VT-16 wrote:Luke: Oh, my father didn´t fight in the wars, he was a navigator on a spice freighter.
Obi-Wan: That´t what your uncle told you.
If we combine this dialogue with the "hero-status" of Obi-Wan and Anakin in ROTS, you could make a case that Luke (being the eager Holonet-user that he was, according to ITW:OT) would have read about them over the years, and naturally asked his uncle if his father was the same as the war-hero on the old Holonet-broadcasts. By the time of ANH, his uncle´s version of the story would have been so intrenched, Luke just wouldn´t think otherwise.
"I've never heard of an Obi-Wan Kenobi."
As opposed to:
"Cool! This droid used to belong to Obi-Wan Kenobi. I wonder if he was ever in one of those Jedi fighters."
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Vympel wrote:I doubt Holo-vids about traitors to the Republic 20 years after the fact would be of much interest to Luke, if they still exist.
This assumes he even has access to the holonet... Which is uncertain.
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Also VT-16...they never mention the Holonet for Luke. They say Small computer. Also combine that we hear throughout the EU that the Holonet is restricted in use by the Empire, I somewhat doubt information about Obi-Wan or Anakin exists in any format available for someone of Luke's status at ANH.
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Tatooine is the arse end of the backside of nowhere. Not surprising that the holonet isn't a common thing around there. The thing about the bright centre of the universe can't have been that much of an exxaggeration.
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The Original Nex wrote:He does. In the ANH novelization Biggs warns him not to listen to the Imperial propaganda on official channels.
There is no reason to assume that "official channels" are the same thing as the HoloNet. Consider the following, from the Official Site's Databank:
For that reason, ships also carry a subspace radio, which provides much greater range but also requires a greater power allotment. A subspace radio typically has a real-time range of several light years. Sector governments often set up a network of subspace transceivers that help connect the scattered worlds, forming a sector-wide communications grid.
The most powerful and far-reaching communications medium is the HoloNet. A network of non-mass transcievers submerged into the time-bending dimension of hyperspace connects worlds in real-time across incredible distances. The HoloNet, maintained by the galactic government, is a horrendously expensive venture, and similarly the devices required to communicate on the HoloNet are costly to the average galactic citizen. In the time of the Empire, much of the public applications of the HoloNet were dismantled, making the galaxy-wide communications network a tool of the military and corporate interests.
The more interesting question would be, HOW much about his father did Luke learn, while being with the rebel-alliance. Aside from a scene in ANH, where one of the commanders comments to have met Anakin Skywalker once, there is nothing as far as i know.
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Obviously Kenobi's presence as 'Ben Kenobi' is known to the locals, as that crazy old hermit...
Now...
Skywalker AND Kenobi?
That would be more than Rommel. That's Romeo and Juliet levels of name association. And if the New Order does the usual sort of thing and offers rewards for information on Jedi, that would definitely raise some eyebrows. Given Jabba's presence, the bounty hunters and other scum that float around him, it's hard to believe that it didn't
Another factor to this is that how could Anakin not become famous on Tatooine, if he becomes a galaxy-wide hero? He's the local kid who became famous. Would Watto and the others who knew him keep their mouths shut on something like that?
Dunno. For a far-fetched hypothetical, possibly some sort of broad-based Jedi mind trickery on the part of Kenobi.
Damn this wretched Tatooine obsession that Lucas has.
Though it does explain how Luke Skywalker got himself flying a fighter so quick.
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Also, when confronted with "I am Luke Skywalker, Jedi Knight," shouldn't Jabba have shat a massive brick?
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Spanky The Dolphin wrote:That's because nobody cares or remembers, really.
It'd be like being called Rommel, and never having anyone comment on the other one.
And about 98% of my former school class in Germany had never heard of that guy. Other than me there was only one other guy. So your point does not really support your argument, does it.
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Do have any info on how common the names "Skywalker" and "Kenobi" are, since if they at all common in the general population there may be so "kenobi"s or "Skywalker"s that a single one middle of nowere might go unnoticed.
Also wouldn't the empire assume that Obi-Wan Kenobi would use a name that couldn't traced back to the Jedi general so Ben Kenobi would be close enough to the real name to way of hiding in full sight of the enemy same with Luke Skywalker since they both insignifigant people on a insignifigant planet (as far as anybody is conserned), Leia on other hand is member of Alderaan royal family and later a imperial senator so she would draw attention to herself by her status alone so she can't aford to use the name "Skywalker" as it would warrant questions that neither she or Bail Organa want to answer.
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Thanas wrote:And about 98% of my former school class in Germany had never heard of that guy. Other than me there was only one other guy. So your point does not really support your argument, does it.
Everyone over here knows who Rommel was. Besides, any particularly famous WWII figure would do. Montgomery for example. Alan Turing perhaps.
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NecronLord wrote:Everyone over here knows who Rommel was. Besides, any particularly famous WWII figure would do. Montgomery for example. Alan Turing perhaps.
Really? When I was in the US (assuming that's where you live) as an exchange student, most people didn't know squat about Rommel.
Nevertheless, I don't believe the majority of people living in some remote town would remember the name of a WWII general who wasn't very high profile, like Alexander or von Brauchitsch.
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NecronLord wrote:Everyone over here knows who Rommel was. Besides, any particularly famous WWII figure would do. Montgomery for example. Alan Turing perhaps.
Really? When I was in the US (assuming that's where you live) as an exchange student, most people didn't know squat about Rommel.
Nevertheless, I don't believe the majority of people living in some remote town would remember the name of a WWII general who wasn't very high profile, like Alexander or von Brauchitsch.
It's been nearly sixty years since the end of WWII. The last survivors of that generation are dying out by the year.
On the other hand, ANH barely takes place twenty years from ROTS and the end of the Clone Wars. People that close to the event would remember, especially bounty hunters and the like, many of whom might just have participated in the war.
CJvR wrote:Given the size of the SW universe there must be millions of Skywalkers/Kenobis running around. Also Tattoine isn't even part of the Republic during that era, although the Empire annexed it at some point possibly as an excuse to maintain the post war military.
There are only 10,000 jedi.
I think he meant just millions of people with the last names Kenobi or Skywalker, not millions of Jedi. Because Jedi don't breed, it would make sense that Kenobi has non-Jedi cousins, and there's other non-Jedi Kenobi roaming the galaxy left, right, up, and down. For all we know, Kenobi is the equivalent of Smith and Skywalker is Jones.
