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Nephtys wrote: You've got a weird definition of true heroine. Yuna's got an awful voice actress in FFX.. better in FFX2, but she has no depth.
Hedy Burress voiced Yuna in both games. And I really don't see why she was that bad. I mean, would you rather have something similar to having Mandy Moore voice Aeris/Aerith in Kingdom Hearts?

I have no complaints about the voice of Yuna in the games, and I can hardly see how that detracts from the character's status as the lead heroine.

She fits the depressingly long trends of three different female characters in FF...

A. Mary-Sue 'Oh no, I've been captured!' love interest healer-mage.
B. Spastic perky Jailbait character that is powered by pure sugar.
C. Barely-mobile character with two big polygons.

...this list is not particularly progressive, is it?
Yes, I see you're forcing the character to fit a pre-arranged stereotype that exists in your head to justify it.

Well, let's examine that.

C need not be mentioned.
B is out, since I will agree that Rikku fits that.
A is the best fit, because she's the love interest of the "main" character and she's a healer and magic-user. And that's all there is to the character, right?

Wait, no, that's not all there is to the character.

I'm not arguing the FFX games couldn't have been better written - because they could have been - but the writers did a sufficient job of making Yuna the most unique heroine in Final Fantasy since Celes and Terra, IMHO. Yes, Hedy Burress didn't have a sexy or sweet or even nice-sounding voice, but she conveyed emotion at the right points, and this new dimension to characterization in an FF game was fully utilized.

Now, why did I call Yuna a "true heroine"?

Despite her youth, despite having the possibility of a happy, fulfilling life ahead of her, Yuna chose to become a summoner - and endure all of the trials and tests that involved - and to embark on a dangerous, arduous journey into the unknown knowing that even if she succeeded and defeated Sin, she would die too. Moreso, she continued on this hard path, even when she had everything she'd known challenged and had been branded a traitor by the very people she was to sacrifice herself for, because she believed that she could bring her people the Calm once again, perhaps an eternal one. And then, when that hope was dashed by the revelation in Zanarkand, she showed the versatility to refuse to sacrifice one of her friends with herself and chose to find a new way, a better way, which she did, freeing her people from an endless cycle of destruction that had lasted a thousand years.

There is your stereotype. Your caricature. An individual character, unique to her world, who is completely committed to the good of her people to the extent that she underwent trials of the body, mind, and soul - trials that most men and women would shirk away from - knowing that she would still lose her life.

But oh no. She's just a generic "Mary-Sue 'Oh no, I've been captured!' love interest healer-mage". :roll:
So Yuna's quite worthy of hate. Especially since she turns into a Tidus-clone in the second one, even picking up his habit of dressing in asymetrical pants. (Look at her gunner dress. The hell?)
Her pants were not asymmetrical. Of course, they weren't really pants either. :wink:
Oh wait. I nearly forgot. FFX2 introduced a fourth kind of female character. The depressive leather-clad lesbian. Way to go, Japan. Great role models. :roll:
Wow, Paine is a lesbian? I didn't know that. :P

Seriously, FFX-2's appeal - beyond the obvious - was the change in style. It was cheesy action-adventure fun, with enough sprinkling of seriousness to keep it from going completely over the edge.

Though I still want to hurt whoever decided upon Rikku's default appearance and I still think it was conceived during a crack-snorting session involving many viewings of the movie "Charlie's Angels". 8)
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Most of what I said was half tongue in cheek. You know, I refer to Yuna as the Mary-Sue not just because of the classic 'Princess in trouble' thing, but because the entire game revolves around her. She starts.. and ends pretty bland, with a robotic job. FFX2 made her voice acting tolerable as you know... people get used to stuff.

Yuna had a full life in front of her. Sure. I'll give her that, but the way the game was presented really got in the way. And didn't Aeris have the same deal? And sure, she isn't as bad as I made out earlier, since Tidus takes that award, followed *closely* by Wakka. But still, the 'Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha' scene made me cringe so much. Don't forget she's not allowed to show emotion, and EVERYBODY loves SPESHUL YUNA. :P
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She was a priestess and a summoner. And it appeared to me that a lot of mental discipline went into that. The kind of discipline that leads to the suppression of emotions at times.

Yuna could be emotional when it was needed. That she wasn't all the time was acceptable because of who she was, IMHO.
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