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Kane Starkiller wrote: Take a look at this frame:
+http://www.geocities.com/idesdjurdja/tf ... _width.jpg
Now any perspective error here is minimal and we can determine with great accuracy the size difference between the "arm" , the core and the total length of the ship. Note that radius of the core ship is 3.38 times smaller than the radius of the entire ship. The 700m figure for the core ship yields a 2367m diameter for the entire ship. Or 3170m figure yields a 937m diameter for the core ship. I don't see how the ICS can be correct here.
The difference in diameter/radius isn't THAt substantial, and I disagree that the error in this instancee is "minimal" - it is hard for me to judge where the exact edge of the "core ship" is in this angle, and given its a sphere its quite possible to screw up the scaling (this also applies, to a somewhat lesser extent, to the overall diameter.)

As a comparison, use the opening shot of Trade Fed battleships at the start of the movie (when the consular ship lands), or the sensor scan of the DCS when they return to Naboo. (Ender gives other examples as well.)
Well examining this picture:
+http://www.geocities.com/idesdjurdja/la ... width2.jpg
we get at about 397m width for the landing craft using the 60m heigth figure.
Using that number we get a width of the battleship of 5065m.
I did scale according to that one, and I got a dimension according to a "two mile" figure.

There are problems with the "width" I would point out. Given that the wings are "double" on each side, the wings can appear "longer" due to the edge of the "back" one merging with the front wing.

Also, 60 meters (on scaling based on the MTT) is an upper limit for me. I've gotten heights around 48-50 meters or so, as well.
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Ender wrote: During the short bursts my laptop was working during this cruise, I accomplished a lot for my planned website. Lots of scaling, a complete engine discussion (heavy on real world physics), and some heavy duty proof from ESB and ROTJ that would make bobby cry. When I get settled, I'll update the usual crowd.
Be interesting to hear.
Battleships specifically, though it can't be ruled out for the DCS (I personally doubt it though, it would risk shooting its antenna off). I went through the escape scene basically frame by frame and found evidence of rows of turrets either DWR missed or were added afterwards, and traced back where shots came from. The things is still weak for its size, but it deserves far more respect then it gets.
That might make sense. The DCS is after all a freighter modified with all the communications and computer gear dedicated to controlling all these armies. That could very well dictate reducing the armament to accomodate all that other stuff. The TPM:ICS stats are for the Droid Control ship, so its possible the battleship itself has more guns (maybe heavier ones.. I'd be curious to know the size of those turrets.)
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Kane Starkiller wrote:It just hit me like a ton of bricks.
Check out this image:
+http://www.geocities.com/idesdjurdja/ship_widthedit.jpg
This image shows a Trade Federation battleship. The width of the ship is 434px, the width of the arm is 100px and the width of the sphere is 97px.
If we use the 700m diameter for the sphere we get a 3132m for ship's width.
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This picture on the other hand shows us completley different sphere to width ratio:
+http://www.geocities.com/idesdjurdja/tf ... _width.jpg

BUT this is a frickin' Droid Control ship not a standard battleship.
Furthermore we never saw a landing craft inside a battleship, for all we know they could be exiting the landing bay sideways thus enabling a 280m hangar to launch a 370m+ landing craft.

CONCLUSION:
Trade Federation battleship width:3170m
Trade Federation core ship:700m

Droid control ship width:~5.2km
Droid control ship sphere:~1.53km
Or, (more reasonably) the landing ship's dimensions are wonky (which seems to be the case.) Its quite possible that they attach wings of different dimensions to the landing craft, which would result in disparate lengths. Those wings are used to hold ground vehicles after all, and longer wings would allow greater capacity. And since the wings AREN'T anchored to the ship except by tensor fields (and are thus removable), the ship can be considered easily modular.

Shorter wings would allow for easier launches as well.
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