PETA protesters dog J.Lo at movie premier

[Wicked Pilot]

I just said that leather jackets look cooler than fur coats. I would assume most leather comes from cows, from which I assume their bodies are used for other purposes besides just the leather. In my first post I stated that I'm not a big fan of fur when it's the only peice harvested. Of course I'm not that knowlegable about the industry, so if you all feel the need to straighten me out then go ahead.

[Chmee]

I just said that leather jackets look cooler than fur coats. I would assume most leather comes from cows, from which I assume their bodies are used for other purposes besides just the leather. In my first post I stated that I'm not a big fan of fur when it's the only peice harvested. Of course I'm not that knowlegable about the industry, so if you all feel the need to straighten me out then go ahead.

So you're saying as long as there's tasty Mink Sausage, you're okay with the fur?

[Wicked Pilot]

So you're saying as long as there's tasty Mink Sausage, you're okay with the fur?

If people wanna eat Mink Sausage, and there's fur left over, then I say have at it. It won't change the fact that mink coats look gay though.

[General Zod]

the vast majority of produce animals -are- raised humanely. the tapes the peta use showing horror stories of animals being abused are typically in the rare minority. but they try and pass it off as though it's how the majority of farms handle their animals.

Really? How do you define humanely? When did this grand revolution in animal welfare amongst large-scale meat producers take place? If factory farms are so harmless, then why do organic farms get away with charging so much more for humanely raised meat?

are you suggesting that the vast majority of producers are not in fact treated humanely? if so, then please provide proof of such. preferably from sources other than the peta.

[Wicked Pilot]

These discussions of humane practices among the industry really doesn't apply when it comes to arguing about a PETA position. PETA doesn't care two shits worth if cows, pigs, chickens, etc, are treated humanely. If given the power they'd outright ban meats, dairy, furs, zoos, scientific testing, etc, regardless.

[Civil War Man]

These discussions of humane practices among the industry really doesn't apply when it comes to arguing about a PETA position. PETA doesn't care two shits worth if cows, pigs, chickens, etc, are treated humanely. If given the power they'd outright ban meats, dairy, furs, zoos, scientific testing, etc, regardless.

And pets. Don't forget pets.

They're also opposed using dogs to help the blind get around.

[General Zod]

These discussions of humane practices among the industry really doesn't apply when it comes to arguing about a PETA position. PETA doesn't care two shits worth if cows, pigs, chickens, etc, are treated humanely. If given the power they'd outright ban meats, dairy, furs, zoos, scientific testing, etc, regardless.

naturally. but much like fundies without at least something resembling a coherent reason (sometimes not even that), and a lot of fear mongering, people wouldn't buy into 'em.

[The Yosemite Bear]

Every once in a while, I dream a little dream that someone like Mike Tyson, Sean Penn or Jesse Ventura will change careers, and start a chain of combination leather gallery and steak house, and that PETA would get wind of it and decide to 'do something about it'.

no it should be all of them plus Ted Nugent and Robbie Kenieve, together like the Willis+Stalone+others hard rock chain.

[BlkbrryTheGreat]

I just said that leather jackets look cooler than fur coats. I would assume most leather comes from cows, from which I assume their bodies are used for other purposes besides just the leather. In my first post I stated that I'm not a big fan of fur when it's the only peice harvested. Of course I'm not that knowlegable about the industry, so if you all feel the need to straighten me out then go ahead.

Would you have a problem wearing leather if we didn't eat the meat?

[Spambot Jedi]

I hate PETA as much as the next guy but I really can't fault them for this. So long as humans are technically considered animals, I cannot think of a more vile act of animal cruelty than "Maid in Manhattan."

On a side not, anyone else notice the irony in PETA "dogging" J.Lo--bitch is waaaaaaaay overated!

[Aaron]

And pets. Don't forget pets.

They're also opposed using dogs to help the blind get around.

WHAT?

[Civil War Man]

And pets. Don't forget pets.

They're also opposed using dogs to help the blind get around.

WHAT?

According to PETA, pets and guide dogs are exploiting the animals for the purposes of human entertainment and utility (respectively). We don't give seeing eye humans to blind dogs, after all.

As for the pets, if PETA actually thinks that owning a pet is exploitation of anyone but the owner, they've obviously never had to take care of a cat.

[Boyish-Tigerlilly]

I can't say I am a big fan of leather or fur either. I don't like the idea of killing something for fashion. Now, if there were no realistic alternative to clothe yourself, I could understand it, as long as they aren't mistreated.

I don't mind farming animals for food, even though I do sympathize with them, because isn't it unhealthy not to have a balanced diet? Don't you need some meat to be healthy, unless you have a very hard-to-manage, strict diet? Not everyone can do that.

But that's just me. I don't think it's right either to use animals for fashion and fads. Necessity, survivial, or realism, yes.

[Castor Troy]

Even worse is when they violently go against animal testing. I can think of little that pisses me off more than that.

[Ryoga]

It's funny how some people in PETA don't even know about the 'no pets' thing....I actually made a little girl (well, okay, she looked to be about 14, so she wasn't exactly little ....but I was 18 at the time, so....) cry when I told her that PETA (which she was passing out fliers for, by the way) didn't want people to own pets, and that if she seriously wanted to take my cats and dog away she could go fuck herself.

I love shattering the carefully-nurtured illusions of teenagers. [/b]

[Loner]

That party needed one of those giant beef burritos from that other thread.

Better idea: An entire beef roasting over a fire

I'll see your roasted beef, and raise you that 15 pound monster of a burger from the other thread.

[Lagmonster]

Even worse is when they violently go against animal testing. I can think of little that pisses me off more than that.

Paying attention to animal rights protesters is like having a hobo offer to give you a lesson on retirement budget planning.

My personal favourite anecdote involves the local Ottawa animal rights group that descends on the CFIA labs every summer when, I suppose, they aren't too busy in classes to get in the way. The funny part is that the labs they are protesting are the Canadian Food Inspection Agency location where the primary goal is to ensure the HEALTH of livestock. Guess it's more 'humane' to stop trying to cure mad cow disease or pig arthritis (don't laugh, it's a big deal) and let the animals suffer.

[2000AD]

Even worse is when they violently go against animal testing. I can think of little that pisses me off more than that.

What was worse was the protesters that went and dug up and stole the body of someone grandmother.
What had they done?
They ran a guinea pig farm that partially supplied G.Pigs for research.

[Alyrium Denryle]

the vast majority of produce animals -are- raised humanely. the tapes the peta use showing horror stories of animals being abused are typically in the rare minority. but they try and pass it off as though it's how the majority of farms handle their animals.

Really? How do you define humanely? When did this grand revolution in animal welfare amongst large-scale meat producers take place? If factory farms are so harmless, then why do organic farms get away with charging so much more for humanely raised meat?

Many actually use an autistic animal psychologist to design facilities that dont scare the cows and make the cows as comfortable as possible. The reason organic farms can charge so much is because they have the word organic in their names, and because they dont use antiobiotics or growth hormones.

[Aaron]

According to PETA, pets and guide dogs are exploiting the animals for the purposes of human entertainment and utility (respectively). We don't give seeing eye humans to blind dogs, after all.

Thats pretty fucked up. So they think it's reasonable that a human, many of which who are born blind should have to walk around banging a stick off of shit to see things? Guide dogs are more than happy to serve, dogs love that kind of thing.

That gives me even more reason to hate PETA.

As for the pets, if PETA actually thinks that owning a pet is exploitation of anyone but the owner, they've obviously never had to take care of a cat.

I have a cat, she cetainly isn't being exploited. In fact she's got my kids wrapped around her little paws.

[Wicked Pilot]

Would you have a problem wearing leather if we didn't eat the meat?

Possibly. This isn't an issue I feel too strongly about, so I pretty much judge the scenarios as come they.

[General Zod]

And pets. Don't forget pets.

They're also opposed using dogs to help the blind get around.

WHAT?

did you know the peta's also opposed to eating fish? they want to afford them the same status as family pets.

[Aaron]

did you know the peta's also opposed to eating fish? they want to afford them the same status as family pets.

But fish can't even feel pain for fuck sakes! What exactly is it that PETA wants us to eat? Without a balanced diet we will simply die, and not everyone is going to be able to afford the "supplements" that vegeans need to take to live.

[Alyrium Denryle]

did you know the peta's also opposed to eating fish? they want to afford them the same status as family pets.

But fish can't even feel pain for fuck sakes! What exactly is it that PETA wants us to eat? Without a balanced diet we will simply die, and not everyone is going to be able to afford the "supplements" that vegeans need to take to live.

ANd those supplements are usually(if not almost have to be) made with animal products.. for example vitamin B12 is usually derived from animal sources... then there are animal products use in the manufacturing of many items that use every single day

[Aaron]

ANd those supplements are usually(if not almost have to be) made with animal products.. for example vitamin B12 is usually derived from animal sources... then there are animal products use in the manufacturing of many items that use every single day

Really?............Well I believe I will research this and bring it to the attention of my vegean sister. She'll be horrified to learn that she continues to oppress her animal breathern.