Tantive IV - Why Fight?

NRS Guardian · Post by **NRS Guardian** » 2005-05-01 02:22am

Another reason for fighting is to provide enough of a distraction that the ISD won't notice the escape pod or will pay less attention to it. Because if they surrender without a fight but eject an escape pod it first makes them look rather suspicious if not guilty and there's a chance the ISD will either destroy it or tractor it back. Plus, one of their goals was to get Obi-Wan, who was on Tatooine, to help them.

Cykeisme · Post by **Cykeisme** » 2005-05-01 10:02am

Right, an important point we've overlooked.. the purpose of travelling to Tatooine was to enlist Obi Wan's aid.

Kazuaki, you're probably right that Vader could have justified executing the passengers crew of the Tantive IV, but I don't think he planned to do so. Whether or not the Tantive IV stood down, and whether or not he could have justified his actions to the Senate, Vader always did intend to wipe them all out. He's just that big a meanie

SCRawl · Post by **SCRawl** » 2005-05-01 12:17pm

Here's another question: exactly how did the rebels plan to exploit the weakness they hoped to discover in the DS? Obviously, part of this plan involved getting the last of the Jedi, Obi-Wan Kenobi to do the dirty work. (It's interesting that Bail Organa knew where Kenobi was staying, considering the level of secrecy of that bit of information. One wonders if he also knew exactly why Kenobi was staying there.)

Anyways, let's say that everything went as planned, that the Tantive IV managed to pick up Obi-Wan, go back to Yavin, and cook up a plan. Then what? They don't know where the DS is. In RotJ, they lost a bunch of spies trying to find the DS2, and it was stationary (not to mention that Palpatine allowed them to find it). Knowing that the DS plans are still out there, the Imperials probably wouldn't try to employ it with impunity, but would rather use it cautiously. "The government of Alderaan will capitulate or we will destroy the planet!" The government doesn't capitulate, and out of the blue, the DS shows up and destroys it, taking off shortly thereafter.

There would be no way for the rebels to anticipate where the DS would show up, and therefore no way to employ their means to destroy it. In the end, having the Tantive IV get captured was the best thing that could have happened to them.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2005-05-01 04:21pm

Considering that Organa was in on the plan to separate the Skywalker twins, it's not too much of a stretch.

The Rebels probably planned to leak the location of a base and draw the DS there so they could engage.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-05-01 04:37pm

We know Obi-wan and Yoda are probaly the only surviving Jedi(by ANH), also (ROTS spoilers it seem that Bail Organa, is one of the few if not the only one who knows where both went (except for the Jedi them selves). Also there's probaly some reason why Tantive IV changed to real weapons instead of fakes it had in ROTS

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2005-05-01 04:39pm

There were a handful of other Jedi survivors by ANH.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-05-01 04:41pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:There were a handful of other Jedi survivors by ANH.

so they got killed between ANH and ROTJ (or died of natural causes)?

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2005-05-01 04:46pm

Lord Revan wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:There were a handful of other Jedi survivors by ANH.
so they got killed between ANH and ROTJ (or died of natural causes)?

Is Yoda omniscient, now?

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-05-01 04:55pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
Lord Revan wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:There were a handful of other Jedi survivors by ANH.
so they got killed between ANH and ROTJ (or died of natural causes)?
Is Yoda omniscient, now?

well no, you'd think would have heard if there were other Jedi.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2005-05-01 05:07pm

why? Hearing about them in the Imperial era mean they are or soon will be terminated

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-05-01 05:11pm

Isolder74 wrote:why? Hearing about them in the Imperial era mean they are or soon will be terminated

IIRC there's soem post ROTS books were Obi-wan is on missions outside Tatooine

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2005-05-01 05:30pm

True, but for the most part Obi-wan tries not to advertise the fact that he's a Jedi.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-05-01 05:33pm

Darth Yoshi wrote:True, but for the most part Obi-wan tries not to advertise the fact that he's a Jedi.

didn't those mission involve other Jedi survivors

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2005-05-01 05:36pm

Probably. Obi-wan's first excursion after ROTS involves a former Jedi who is resisting the New Order. I don't know the details of any others.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-05-01 05:38pm

Darth Yoshi wrote:Probably. Obi-wan's first excursion after ROTS involves a former Jedi who is resisting the New Order. I don't know the details of any others.

so they might tell each others their cover ID just in case.