A greater evil (topic edited for your safety)

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-18 04:46pm

What are your opinions on it? I have an interview tomorrow for a telemarketing place. I know they be evil...very evil....but it means a LOT of money. I mean, I will be MAKING BANK. $7/hr to START, and it goes up to $8/hr after training, with the potential to be making up to $15/hr. Now, if you were in my position, what would you do? Take the job (yes, I will take the job if I can), or try to find a lesser evil (is fast food really a lesser evil?)...?

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-11-18 04:47pm

EVIL! KILL KILL KILL!!!!!

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-18 04:48pm

IG-88E wrote:EVIL! KILL KILL KILL!!!!!

Okay, Iggy, now try reading the post, k?

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-11-18 04:51pm

Sorry. I saw 'telemarketing' and automatically flew off the handle.

Yeah. I'd take it.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2002-11-18 04:52pm

If you take this job and call my dorm I will hunt you down and I will kill you. I will be especially brutal should you call before 11 AM. Mark my words.

Other than that, I think you should take the job. Money is good.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-18 04:53pm

Durran Korr wrote:If you take this job and call my dorm I will hunt you down and I will kill you. I will be especially brutal should you call before 11 AM. Mark my words.

Other than that, I think you should take the job. Money is good.

THis place doesn't call for credit cards....

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2002-11-18 04:53pm

Trust me Ver, You really Really REALLY dont want to take that job... 3 words: www.antitelemarketer.com

Mike_6002 · Post by **Mike_6002** » 2002-11-18 04:55pm

DIE DIE DIE

I HATE TELEMARKETERS

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-18 04:55pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Trust me Ver, You really Really REALLY dont want to take that job... 3 words: www.antitelemarketer.com

Umm...okay. But I am used to peopple hating my guts because of the fact that I am working somewhere. ie, the movie thatre. Poeple hated the employees because....well....they just did.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-11-18 04:56pm

I did it once, I was fired after they relised I was prefacing my calls so they went like this

*Ring
Poor Soul:Hello?
Me:Hello this is one of those Evil Telemarkers may I sell you a useless product?

Normaly they hung up somwhere during my little speech or right after

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2002-11-18 04:58pm

verilon wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Trust me Ver, You really Really REALLY dont want to take that job... 3 words: www.antitelemarketer.com
Umm...okay. But I am used to peopple hating my guts because of the fact that I am working somewhere. ie, the movie thatre. Poeple hated the employees because....well....they just did.

You must, of course, do what you think is right. I'm not fond of people trying to hard sell subscriptions or aluminum siding over the phone to me but maybe this job could lead you elsewhere...

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-18 04:59pm

Next of Kin wrote:
verilon wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Trust me Ver, You really Really REALLY dont want to take that job... 3 words: www.antitelemarketer.com
Umm...okay. But I am used to peopple hating my guts because of the fact that I am working somewhere. ie, the movie thatre. Poeple hated the employees because....well....they just did.
You must, of course, do what you think is right. I'm not fond of people trying to hard sell subscriptions or aluminum siding over the phone to me but maybe this job could lead you elsewhere...

Yes....to $15/hr! CHA CHING!!! Anyways, I WILL take the job, if I am given the opportunity.

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2002-11-18 04:59pm

Here is a anti telemarketing script:

http://www.junkbusters.com/ht/en/script.html

Every "$" sign is a suable offence. More info at the link.

What to say when they call if you don't want junk calls

Every time you get a call you consider junk, just ask the questions in this script. If they answer no, you may be able to sue them. You can print copies of it to keep by every phone at home. If everyone follows it, the junk calls will slowly but surely drop off.

1. ``Are you calling to sell something?'' (or ``is this a telemarketing call?'')
2. ``Could you tell me your full name please?'' $
3. ``And a phone number, area code first?'' $
4. ``What's the name of the organization you're calling for?'' $
5. ``Does that organization keep a list of numbers it's been asked not to call?'' $
6. ``I would like my number(s) put on that list. Can you take care of that now?'' $
7. ``And does the company you work for also make telemarketing calls for any other organizations?'' (If they answer no, skip the next question.)
8. (If yes) ``Can you make sure your company won't call me for any other organization?'' $

You may need to ask to speak with a supervisor if they sound lost. When you're ready to let them off, you might close with ``Is it clear that I never want telemarketing calls from anyone?'' and just say goodbye. If you feel like making them pay, keep going:

1. ``Will your company keep my number on its do-not-call list for at least ten years?'' $
2. ``And does your company have a written policy that says that on paper?'' $
3. ``Can you send me a copy of it?'' $
4. ``What's your supervisor's first and last name?''
5. ``What's your employer's business name, address and main telephone number?''
6. ``Are you calling for a tax-exempt nonprofit organization?''
7. ``Is this call based on a previously established business relationship?''

Before hanging up, check you have all their answers written down, then say goodbye. Add the date and time to your record. (Is it between 8 a.m. and 9 p.m.? $)

Disclaimer: nothing here should be taken as legal advice. If they answer no to any question ending in ``$'' you may be able to sue them for $500-$1500 under the Telephone Consumer Protection Act. But if the answer to either of the last two questions is yes, then the Act doesn't consider the call to be a solicitation, so it's not covered by many of its regulations. Also excluded are calls to business numbers. For more details, see our pages on federal laws and on how to reduce telemarketing calls and junk mail. JUNKBUSTERS DECLARE makes it easy to tell companies not sell your phone number to telemarketers, and to request the Direct Marketing Association's Telephone Preference Service.

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2002-11-18 05:00pm

Mr Bean wrote:I did it once, I was fired after they relised I was prefacing my calls so they went like this

*Ring
Poor Soul:Hello?
Me:Hello this is one of those Evil Telemarkers may I sell you a useless product?

Normaly they hung up somwhere during my little speech or right after

Bean I love your pitch!

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-11-18 05:08pm

Take the job, but just know that we all have to kill you now.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-18 05:08pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:Take the job, but just know that we all have to kill you now.

I don't plan on calling any of you.

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2002-11-18 05:25pm

verilon wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:Take the job, but just know that we all have to kill you now.
I don't plan on calling any of you.

You should, however call the all of the trolls that have been banned from this board at 5:30 in the morning asking if they'd like a yearly subscription to gigantic asses!

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-18 05:26pm

Next of Kin wrote:
verilon wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:Take the job, but just know that we all have to kill you now.
I don't plan on calling any of you.
You should, however call the all of the trolls that have been banned from this board at 5:30 in the morning asking if they'd like a yearly subscription to gigantic asses!

I know one troll that would....And the latest I would have to work (I think) is 11PM, the earliest being 3PM, except on weekends, when it is 9 or 10 AM on an 8-hour shift.

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2002-11-18 05:27pm

Pavel or Dorkstar?

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-11-18 05:28pm

Why not? It's a high-paying job, and you can bug all the people you . You have o know the esentials of being a telemarketer first, though. Always mispronounce the person's name, no matter how simple it is. Then, call during the most unexpected hours of the day. Also, make sure the stuff you sell is cheap crap nobody would want.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-11-18 05:29pm

Next of Kin wrote:Pavel or Dorkstar?

Yes.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-18 05:29pm

Next of Kin wrote:Pavel or Dorkstar?

*shudder* Pavel.. I (thankfully) never knew Dorkstar's presence...I got here just after he was banned.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-18 05:30pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:Why not? It's a high-paying job, and you can bug all the people you . You have o know the esentials of being a telemarketer first, though. Always mispronounce the person's name, no matter how simple it is. Then, call during the most unexpected hours of the day. Also, make sure the stuff you sell is cheap crap nobody would want.

*ahem* I won't be working too late.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 2002-11-18 05:36pm

verilon wrote:What are your opinions on it? I have an interview tomorrow for a telemarketing place. I know they be evil...very evil....but it means a LOT of money. I mean, I will be MAKING BANK. $7/hr to START, and it goes up to $8/hr after training, with the potential to be making up to $15/hr. Now, if you were in my position, what would you do? Take the job (yes, I will take the job if I can), or try to find a lesser evil (is fast food really a lesser evil?)...?

All this heat from people on the board for 7 or 8 bucks an hour? What other benefits are we talking about here? Health, Dental, Stock options, bonuses? 15 bucks is good if this is some kind of part time job while you are in school, but I think that is all smoke and mirrors anyway. After how many years? After how many people you piss off while interupting them during the early morning hours will you get promoted to 15 dollars an hour? Or is it per death threat?

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-18 05:37pm

King Cosmos wrote:
verilon wrote:What are your opinions on it? I have an interview tomorrow for a telemarketing place. I know they be evil...very evil....but it means a LOT of money. I mean, I will be MAKING BANK. $7/hr to START, and it goes up to $8/hr after training, with the potential to be making up to $15/hr. Now, if you were in my position, what would you do? Take the job (yes, I will take the job if I can), or try to find a lesser evil (is fast food really a lesser evil?)...?
All this heat from people on the board for 7 or 8 bucks an hour? What other benefits are we talking about here? Health, Dental, Stock options, bonuses? 15 bucks is good if this is some kind of part time job while you are in school, but I think that is all smoke and mirrors anyway. After how many years? After how many people you piss off while interupting them during the early morning hours will you get promoted to 15 dollars an hour? Or is it per death threat?

After 7-8 Months. And no early mornings. THe earliest is 8AM, and the latest is 11PM.

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