Cortosis... Canon?

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Darth Fanboy wrote:Does it make sense that in KOTOR the weapons were a "Cortosis Weave" and not necessarily 100% Cortosis?
Yes, it even said in the vibroblade descriptions that they were.

But if there was only one type of Cortosis, then it would have the same properties, and would deactivate the sabres.
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Kurgan wrote: Which one? I knew it appeared before the game, but I don't remember under what circumstances.
Vision of the Future as I recall.
Okay, you're right then, that book came out in Sept. 1998, whereas JK2 came out in mid 2002. KOTOR (the game) came out later that year ('02).
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Sephirius wrote:meh, I always figured that it wasn't really wankage, so what, cortosis fibers? There's a lot more wanked things than that in the EU, so I don't really see it as a bad thing. Makes duels more exciting. As far as the game mechanics are concerned, it was never that bad, just keep smacking him with the lightsaber, and he's bound to lose his head at an inopportune time
There's an opportune time to lose one's head? :P
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Rogue 9 wrote:
Sephirius wrote:meh, I always figured that it wasn't really wankage, so what, cortosis fibers? There's a lot more wanked things than that in the EU, so I don't really see it as a bad thing. Makes duels more exciting. As far as the game mechanics are concerned, it was never that bad, just keep smacking him with the lightsaber, and he's bound to lose his head at an inopportune time
There's an opportune time to lose one's head? :P
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YT300000 wrote:Most of KOTOR would be invalidated if it was. All the Jedi characters would simply bitch slapped by non-Force senstives, who would block a lightsabre with their Cortosis-weaved vibroblades once, and proceed to slice the Jedi in half (well, the Jedi would have to rely on Force powers a lot more, and would soon become tired and succumb, ie no Star Forge hallway battles).
you have remember Canon lightsabers are more or less one hit kill weapons so the battles would like against the IG-100, but non-Force user wouldn't advantace of droid reflexes. There nothing in KOTOR that prevents lightsaber resistant Cortosis (infact that's part of the game).
That's exactly what I'm saying. KOTOR disagrees with the only one type of Cortosis idea.
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Lord Pounder wrote:The cortosis idea was actually used by Michael Stackpole before Zahn thought of using it. In I, Jedi there was a group called the Jenssari(Sp?) who used Cortosis fibres in their armour to provide protection from Lightsabers. And IIRC I, Jedi was out long before Jedi Outcast, KOTOR or The Thrawn Duology.
You're right, 1998, way before JK2 (and it looks like 4 months before Vision of the Future).

I never read the book (skimmed the first few pages once when I had some time to kill at the book store once, but never revisited) but I remember that at the time Jedi Outcast came out some people on my forum were claiming that it ripped its plot straight from I, Jedi's pages.
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I must say, I count the various types of cortosis as bunk mostly because they exist solely for game mechanics. They also remind me of red kryptonite.
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Cortosis IS mostly game mechanics. I dont think the shutdown thing is quite right, I thing it does have somekind of energy disruption that does block lightsabers.

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Cortosis overloads many lightsabers, but does not provide much protection. If a lightsaber can withstand the feedback, it cuts with no problem.
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NecronLord wrote:I must say, I count the various types of cortosis as bunk mostly because they exist solely for game mechanics. They also remind me of red kryptonite.
What they exist for is irrelevant, the fact that it is observed that they act that way (cutscenes are canon, and there are tons of KOTOR cutscenes of a vibroblade stopping a lightsabre but not deactivating it), meaning that since they refer to it as Cortosis, its either a clerical error (unlikely, but labelling might change over 4 millenia, I guess), or there are multiple types.
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The vibroblade could be made out of any number of canonical materials (lightsabers get stopped by mundane stuff in the films - such as the floors of the Naboo Palace) that are not Cortosis. Or indeed, the meaning of the word could have changed highly likely.

And no. Only theatrical (IE, films of actors) cutscenes are truly admissable as visual canonical evidence. Unless you think these characters have low poly heads like Kryten from Red Dwarf in universe. The plot of a game is admissable, as would be recorded dialogue (such as sneaking up on stormtroopers discussing the benefits of blaster carbines over rifles.) intended for specific scenes.
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NecronLord wrote:The vibroblade could be made out of any number of canonical materials (lightsabers get stopped by mundane stuff in the films - such as the floors of the Naboo Palace) that are not Cortosis.
The description says they have a Cortosis weave, though in retrospect I don't know how canonical that would be.
And no. Only theatrical (IE, films of actors) cutscenes are truly admissable as visual canonical evidence.
Really? The what of the game is canonical, just plot?
Unless you think these characters have low poly heads like Kryten from Red Dwarf in universe.
Eh, I see what you're getting at but you can set the graphics on KOTOR PC so that they look completely real. :wink:
The plot of a game is admissable, as would be recorded dialogue (such as sneaking up on stormtroopers discussing the benefits of blaster carbines over rifles.) intended for specific scenes.
Okay, lets try a different tack then. The plot has lightsabres against vibroblades many times, which leads into my arguments above. My position is this: barring a change in the naming conventions, there are multiply types of Cortosis, with differing properties.
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