A SW design I'm working on

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-04-30 02:25pm

OK this is Star Wars starship design I started to work on because board was down and didn't have anything else to do.

What do you think?
Any comments or suggestions?

PS. there's very badly drawn Venator for scale.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-04-30 02:32pm

What's the function of this ship?

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-04-30 02:37pm

Elheru Aran wrote:What's the function of this ship?

a command ship/(Star)cruisers (basically something between a V(en)SD and Mandator SSD).

Firefox · Post by **Firefox** » 2005-04-30 02:41pm

Fixed the Venator for you.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-04-30 02:45pm

Lord Revan wrote:
Elheru Aran wrote:What's the function of this ship?
a command ship/(Star)cruisers (basically something between a V(en)SD and Mandator SSD).

Alright, well, there's a shitload of command ships out there already-- Allegiances, Venegance, Executor, Eclipse, Sovereign, et al.

That said...

You'll want some extra texture on the surface. Check out pics of the Sovereign and Allegiance, as yours looks to be about that size-- they'll probably give you some good ideas as to the general design you'll want. Basically, just take cues from the starships we've seen.

Or you could also go with a mini-Executor look-- flat, with a 'cityscape' in the middle with smooth hull around it; while a bit cheesy, it makes much more economic sense, as it's not as fat as Sovereigns, hence less material needed to make it.

Really, it's your ship... feel free to play with it any way you like...

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-04-30 02:46pm

Firefox wrote:Fixed the Venator for you.

thanks (not that there was any need as it was there just to give my ship a sense of scale, but if I need venators later I think I'll use that.)

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-04-30 02:50pm

Elheru Aran wrote:You'll want some extra texture on the surface. Check out pics of the Sovereign and Allegiance, as yours looks to be about that size-- they'll probably give you some good ideas as to the general design you'll want. Basically, just take cues from the starships we've seen.

Or you could also go with a mini-Executor look-- flat, with a 'cityscape' in the middle with smooth hull around it; while a bit cheesy, it makes much more economic sense, as it's not as fat as Sovereigns, hence less material needed to make it.

Really, it's your ship... feel free to play with it any way you like...

this quite early stage so there's not much hull details yet. At this stage more about the basic hull shape and thing like placement of the engines.

Firefox · Post by **Firefox** » 2005-04-30 02:51pm

Why not stick with the Star Cruiser label? As Elheru explained, there are plenty of command ship classes (unless you wanted to, for example, create an apocryphal design for the Mandator).

Also, as has been said, give it a dorsal cortex that is better armored perhaps, and don't add the enormous ventral docking bay. If you want it to service escort ships, go with smaller ports.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-04-30 03:00pm

Firefox wrote:Why not stick with the Star Cruiser label? As Elheru explained, there are plenty of command ship classes (unless you wanted to, for example, create an apocryphal design for the Mandator).

Also, as has been said, give it a dorsal cortex that is better armored perhaps, and don't add the enormous ventral docking bay. If you want it to service escort ships, go with smaller ports.

The command ship part comes from the fact that I intend to use it as a Republic flag ship in PSW (and probaly my SW Vs. ST) fic and for the docking bay, I think I'll a regular SD bay (the same that VSDs and ISDs have).

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-04-30 03:00pm

On second look, it appears you're trying for a bit of an Acclamator/Venator look with the tail? In that case, you might want to try checking out Venator side views, look at their lines and see how you could work in the dorsal bulge.

Remember that the design for most Star Destroyers is like a thick wedge-- thin and sharp at the bow, tapering up to a fat rear. I'd advise some terraces on top as well; while the Venator doesn't have those (IIRC), you could try to incorporate in one or two small terraces, making it somewhat of an intermediate between the Venator and Sovereign.

Firefox · Post by **Firefox** » 2005-04-30 03:06pm

Also, who's the manufacturer? If it's KDY, you may want to follow the Venator's lines. This is the only side elevation of the VenStar that I know of.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-04-30 03:30pm

Firefox wrote:Also, who's the manufacturer? If it's KDY, you may want to follow the Venator's lines. This is the only side elevation of the VenStar that I know of.

I was thinking of Corellian Enginering Corporation as the manufacturer.

EDIT:some changes (including the Venator (it's Firefox's version now)).

Firefox · Post by **Firefox** » 2005-04-30 03:46pm

Eh, I'm not sure CEC would be the way to go, since they're not well known for designing capital ships like that. KDY and Rendili are the only two I know of that have designed wedge-shaped vessels, though that alone isn't the only requirement.

What about Rothana, even though they're a KDY subsidiary?

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-04-30 03:50pm

Firefox wrote:Eh, I'm not sure CEC would be the way to go, since they're not well known for designing capital ships like that. KDY and Rendili are the only two I know of that have designed wedge-shaped vessels, though that alone isn't the only requirement.

What about Rothana, even though they're a KDY subsidiary?

It's not set on stone, so it can change (and Admiral Giel's flagship is considered a CEC ship).

Firefox · Post by **Firefox** » 2005-04-30 04:23pm

Lord Revan wrote:
Firefox wrote:Eh, I'm not sure CEC would be the way to go, since they're not well known for designing capital ships like that. KDY and Rendili are the only two I know of that have designed wedge-shaped vessels, though that alone isn't the only requirement.

What about Rothana, even though they're a KDY subsidiary?
It's not set on stone, so it can change (and Admiral Giel's flagship is considered a CEC ship).

I wasn't aware of Giel's flagship's origin. Thanks for the clarification.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-04-30 04:55pm

Firefox wrote:I wasn't aware of Giel's flagship's origin. Thanks for the clarification.

what do think of the Redesign.

Firefox · Post by **Firefox** » 2005-04-30 05:00pm

I like the direction it's going. I'll need some more views to make a better judgment, though. I take it you're going to stick with the Venator design philosophy?

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-04-30 05:12pm

Firefox wrote:I like the direction it's going. I'll need some more views to make a better judgment, though. I take it you're going to stick with the Venator design philosophy?

pretty much, I might try to draw side view.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-04-30 06:18pm

a side view, the bridge needs some work.

Firefox · Post by **Firefox** » 2005-04-30 06:34pm

How about this?

Also, study Giel's flagship a bit more. That may give you an idea of where you want to take the design.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-04-30 06:39pm

the armor plate is too high, but the bridge and aft of the ship look good (BTW did you check that this does match the top view?)

Firefox · Post by **Firefox** » 2005-04-30 06:44pm

It looked like the top and side views matched. The hardest part of making such a drawing in MS Paint is making the different views match. I know I've had that hassle with my VSD plans.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-04-30 06:50pm

Firefox wrote:It looked like the top and side views matched. The hardest part of making such a drawing in MS Paint is making the different views match. I know I've had that hassle with my VSD plans.

take half of you top view and draw lines from borders of the structures and then use those lines as a guide to were thing go.

EDIT:I used your modification exept for the bridge as it didn't match the top view. it looks now pretty much what I liked.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-04-30 07:22pm

First try with colors.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-05-01 06:38am

OK some more surface detail (gun turrets)

those red dots are mark for places weapons that are too small to be seen from that range (they're mainly for me so that can be consistent with the TL blasts).