[ROTS] Why is the Emperor fat?

Crom · Post by **Crom** » 2005-03-15 05:50pm

I just watched the trailer and I noticed that the Emperor looks pretty fat. Why is that? It's not like the actor has put on any weight or anything like that.

Firefox · Post by **Firefox** » 2005-03-15 05:53pm

It looked like his robes more than anything.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2005-03-15 06:00pm

Crom wrote:I just watched the trailer and I noticed that the Emperor looks pretty fat. Why is that? It's not like the actor has put on any weight or anything like that.

Too many Krispy Kremes?

Crom · Post by **Crom** » 2005-03-15 06:25pm

Firefox wrote:It looked like his robes more than anything.

Well, I meant in the Emperor make-up he seriously looks distinctly heavier. I'm pretty confused about why he looks so drastically different. And it really doesn't seem like the robes to me. God, I'll have to try and find some screen caps.

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2005-03-15 06:49pm

Crom wrote:
Firefox wrote:It looked like his robes more than anything.
Well, I meant in the Emperor make-up he seriously looks distinctly heavier. I'm pretty confused about why he looks so drastically different. And it really doesn't seem like the robes to me. God, I'll have to try and find some screen caps.

It looked like he had his Sith robes on over his chancellor robes in that scene to me, which would explain why he looked a bit uh larger than usual. That is if you're thinking of the same scene I am ("Every single Jedi is now an enemy of the Republic").

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-03-16 06:14am

Crazy_Vasey wrote:
Crom wrote:
Firefox wrote:It looked like his robes more than anything.
Well, I meant in the Emperor make-up he seriously looks distinctly heavier. I'm pretty confused about why he looks so drastically different. And it really doesn't seem like the robes to me. God, I'll have to try and find some screen caps.
It looked like he had his Sith robes on over his chancellor robes in that scene to me, which would explain why he looked a bit uh larger than usual. That is if you're thinking of the same scene I am ("Every single Jedi is now an enemy of the Republic").

Yes he did, but the closing scene standing next to Vader, he looked normal ... granted you could only see his nose, but it was a normal RotJ nose damit!

Assassin X · Post by **Assassin X** » 2005-03-16 12:04pm

"You'll never know the power of the fat side."

Maybe he looked fat in one scene because he ate some bad mexican food the night before.

darthnidankendo · Post by **darthnidankendo** » 2005-03-16 12:05pm

maybe its a side effect of the dark side.

Manus Celer Dei · Post by **Manus Celer Dei** » 2005-03-16 12:13pm

What do you think he did with all those Jedi corpses?

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2005-03-16 12:23pm

Consuming souls can hardly be without cost...

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2005-03-16 12:48pm

Look, Ian McDiarmid filmed his scenes for ROTJ during 1982 and for ROTS 2003, that's more than twenty years apart. People change. On top of that, they didn't have any reference material on the make-up from ROTJ (according to an article over at the OS), so I don't think it's strange at all. He looks about the same, and that's good enough for me.

SCVN 2812 · Post by **SCVN 2812** » 2005-03-16 01:04pm

Mange the Swede wrote:Look, Ian McDiarmid filmed his scenes for ROTJ during 1982 and for ROTS 2003, that's more than twenty years apart. People change. On top of that, they didn't have any reference material on the make-up from ROTJ (according to an article over at the OS), so I don't think it's strange at all. He looks about the same, and that's good enough for me.

Maybe I'm just incredibly unobservant but it looks like in TPM and AOTC that he's still in excellent shape, Darth Sidious just favors baggy and layered clothing when not pretending to be a wise and benevolent elder statesman

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2005-03-16 01:18pm

SCVN 2812 wrote:
Mange the Swede wrote:Look, Ian McDiarmid filmed his scenes for ROTJ during 1982 and for ROTS 2003, that's more than twenty years apart. People change. On top of that, they didn't have any reference material on the make-up from ROTJ (according to an article over at the OS), so I don't think it's strange at all. He looks about the same, and that's good enough for me.
Maybe I'm just incredibly unobservant but it looks like in TPM and AOTC that he's still in excellent shape, Darth Sidious just favors baggy and layered clothing when not pretending to be a wise and benevolent elder statesman

Yes, precisely. Good point.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2005-03-16 01:32pm

Maybe he's hiding an evil Sith Yoda under his robes.

Oops, should that be a spoiler? j/k

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2005-03-16 05:29pm

I'm just curious as to how Palpatine's facial complexion turns bad when he becomes Sidious.

Crom · Post by **Crom** » 2005-03-16 06:06pm

I wonder if there was something wrong with my copy of the trailer. There is a scene in the trailer, after he rushes Mace Windu and the other Jedi, where it is a frontal shot of him hissing or something. His face looks much larger, he looks like they put him in some kind of fat suit. It isn't his clothing I'm looking at, it's his makeup.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2005-03-16 08:20pm

Manus Celer Dei wrote:What do you think he did with all those Jedi corpses?

Hopefully they were served with fava beans and a nice chianti.

Sharpshooter · Post by **Sharpshooter** » 2005-03-16 08:58pm

kheegan wrote:I'm just curious as to how Palpatine's facial complexion turns bad when he becomes Sidious.

Maybe some kind of barely-noicable illusion performed en masse when he's in public? What with the kind of stuff he can pull, I would't put it past him to make himself look to people as though he's a regular-looking guy while reall being some twisted, withering thing. With him likely being the source of the clouding that's keeping the Jedi from feeling what' going on, he could be doing it when face to face wth a pack of Jedi and they'd be none the wiser.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2005-03-21 05:36am

Well you know, more bodymass, more midichlorians.

PainRack · Post by **PainRack** » 2005-03-21 06:20am

His Divine Shadow wrote:Well you know, more bodymass, more midichlorians.

(shoves a lightsabre where the sun don't shine). Say anything more and it ignites.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2005-03-21 01:54pm

Sharpshooter wrote:
kheegan wrote:I'm just curious as to how Palpatine's facial complexion turns bad when he becomes Sidious.
Maybe some kind of barely-noicable illusion performed en masse when he's in public? What with the kind of stuff he can pull, I would't put it past him to make himself look to people as though he's a regular-looking guy while reall being some twisted, withering thing. With him likely being the source of the clouding that's keeping the Jedi from feeling what' going on, he could be doing it when face to face wth a pack of Jedi and they'd be none the wiser.

Could be he declares himself Emperor at the Senate Halloween (oops, I mean "Jedi Ghost Day") Party. During the ensuing chaos the rubber mask he was wearing (as part of his fat old ghoul costume) became molded to his skin, and he's been forced to wear it ever since!

Think "Phantom of the Opera" here. Also, the Jedi attending had really lame costumes (Obi-Wan wore a beard, Mace Windu put his robe over his head and declared himself "The Great Cornholio"), and Yoda is one of those fundamentalist Jedi who thinks that Hall-- Jedi Ghost Day, ahem, is a "Dark Side festival." Ironically, he was right on the money this time...

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-03-21 02:42pm

A thought. Palpatine was fairly prosperous, rather successful; a healthy eater, not really bothering to work out properly. This would apply to Sidious as well; but as he grew in the Force, and expanded his Dark Side control of the Empire, it wrung him out... the Force equivalent of liposuction...

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2005-03-21 03:18pm

Changing your facial appearance is a fairly simply Jedi power, Luke mentions using it in Spectre of the Past when Mara asks him why he's using a conventional disguise.

Cykeisme · Post by **Cykeisme** » 2005-03-21 03:41pm

Sharpshooter wrote:Maybe some kind of barely-noicable illusion performed en masse when he's in public? What with the kind of stuff he can pull, I would't put it past him to make himself look to people as though he's a regular-looking guy while reall being some twisted, withering thing. With him likely being the source of the clouding that's keeping the Jedi from feeling what' going on, he could be doing it when face to face wth a pack of Jedi and they'd be none the wiser.

Clouding people's perceptions of his appearance.. hmm.. that's a likely Lucas explanation, but what about electronic broadcasts and recordings of Palpatine? Wouldn't he show up as he really is there?

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-03-21 03:54pm

Cykeisme wrote:
Sharpshooter wrote:Maybe some kind of barely-noicable illusion performed en masse when he's in public? What with the kind of stuff he can pull, I would't put it past him to make himself look to people as though he's a regular-looking guy while reall being some twisted, withering thing. With him likely being the source of the clouding that's keeping the Jedi from feeling what' going on, he could be doing it when face to face wth a pack of Jedi and they'd be none the wiser.
Clouding people's perceptions of his appearance.. hmm.. that's a plausible Lucas explanation, but what about electronic broadcasts and recordings of Palpatine? Wouldn't he show up as he really is there?

it depends, as those recording could altered to show Palpatine "public" apperence as something as small as R2 unit can store plans to the DS1 and a load of other data, it's probaly possible to alter a Holotransmission on the fly. and also in the senate it possible that palpatine is controlling what the senators see in their monitors. (also in TPM and AOTC Darth Sidious doesn't look in ROTJ even in his private from (when talking to Darth Maul, Darth Tyrannus or the Trade Federation leaders).

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Re: [ROTS] Why is the Emperor fat?

he ate the Jedi, lol