[Ahurazithramis]

Ahurazithramis · Post by **Ahurazithramis** » 2005-05-07 03:28am

Nothing wrong with that. After all, there was alot less nitpicking back when fundamentalism began.

Split from this thread by RedImperator. This is the thread which led to Ahurazithramis's banning.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2005-05-07 03:31am

Ahurazithramis wrote:As for what christianity thinks about witchcraft: It doesn't matter. What does matter is that we shouldn't have to have anything to do with witchcraft. Forcing us to involve ourselves in that would be like a jew being forced to eat pork or shrimp.

As Jewish folk have learned to basically ignore pork in supermarket, so can Christians learn to turn the other cheek to Pagan prayers.

Ahurazithramis · Post by **Ahurazithramis** » 2005-05-07 03:33am

That doesn't work. A mage giving their prayers would(or might) endanger us, a christian giving our prayers would not.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2005-05-07 03:38am

Ahurazithramis wrote:That doesn't work. A mage giving their prayers would(or might) endanger us, a christian giving our prayers would not.

A Christian giving our prayers would (or might) endanger us! What if Thor became jealous, and smote them with a bolt of lightning?

Post by **Gandalf** » 2005-05-07 03:38am

Ahurazithramis wrote:That doesn't work. A mage giving their prayers would(or might) endanger us, a christian giving our prayers would not.

... are you some kind of moron?

Your narrow minded views aren't enough justification to curtail religious freedoms.

Thinkmarble · Post by **Thinkmarble** » 2005-05-07 03:39am

Ahurazithramis wrote:That doesn't work. A mage giving their prayers would(or might) endanger us, a christian giving our prayers would not.

In other words christian prayers have no effect ?
*amused*

Seriously get your facts straight, bein a wicca does not mean being a witch, two different concepts.

Ahurazithramis · Post by **Ahurazithramis** » 2005-05-07 03:40am

Trouble is, the pagan deities have the same mentality as the worshipers. They don't care. It's not about God being jealous, it's about dancing on swords expecting not to get cut.

Ahurazithramis · Post by **Ahurazithramis** » 2005-05-07 03:41am

Thinkmarble wrote:
Ahurazithramis wrote:That doesn't work. A mage giving their prayers would(or might) endanger us, a christian giving our prayers would not.
In other words christian prayers have no effect ?
*amused*

Seriously get your facts straight, bein a wicca does not mean being a witch, two different concepts.

I know. The Bible's instruction was to have absolutely nothing to do with a witch. Wicca and witchcraft may not be the same but it has to do quite a lot with witchcraft.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2005-05-07 03:42am

Ahurazithramis wrote:That doesn't work. A mage giving their prayers would(or might) endanger us, a christian giving our prayers would not.

What the fuck did you do, roll for stupidity? Mages and whatnot have no real power and theres no proof that supports any claim otherwise. Stop pulling this "omgz, teh mages are teh doom" and "everything, even secularism is a religion!" bullshit. Are you going to claim that atheism is a religion, too?

As already stated, the government and religion are supposed to remain seperate from one another. This is what Thomas Jefferson wanted and what is right and proper. Anything else is unsuitable.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2005-05-07 03:42am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Ahurazithramis wrote:That doesn't work. A mage giving their prayers would(or might) endanger us, a christian giving our prayers would not.
A Christian giving our prayers would (or might) endanger us! What if Thor became jealous, and smote them with a bolt of lightning?

Ahurazithramis · Post by **Ahurazithramis** » 2005-05-07 03:45am

Aya wrote:
Ahurazithramis wrote:That doesn't work. A mage giving their prayers would(or might) endanger us, a christian giving our prayers would not.
What the fuck did you do, roll for stupidity? Mages and whatnot have no real power and theres no proof that supports any claim otherwise. Stop pulling this "omgz, teh mages are teh doom" and "everything, even secularism is a religion!" bullshit. Are you going to claim that atheism is a religion, too?

As already stated, the government and religion are supposed to remain seperate from one another. This is what Thomas Jefferson wanted and what is right and proper. Anything else is unsuitable.

Thomas Jefferson wanted public funding for schools. The Thomas Jefferson described in the real world today is not as he was during the real world when he was alive.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2005-05-07 03:47am

Ahurazithramis wrote:
Aya wrote:
Ahurazithramis wrote:That doesn't work. A mage giving their prayers would(or might) endanger us, a christian giving our prayers would not.
What the fuck did you do, roll for stupidity? Mages and whatnot have no real power and theres no proof that supports any claim otherwise. Stop pulling this "omgz, teh mages are teh doom" and "everything, even secularism is a religion!" bullshit. Are you going to claim that atheism is a religion, too?

As already stated, the government and religion are supposed to remain seperate from one another. This is what Thomas Jefferson wanted and what is right and proper. Anything else is unsuitable.
Thomas Jefferson wanted public funding for schools. The Thomas Jefferson described in the real world today is not as he was during the real world when he was alive.

Nice red herring, assfuck. How about you address my post, instead of avoiding it?

Thinkmarble · Post by **Thinkmarble** » 2005-05-07 03:49am

Ahurazithramis wrote:Trouble is, the pagan deities have the same mentality as the worshipers. They don't care. It's not about God being jealous, it's about dancing on swords expecting not to get cut.

So you accept the existence of other gods beside God ?
And while I do not know much about Wicca, aside from it being a widely variant, mutable religion, I have to point out that one of the basic rules of it, is that one should not do any harm, and that any harm done will come back muliplied to haunt one.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2005-05-07 03:49am

Ahurazithramis wrote:Trouble is, the pagan deities have the same mentality as the worshipers. They don't care. It's not about God being jealous, it's about dancing on swords expecting not to get cut.

So you believe other gods exist?

Ahurazithramis · Post by **Ahurazithramis** » 2005-05-07 03:51am

There was no red herring. Old Thomas never meant anything about the Seperation between church and state that is going on today.[/quote]

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2005-05-07 03:51am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Ahurazithramis wrote:Trouble is, the pagan deities have the same mentality as the worshipers. They don't care. It's not about God being jealous, it's about dancing on swords expecting not to get cut.
So you believe other gods exist?

Which is bullshit. Everyone knows only the Old Ones and Cthulhu exist.

This guy has a VI or WTPF in his future.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2005-05-07 03:52am

Ahurazithramis wrote:America is going towards a theocratic nation : of "Secular" Humanism. People here on this thread do more than just have different opinions than christianity, they seem to close their minds from it as far as I can tell from this thread. Christians entire life is there religion. It would open your conciousness for communication if you understood that. If a witch or mage should deliver the invocation or whatever it's called, it would invite evil spirits to do their work. That spells danger. So to speak.

"If a witch or mage should deliver the invocation or whatever it's called, it would invite evil spirits to do their work. That spells danger."? Are you seriously fucking retarded?

No if some angsty whiney teen who picked wiccan to piss off mommy and daddy delivers their invocation, that means everyone else gets a few minutes of their life wasted. There is no such fucking thing as "evil spirits", and even if there was bad poetry and too much eyeshadow aren't going to summon them.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2005-05-07 03:54am

Aya wrote:
DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Ahurazithramis wrote:Trouble is, the pagan deities have the same mentality as the worshipers. They don't care. It's not about God being jealous, it's about dancing on swords expecting not to get cut.
So you believe other gods exist?
Which is bullshit. Everyone knows only the Old Ones and Cthulhu exist.

You blasphemy upsets and infuriates Ra. Please cease and desist.

Ahurazithramis · Post by **Ahurazithramis** » 2005-05-07 03:54am

Being a christian, yes, I can say there are evil spirits.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2005-05-07 03:54am

Ahurazithramis wrote:
I fail to see how Secular Humanism can be called a religion. The ONLY definition that can potentialy be applied is #4, but then again you could apply that to Football fans, and its obvious its not the proper definition.

So your making an ill-informed statement, not all that unusual from the religious elements.
It is not an ill-informed statement. Even the Supreme Court believes it is a religion. Definition number 3 would work, seeing as all things are spiritual.

By all means, explain how my shit is spiritual. Afterall, you said all things

Therefore, all Humanist teachers would be spiritual leaders. As for what christianity thinks about witchcraft: It doesn't matter. What does matter is that we shouldn't have to have anything to do with witchcraft. Forcing us to involve ourselves in that would be like a jew being forced to eat pork or shrimp.

And what exactly do you think christian prayer is to these wiccians?

Ahurazithramis · Post by **Ahurazithramis** » 2005-05-07 03:56am

Your shit is spiritual because while it was food it gave you life. Now let's not talk of shit any further.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2005-05-07 03:56am

Ahurazithramis wrote:Nothing wrong with that. After all, there was alot less nitpicking back when fundamentalism began.

There is nothing wrong with that? Are you serious? Tell you what child, go research exactly how bad things were 100 years ago. Try being irish, or black, or chinese. Try providing for your family. Try having health benefits, insurance, or an IRA from your job.

Or let's simplify it: Try getting an education so you see what a fool you are making of yourself.

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2005-05-07 03:57am

Ahurazithramis wrote:I know. The Bible's instruction was to have absolutely nothing to do with a witch. Wicca and witchcraft may not be the same but it has to do quite a lot with witchcraft.

Did you grind up the bible into little leafy bits and then smoke it? What is wrong with you? Wicca and Witchcraft may not be the same, but it has a lot to do with witchcraft? Do you exist only to troll here?

Thomas Jefferson wanted public funding for schools. The Thomas Jefferson described in the real world today is not as he was during the real world when he was alive.

What does that have to do with seperation of Church and State? Nothing. Complete change of topic.

Trouble is, the pagan deities have the same mentality as the worshipers. They don't care. It's not about God being jealous, it's about dancing on swords expecting not to get cut.

Because worshipping other gods of course gets people STRUCK DOWN all the time. I mean, I was walking through the street five minutes ago, and saw this decadent Buddhist recieve his smiting from the lord. Yeah, please. 'The Pegan deities'? Do you mean just the wiccan deal? Or all people who happen not to fall under the category of 'deities that start with G and end with D, has three letters, and otherwise enjoys a prominent letter O'?

That doesn't work. A mage giving their prayers would(or might) endanger us, a christian giving our prayers would not.

Note to self. Speak to that mage and ask for his +5 Staff. Maybe the phone number of Gandalf to strike you very, very hard. Goddess, begone foul troll! BEGONE! The power of reason compells you! The power of reason compells you!

Ahurazithramis · Post by **Ahurazithramis** » 2005-05-07 03:57am

It depends on the wiccan that thinks about our prayers.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2005-05-07 03:58am

Ahurazithramis wrote:That doesn't work. A mage giving their prayers would(or might) endanger us, a christian giving our prayers would not.

And how exacly would this endanger you? I can't see how it's any more dangerous then a livejournal. Same whiney crap.

And if you take this laughable claim of evil spirits at face value, how would christian prayers affect them?