Vejut wrote:SAMAS: May I speak sir?
It seems to me you are jumping to conclusions: WHY is the fact a step dipped proof that it's not an illusion? Sounds like just a fairly realistic one to me. And the fact that they "created" two people also tends to make me think it might be, as that would be far less power intesive (presumably).
Because, an illusion, by definition, is optical, and can not be felt. Ash reacted visibly to the sudden change of pressure under his foot.
Keep in mind that those "illusions" of Adult and Preteen Molly were battling Brock and Misty in Pokemon Battles. Meaning she was using "Illusionary" Pokemon. And these "Illusions" were beating the asses of Brock and Misty's Pokemon.
And let's not forget the "Grand Illusion" of Entei, who ran outside the present Sphere of Invluence of the Unoun's effect, brainwashed Delia Ketchum, carried her back to the house, and later engaged in the climatic battle against Charizard.
You're also forgetting that pokemon have limited power reserves (PP from the game). Further, even a machamp can't move a boulder unless it powers up with a strength attack (again, from the game) Of course, we don't know the SIZE of the boulder. It looked pretty big in my screen (about 1/8-1/4 [been awhile] the size of a one room family home...), but hardly a mountain. Trust me, I've seen mountains. They're loads bigger.
Check the last page. I already said that.
In addition, IIRC, the TV ep where ash fights the mankey (at the time hella powerful, IIRC), the mankey goes nuts on him, yet doesn't have the power to kill him. Surely if they were that powerful the mankey could do more damage than that?
You mean like the time after he evolved, and was chasing Ash? Primeape was shattering boulders in his path. Mind you, he didn't hit them. He
ran through them like they weren't there.
Also: do you have any proof as to pikachu's power?
Episode 21: Bye-Bye Butterfree -- Pikachu destroys a helicopter.
Episode 62: Clefairy Tales A group of Clefairy use Pikachu to power a rocket.
It should be noted that at this time, Team Rocket has started shock-proofing their tanks and mecha as a matter of course.
Episode 88 Pikachu's Thundershock overloads a machine used to mind-control every Pokemon in the city(It should be noted that Ash was using himself as bait(and a conduit) to get the controlled Pikachu to short the thing out).
Episode 144: A Shadow of a Drought -- Pikachu blows up the top half of a tank.
After this Pikachu kinda goes on an orgy of Team Rocket destruction, as almost every episode, he's destroying their vehicles and/or blasting TR over the horizon.
After all, we never see it eat much, which places a cap on power from Conservation of E (or else it's magic and Sir Nitram's arguement applies). Even given that, as far as I can recall (and granted, this is only based on the entire first season in america of the show [but again, been awhile], but not the recent stuff or the comic.), that pikachu didn't do that much damage with it's shock.
Actually, we rarely see Pikachu or most of the Pokemon eat at all.
Also...earlier in this post, you mentioned a diglet beating a AT-AT by undermining? By having the legs dug out from under it? Can they dig a 6ft deep hole the size of a snowspeeder in under 10 seconds? 'cause thats the rate of digging you say they have (that would be a little over ankle height, I believe, based on the understanding that AT-AT's are 40 ft tall, and one footpad covered a snowspeeder...)
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http://www.serebii.net/anime/epiguide/orange/116.shtml]Episode 116: The Underground Round-Up, where a team of Diglett not only dig the ground out from under scores of Electrode, but dig tunnels long enough to pop them out in an open field far outside the city limits.
Can you show eveidence they can take salvo's from the battleship Iowa? (IIRC, that's the power of AT-AT cannons, though someone who's read the vs. portion of this site, or Dr. Saxton's recently feel free to correct me). Hell, for that matter, can they do enough damage to penetrate something that needs a small nuclear weapon (aka proton torpedo) to penetrate? Cause if they can, I wonder about ash's sanity fighting these things....
If you want to go by direct energy transfer, Hyper Beam, Thunder, Aeroblast(Of course, that last one requires the use of a ringer(Lugia))
However, with hard targets, I prefer to use more indirect methods. Ice Beam and Blizzard to freeze vital components, Psychic Pokemon and Boarding attacks to directly attack the crew, or Surf/Whirlwind/Twister/Hydro Pump to sink the ships.
And look! It's not magical either!
