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Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-16 07:27pm

Ever since the Al-Quaeda tape was released that specifically named Canada as one of the target nations, I've been reluctant to go downtown because Toronto is Canada's equivalent to New York: the capital city in all but name.

Does this make me a wimp?

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-11-16 07:28pm

No, it makes you a person who's decided to watch out for himself.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-16 07:30pm

I don't think so. The Al-Qaeda have instilled fear in the heart of many. I personally would be afraid to go to some Californian cities, New York, Boston, Chicago, DC...so many other places. It's not that you are afrais of them, personally, maybe, but that maybe you are afraid of impending terrorist attacks?

Anything is possible nowadays, so no, I don't think you are nay more a "wimp" than the rest of us.

Mike_6002 · Post by **Mike_6002** » 2002-11-16 07:31pm

Nah...............We have the right to be craping our pants, and the chimp is the only thing standing between us and random acts of terror

We're fucked six ways from Sunday

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-11-16 07:31pm

Not really, though I'd say your being overly paranoid. The odds of being killed or injured in a terrorist attack in North America are still very very low.

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2002-11-16 07:34pm

No, just human. People have a natural instinct to avoid danger. Natural selection has dictated so.

For myself, when I think about terrorism at home I tend to be a bit confused. They have threatened (and will without doubt carry out those threats) E.U cities with attacks.

I live in the capital of a secondary E.U country. However, due to that precise fact, our security is more laxed than in London or Paris, so a terrorist attempt would be easier here than in some other places..

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2002-11-16 07:34pm

Phoenix has been named as one of their targets, "What, me worry?"

Mike_6002 · Post by **Mike_6002** » 2002-11-16 07:34pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:Not really, though I'd say your being overly paranoid. The odds of being killed or injured in a terrorist attack in North America are still very very low.

Those are very bad odds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2002-11-16 07:35pm

I've been to both DC and NYC since the terrorist attacks. I visited the Pentagon and the Empire State Building. I'm fear for my safety more when driving through New Orleans.

data_link · Post by **data_link** » 2002-11-16 07:36pm

The odds are greater that you will die from assasination by fundie morons and/or darkstar than that you will die in a terrorist attack. That you can calmly walk outside at all when you have angered so many is proof that you are not a wimp.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-11-16 07:38pm

Does this make me a wimp?

In the Formal Defintion, YES it does or should we Conslete Stravo and the Millions of New Yorkers who did not move out after Osama said he was going to finish the job in New York?

However in the Pratical Sense NO it just means you parinod

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2002-11-16 07:40pm

Of course the odds are infinitesimally small, but the probability of getting shot by the sniper in Washington was inferior to that of getting hit by lightning, and still the whole city seemed frozen Everybody is used to the idea of dying in a car accident. They just won't give it a second thought.

When facing unnatural death, people leave logic behind

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-11-16 07:42pm

Darth Wong wrote:Ever since the Al-Quaeda tape was released that specifically named Canada as one of the target nations, I've been reluctant to go downtown because Toronto is Canada's equivalent to New York: the capital city in all but name.

Does this make me a wimp?

No. You are not a wimp. Remember that terrorists are trying to get you to be afraid of doing things like this, and they tailor their methods specifically to make people reluctant to do so. Frankly, they're pretty good at what they do. I was afraid of going to the Shark Tank (Compaq Center

) for a while, because it was so close to the airport. You have to remember, though, that the best way to fight against terrorism is to live your life the way you ordinarily would.

Mike_6002 · Post by **Mike_6002** » 2002-11-16 07:45pm

Don't be afraid, let just live our lives as we would everyday, and let the American's let those fundie fuckers meet Allah...............

I'm fuckin insane wh00t wh00t and darn proud

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2002-11-16 07:53pm

Wimp all the way, yes.

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2002-11-16 09:16pm

Well I don't know about being a wimp--maybe--sounds more like being overly cautious. Paranoid would be a better word

.

Seriously, if I was in your position and I didn't have a real need to delve into where would be the most probable target of the city I wouldn't go. I wouldn't change my noral routine neither.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2002-11-16 09:17pm

I live in NYC, I have seen the 9/11 attacks from my school (it's in downtown Brooklyn). And I'm not afraid to go.

I think that changing your routine to accommodate the terrorist warning is silly and foolish. It is like not driving because of the possibility of a car accident. There is noting you can do to top a terrorist act, but changing your life dratically just because of the possibility of an attack is too much in my opinion.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-11-16 10:21pm

I'm not afraid to go places, because I live in the middle of nowhere, and 9/11 was a rare event. You don't see a domsetic ist attack of that magnitude every day. Since 9/11, I've been to Washington D.C., and I've flown to Albequerque for the Balloon Fiesta, with no problems. But, you never know...

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2002-11-16 10:30pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:I've been to both DC and NYC since the terrorist attacks. I visited the Pentagon and the Empire State Building. I'm fear for my safety more when driving through New Orleans.

Havng also been thru New Orleans on many occassions that, is some scary shit. Especially, when you got a scanner that can pick up on the NOPD, horrofic stuff on their, constantly.

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2002-11-16 10:33pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:I'm not afraid to go places, because I live in the middle of nowhere, and 9/11 was a rare event. You don't see a domsetic ist attack of that magnitude every day. Since 9/11, I've been to Washington D.C., and I've flown to Albequerque for the Balloon Fiesta, with no problems. But, you never know...

It censors terror too, apparently.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2002-11-16 10:43pm

Statistically speaking, over the past 30 years, only a few thousand Americans (out of billions who have lived and died) have died from terrorist attacks. The odds of you dying from a terrorist attack are practically zero.

Then again, who could really blame you? You have a wife and kids you support, and I'm sure that you'd want to see your two boys grow up to see what girl they bring home for prom.

Taking chances isn't in the job description of a father and husband.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2002-11-16 10:52pm

I guess it's not irrational fear at all really. I mean I was in Bali at the start of the year, along with 5 other friends, and we spent every single night at the Sarri Club and Paddy's Bar while we were ther. When the bomb blast took place, it was chilling. All my Bali friends were like, guess we aren't going back there this summer!

But to a certain extent I disagree. I didn't want to go back to Kuta anyway, but there are so much more places in Bali that I did want to go back and see. I intend on doing so, once all this has sort of gone away, 'cause my parents are really worried.

On another note, there is this urban legend going around Melbourne at the moment that I wish to address;

Muslim man dropes wallet. WASP girl picks it up and catches up with him to hand it back. He is appreciative, and tells her to stay away from Chadstone (major shopping centre in SE suburbs famous for 24 retail during Christmas period) and Crown (the casino) during Christmas.

Now a lot of the younger girls at work are all worked up about it, and the rest of us either feed their hysteria, or talk sense into them depending on our mood. My point is, that I refuse to live in terror. If I really need or want to go somewhere I will.

Phil Skayhan · Post by **Phil Skayhan** » 2002-11-17 04:43am

Darth Wong wrote:Ever since the Al-Quaeda tape was released that specifically named Canada as one of the target nations, I've been reluctant to go downtown because Toronto is Canada's equivalent to New York: the capital city in all but name.

Does this make me a wimp?

Are you saying that if someone asked you to go to the Leaf's game this week (Philly or Boston; whichever team you want to see lose most) you would't go? Then yes.

If you mean taking your family in to the city, then absolutly not.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2002-11-17 05:57am

Darth Wong wrote:Ever since the Al-Quaeda tape was released that specifically named Canada as one of the target nations, I've been reluctant to go downtown because Toronto is Canada's equivalent to New York: the capital city in all but name.

Does this make me a wimp?

Slightly paranoid maybe, but not a wimp. I am of the opinion that one should never give the pricks the satisfaction of feeling like thay have done something to further their goals. Canadian first brigade got slaughterd at Deieppe in 43, never stopped the Canadians from going for a trip to Europe in June 1944.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-11-17 10:20am

Darth Wong wrote:Ever since the Al-Quaeda tape was released that specifically named Canada as one of the target nations, I've been reluctant to go downtown because Toronto is Canada's equivalent to New York: the capital city in all but name.

Alright. Now you've pissed me off...

OSAMA! I WANT YOUR NUKE!

Time to wipe that misbegotten shithole known as NYC off the face of the Map.....

I'm still pissed that the network talking heads kept circle jerking off on
the WTC, and cut away every 30 minutes for a 15 second shot of the
Pentagon on 9/11..

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