Neitzsche

[Darth Wong]

I see. So it becomes obsolete due to the fact that it's already nothing more than mundane thoughts today, instead of groundbreaking philosophy it was on its start.

Sort of like quoting the writings of Euclid when laying down a building plan just to remind people that parallel lines never meet. It's reached the level of "duh" except among imbeciles.

[Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman]

I see. So it becomes obsolete due to the fact that it's already nothing more than mundane thoughts today, instead of groundbreaking philosophy it was on its start.

Sort of like quoting the writings of Euclid when laying down a building plan just to remind people that parallel lines never meet. It's reached the level of "duh" except among imbeciles.

Alright, I get it now. Thanks!

[Lord Zentei]

I see. So it becomes obsolete due to the fact that it's already nothing more than mundane thoughts today, instead of groundbreaking philosophy it was on its start.

Sort of like quoting the writings of Euclid when laying down a building plan just to remind people that parallel lines never meet. It's reached the level of "duh" except among imbeciles.

A pity Euclid gets more respect than Nietzsche and other historic philosophers that denied God as a source of morality nowadays.

[Darth Wong]

I see. So it becomes obsolete due to the fact that it's already nothing more than mundane thoughts today, instead of groundbreaking philosophy it was on its start.

Sort of like quoting the writings of Euclid when laying down a building plan just to remind people that parallel lines never meet. It's reached the level of "duh" except among imbeciles.

A pity Euclid gets more respect than Nietzsche and other historic philosophers that denied God as a source of morality nowadays.

Actually, no one ever mentions Euclid at all except as part of the term "Euclidian geometry".

[Slartibartfast]

A pity Euclid gets more respect than Nietzsche and other historic philosophers that denied God as a source of morality nowadays.

Actually, no one ever mentions Euclid at all except as part of the term "Euclidian geometry".

And Nietzche got his own sci-fi TV show, so all is good.

[The Yosemite Bear]

well after he met Wagner and wouldn't be Wagner's bitch, there began the war of "Neizche is a syuphaliptic, incestious whoremonger",' "Wagner is a Gay pervert". forever cementing the wierdest "truths" about the two individulas whom hitler would steal from the most.

[Lord Zentei]

well after he met Wagner and wouldn't be Wagner's bitch, there began the war of "Neizche is a syuphaliptic, incestious whoremonger",' "Wagner is a Gay pervert". forever cementing the wierdest "truths" about the two individulas whom hitler would steal from the most.

So? Makes no difference to the work of the guy. And by the way:

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/adnazium.html

[The Yosemite Bear]

not that he would even get them right, he would appropreate the two men posthaustumasly, like the corpsefuckers of today. The two men, who met as friends the philospher and the composer, and when the younger philopher didn't worship the ground the composer walked on, they started a private little war.

the war between their two egos and the slanderous and unknown accusations the slung at each other would become the fallacious grounds for the standards of deviance of the two after Hitler ursurped their image to add to his own. Did Neizche just love his sister in a forlorn way, or did he really transmit syphullus to her, did Wagner want respect he felt due from the younger Neizche or was he a pederast? This is like trying to get a definitive history on someone when all the evidence has been clouded by too much mudslinging.

[Imperial Overlord]

One of the reasons for the break between Nietzche's break with Wagner was Wagner's anti-semitism.

[Lord Zentei]

One of the reasons for the break between Nietzche's break with Wagner was Wagner's anti-semitism.

Fortunately, one does not have to like the man to appreciate his music.

[Imperial Overlord]

One of the reasons for the break between Nietzche's break with Wagner was Wagner's anti-semitism.

Fortunately, one does not have to like the man to appreciate his music.

A far reaching statement considering how many talented musicians are complete assholes.

[The Yosemite Bear]

very true

it's like chefs and bartenders with vile tempers

[Xisiqomelir]

so, any opinions on him? have you ignored him entirely, worshipped his statue, or hated the ground he walks on?

I adore Nietzsche. I also adore Weininger.

Politically I am a registered Libertarian.

My favourite book in the world is "The Fountainhead"

[Boyish-Tigerlilly]

My favourite book in the world is "The Fountainhead

Howard Roark would be proud.

[unigolyn]

My favourite book in the world is "The Fountainhead

Howard Roark would be proud.

I don't think Howard Roark would give a shit

[Enforcer Talen]

I started reading antirchrist. thats pretty interesting.

[unigolyn]

Granted not every one of us is Caesar nor Alexander, but aren't "secure", "independent", and "individualistic" required traits to live content without relying to "God"? To make us standing and walking tall, knowing we do the right thing, no matter how much the "peer pressure" and negative criticism we receive?

Your friendly neighborhood communist would disagree with the 'individualism' part.

I think attributing any sort of political or philosophic school of thought to atheism is a whale of a fallacy - correlation ain't causation, especially when atheists can author both the Communist Manifesto and the U.S. Declaration of Independence. Not to mention the Fountainhead.

I don't believe in God or the supernatural. That by itself doesn't say anything else about me. Certainly not whether I'm an individualist or a collectivist, secure or insecure (I'm sure a lot of theists are more secure about the idea of death than I am), independent or codependent. The formula to 'living content' varies so much from person to person that it's completely pointless to debate what it is. I personally try to avoid anyone who claims that he or she knows exactly what'll make me happy (unless it's an oral sex donation).

[Patrick Degan]

I've read Nietzche. Daring for his time, a couple of interesting points and a source for some good cracking quotes but nothing to organise a life or even an entire society around.

A pity Euclid gets more respect than Nietzsche and other historic philosophers that denied God as a source of morality nowadays.

Probably because Euclid created something more tangible.

[UltraViolence83]

Nietzsche has a very natural/humanistic philosophy. "Might Makes Right" is very relevant when you consider human behavioral patterns.

His books are good primers to help the shrugging off of the decadent ideals of Christianity and their implications in mass culture and society.

[Castor Troy]

so, any opinions on him? have you ignored him entirely, worshipped his statue, or hated the ground he walks on?

for myself, I like the quotes that are presented as his. I own an anthology of his works, but havent acutually read it yet. its hard to wrap my mind around.

He has some really good quotes, and his commentaries on the Greek tradegy play Oedipus Rex are well worth reading, in fact I agree with some of the things he says about that play.

[Bob the Gunslinger]

A pity Euclid gets more respect than Nietzsche and other historic philosophers that denied God as a source of morality nowadays.

Have you ever read Euclid's The Elements? The man freakin' earned it!


And considering that High-school students have a far harder time learning Euclid's ideas than Nietzche's shows which one has more depth...or at least took the most thinking.

[Enforcer Talen]

how many high school kids read neitzche?

[Bob the Gunslinger]

how many high school kids read neitzche?

All the pseudo-intellectuals and lots of the "deep" kids and some goths I knew.

[Castor Troy]

how many high school kids read neitzche?

We just were reading it in our Classic Civilizations class. It was part of reading Oedipus Rex. We also covered a little bit of Freud, as well.

[Enforcer Talen]

hm. the things I missed taking slacker classes.