Depression...again

[salm]

i dont know what you could do, but try boxing.
hitting other people might be better than cutting yourself.

[haas mark]

i dont know what you could do, but try boxing.
hitting other people might be better than cutting yourself.

Unfortunately, I am not a violent person....I don't like to lash out on other people.

[salm]

i dont know what you could do, but try boxing.
hitting other people might be better than cutting yourself.

Unfortunately, I am not a violent person....I don't like to lash out on other people.

you dont have to be violent for being a boxer. violence has nothing to do with it.
being cool and thinking about your actions is more important.
try it, it´s a load of fun and a load of adrenaline.

[haas mark]

you dont have to be violent for being a boxer. violence has nothing to do with it.
being cool and thinking about your actions is more important.
try it, it´s a load of fun and a load of adrenaline.

Like I said, I dun like to lash out on other people....but I am definitely willing ot try karate or aikkido or tae kwon do or something like that. SOmething disciplined.

[Ghost Rider]

Then try Tai-chi

Honestly TKD and the rest are seriously the same reason Boxing exists...strip away all the high ideals and mediation, and you're left with an effective form to kill.

As for cutting...don't, hurts like hell, I've been cut enough from saber fighting...I truly hate getting cut vs sheer bashing I get from sparring.

So yeah depression sucks but try something like Tai-chi...low adrenline but it rests your mind and is truly excersie as well.

[salm]

hey, boxing is very disciplined... but whatever.
as long as it involves fighting it´s good.

[haas mark]

hey, boxing is very disciplined... but whatever.
as long as it involves fighting it´s good.

a diff kind of discipline, though. and i told you already, i am really not one for fighting.

[Ghost Rider]

Not saying they aren't disciplined...but if he doesn't want to knock someone down.

I mean I practice saber fighting, TKD, with some Shotokan and Kendo and I know the level of discipline but I do not deny they are meant to make me more effective at killing at some level.

[Ghost Rider]

So as I said try Tai-chi...discipline with no need to knock anyone down really(though it has ways of easily being applied)

[salm]

or try one of these new fancy shmanzy tae bo thingies. doesnt involve hitting other people but in volves almost every muscle.
and movement = good

[Ghost Rider]

Yeah Tae-Bo is yet another

and movement and sweating is very good

[jegs2]

How do you deal with it?

I know all too many people that cut, and I myself have had the urge to do so. I write poetry, to try to let it out...but when I have not the time or the resources to do so, I think.....cut.

I pray about it, handing everything to God, and it goes away.

[Darth Wong]

Does any of that work? Personally, I've always been a little skeptical of these "distract yourself" solutions. If you believe in yourself and your own self-worth, I don't see why you should be depressed, and that comes from within. Of course, never having been clinically depressed, I suppose I could be totally off-base here.

[haas mark]

Does any of that work? Personally, I've always been a little skeptical of these "distract yourself" solutions. If you believe in yourself and your own self-worth, I don't see why you should be depressed, and that comes from within. Of course, never having been clinically depressed, I suppose I could be totally off-base here.

It's not that I don't believe in myself--I do--it's just that so much makes me sad that I feel like hurting (cutting) will get rid of it, ease the pain...which it won't. But then, it's also a bit of a bipolarity issue....this time it was so suddenand so severe...I've never felt it like I did this time.

[Mark S]

Lenny and Carl: "Aw Homer, quit wallowing in self pity and come get drunk with us." - The Simpsons

Hope that made you laugh Verlion. Smile at least?

[haas mark]

Lenny and Carl: "Aw Homer, quit wallowing in self pity and come get drunk with us." - The Simpsons

Hope that made you laugh Verlion. Smile at least?

Not the quote, but you asking about me smiling.

[Mark S]

Lenny and Carl: "Aw Homer, quit wallowing in self pity and come get drunk with us." - The Simpsons

Hope that made you laugh Verlion. Smile at least?

Not the quote, but you asking about me smiling.

It's a start.

[Darth Wong]

It's not that I don't believe in myself--I do--it's just that so much makes me sad that I feel like hurting (cutting) will get rid of it, ease the pain...which it won't.

I still have a feeling that this relates to some kind of self-worth issue. Do you feel that you don't deserve to be comfortable and happy? Why would you want to hurt yourself?

Try to believe this, Verilon: YOU DESERVE TO BE HAPPY. Don't ever tell yourself otherwise. And if things aren't going your way right now, you've just got to have confidence that you'll eventually find a way to change that.

But then, it's also a bit of a bipolarity issue....this time it was so suddenand so severe...I've never felt it like I did this time.

In the meantime, get all sharp objects out of your domicile!!!!! None of us want you hurting yourself, Verilon.

[haas mark]

It's not that I don't believe in myself--I do--it's just that so much makes me sad that I feel like hurting (cutting) will get rid of it, ease the pain...which it won't.

I still have a feeling that this relates to some kind of self-worth issue. Do you feel that you don't deserve to be comfortable and happy? Why would you want to hurt yourself?

Try to believe this, Verilon: YOU DESERVE TO BE HAPPY. Don't ever tell yourself otherwise. And if things aren't going your way right now, you've just got to have confidence that you'll eventually find a way to change that.

I know this.....its just the fact that I'm NOT happy.

But then, it's also a bit of a bipolarity issue....this time it was so suddenand so severe...I've never felt it like I did this time.

In the meantime, get all sharp objects out of your domicile!!!!! None of us want you hurting yourself, Verilon.

Currently, I am trying to stay out of my room, for just that reason. I am afraid what might happen if I dig out a razor from somewhere, and start taking it apart.

You guys' support is helping a lot.....I feel nauseated becasue I am lettign so much out, but I know it is all for the better. I promise all of you that I will do my best not to do anything stupid before my psych appointment on next Tuesday.

[haas mark]

Lenny and Carl: "Aw Homer, quit wallowing in self pity and come get drunk with us." - The Simpsons

Hope that made you laugh Verlion. Smile at least?

Not the quote, but you asking about me smiling.

It's a start.

Yes, it is.

[Pavel]

How do you deal with it?

I know all too many people that cut, and I myself have had the urge to do so. I write poetry, to try to let it out...but when I have not the time or the resources to do so, I think.....cut.

Get a fine small refractor, drive up alone to the nearest clean sky, put up a tent and drink a beer or two(only) while observing the cosmos, look for deep space objects like spiral galaxies and open clusters, and think how much the universe is huge and how much this dirty planet is small and solitaire floating, floating in space, you will discover that it ain't worth worying about a thing in life but yourself.
the next day go to a drug-store and buy a couple of lexotanil tablets and calm your nerves down and keep observing for a few nights with your freinds and get back to me.
(Pavelism)

[salm]

hmm... i dont like the medication idea. i did my social service with mentally sick people and the medication (leponex, zyprexa) turns them into emtionless, sleepy zombies.

[Next of Kin]

It's not that I don't believe in myself--I do--it's just that so much makes me sad that I feel like hurting (cutting) will get rid of it, ease the pain...which it won't. But then, it's also a bit of a bipolarity issue....this time it was so suddenand so severe...I've never felt it like I did this time.

Verilon, an Aikido class would be for you. I'm not going to try to sell as a solution for all your problems because it isn't. I can understand why you don't wish to get into the combatives because you're a peaceful person and you don't wish to inflict any pain on someone. Aikido isn't about fighting-it's about discovering balance and imbalance and how to use both of those states to your advantage. It is a relaxed art which uses little or no power of your own. Think of it as a voyage to discovery. You already believe in yourself and that is excellent! I go to these classes not only to learn more about balance/imbalance but to make new friends as well. You're at college/university am I correct? Try your local clubs listing and see if there is such a club. It couldn't hurt to try one class.

[salm]

yup, spend some time doing sports instead of message boards.

[Next of Kin]

Pavel wrote:

you will discover that it ain't worth worying about a thing in life but yourself.

What a flippant point to make. You nor I truly know what Verilon is going through at this time.