I said we see a fireball, so the HTL penetrated.

Actually now that I think about it; tossing around teratons of energy is a close quarter battle, would likly cause all kinds of friendly fire incidents.

Point conceded.
Massive explosions are not necessary for high-powered beam weapons, especially in space (and no, this battle, or at least, this part of the battle, does not take place in the upper atmosphere, canon observation
Well the ship should be pressurized right. If you breach the hull should their not be venting atmosphere, a vaporized hull, rapidly escaping the impact area...ie an explosion.
> foolish backstage statements- that's way too high to be upper atmosphere)- and as for not being as "impressive" as we hope- erm, I prefer ships being reduced to elaborate wrecks than the ROTJ-we-don't-have-the-money-or-SFX-to-blow-up-our-models-properly-so-we'll-just-replace-them-with-an-explosion *deep breath* method.
I have to agree on the coolness factor of the "Man O' War" blast the other guy to pieces at point blank range.
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