[Ahurazithramis]

[Ahurazithramis]

In my nature and in my intellectual mind as well I can honestly say there is nothing weird about belief in spirits.

[Ender]

The evidence for the wind is similar to the evidence of spirits. I feel it against my body.

The evil spirits are pressing against your body. Right....

Now how about something other then a chickenshit dodge and some proof of these evil spirits?

That's not a dodge. It's me trying to explain how to know the spirits are there.

No, I asked for proof. You calim you can feel them. Not proof in the slightest. Ergo, a dodge.

By the way chuckles, if the evil spirits are currently molesting you, what does it matter if they get summoned or not? They are already here, might as well let the wiccians pray.

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

Try 100 years. The practical effect of the GOP programme for America would be to repeal the 20th century. They're trying to undo accomplishments brought forth by Theodore Roosevelt while at the same time regressing us to the days of that Old Tyme Religion (and that Olde Tyme Robber-Baron Captialism) of the 1880s.

Nothing wrong with that. After all, there was alot less nitpicking back when fundamentalism began.

So there's nothing wrong with coming onto your land with all my cronies, threatening to rape you and murder every last member of your family by torture if you don't immediately acquiesce to my demands, and selling every last piece of your entire estate to the highest bidder because I stand to make a profit off such a course of action? Wonderful. Shall we take the Troll up on his generous offer?

[Keevan_Colton]

Bugger this bullshit, this is getting flushed...Enjoy your reaming Mr. Christian-Prayer-Protects-Us-Everyoneelses-Is-Bad!!!!!!!!

[Ender]

In my nature and in my intellectual mind as well I can honestly say there is nothing weird about belief in spirits.

If you think there is nothing weird about believing in a phenomona that there is absolutely no proof for, you aren't much of an intellectual.

[Ahurazithramis]

That wasn't fundamentalism. That was doing unpleasant things to anyone who dared voice any deviation from the faith.

[Ahurazithramis]

In my nature and in my intellectual mind as well I can honestly say there is nothing weird about belief in spirits.

If you think there is nothing weird about believing in a phenomona that there is absolutely no proof for, you aren't much of an intellectual.

I have personal proof. I simply have no need of other proof so the voices say anyway, they also say that the moon is made of cheese, and I definetly dont need any other proof of that....oh, and pepsi and oil are actually the same thing....the truth is out there!!!!.

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

YEAH KEEV! BLOW IT UP AND HORSEMANIZE THE FUCKTARD! BURN THE ANTI-WITCH!

[Ahurazithramis]

Bugger this bullshit, this is getting flushed...Enjoy your reaming Mr. Christian-Prayer-Protects-Us-Everyoneelses-Is-Bad!!!!!!!!

You're not listening. I never said everyone else is bad. I never said anyone was bad, just unintentionally releasing demons on us all, get it right, I mean sheeesh, I say they're accidentally sicing demons on us, and that christian prayer doesnt do things like that...and you lot go thinking I'm saying something bad about the other lot...makes no sense to me, but then again the last time I saw occams razor, someone tried to slash me with it for being an "ignorant brain dead donkey fucking irrational fuckwit" so...

[Ender]

That wasn't fundamentalism. That was deviation from the faith.

No, actually, the dark ages and the taliban were followers of the faith to the letter. That's why it's so bad and secularism has let us thrive.

[Jason von Evil]

Wiccans worship nature, dipshit. I read a book about it.

Once again you are ignoring what I'm saying.

As I said before, they might not do it intentionaly, but any witchcraft invites demons, whether they want them to come or not.

Explain to me how worshiping dirt, air, fire, water and you know, the Earth is inviting demons?

By the way, you're the one throwing up red herrings and dodging rebuttals. Either provide evidence to back up your bullshit claims or concede that you're spouting nothing but bullshit.

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

In my nature and in my intellectual mind as well I can honestly say there is nothing weird about belief in spirits.

If you think there is nothing weird about believing in a phenomona that there is absolutely no proof for, you aren't much of an intellectual.

I have personal proof. I simply have no need of other proof.

Here we have need of scientifically verifiable proof. No possibility of proof? Sorry, out comes Occam's Razor!

[Ahurazithramis]

Wiccans worship nature, dipshit. I read a book about it.

Once again you are ignoring what I'm saying.

As I said before, they might not do it intentionaly, but any witchcraft invites demons, whether they want them to come or not.

Explain to me how worshiping dirt, air, fire, water and you know, the Earth is inviting demons?

By the way, you're the one throwing up red herrings and dodging rebuttals. Either provide evidence to back up your bullshit claims or concede that you're spouting nothing but bullshit.

Putting the Earth above God automaticaly elevates Satan above God. The universe in the Enemy's hands.

[Ender]

In my nature and in my intellectual mind as well I can honestly say there is nothing weird about belief in spirits.

If you think there is nothing weird about believing in a phenomona that there is absolutely no proof for, you aren't much of an intellectual.

I have personal proof. I simply have no need of other proof.

Wrong again boy wonder, you need other proof that can be verified. Look, can you imagine trying to pass this bullshit off in any other part of your life?

"I have personal proof that that check for one million dollars is good, I simply have no need of other proof"


And would you guys please give some time with the horsemanization? It's hard to argue this with you guys playing with your new toy. Can't you start from page 1 or something?

[Ender]

Once again you are ignoring what I'm saying.

As I said before, they might not do it intentionaly, but any witchcraft invites demons, whether they want them to come or not.

Explain to me how worshiping dirt, air, fire, water and you know, the Earth is inviting demons?

By the way, you're the one throwing up red herrings and dodging rebuttals. Either provide evidence to back up your bullshit claims or concede that you're spouting nothing but bullshit.

Putting the Earth above God automaticaly elevates Satan above God. The universe in the Enemy's hands.

This despite the fact that satan was banished to the pit, and god created the universe, eh?

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

Once again you are ignoring what I'm saying.

As I said before, they might not do it intentionaly, but any witchcraft invites demons, whether they want them to come or not.

Explain to me how worshiping dirt, air, fire, water and you know, the Earth is inviting demons?

By the way, you're the one throwing up red herrings and dodging rebuttals. Either provide evidence to back up your bullshit claims or concede that you're spouting nothing but bullshit.

Putting the Earth above God automaticaly elevates Satan above God. The universe in the Enemy's hands.

Are these entities you call 'God' and 'Satan' provable by science? In fact, is there any evidence whatsoever these two beings exist or have ever existed?

Sorry, shoulda saw this coming *SHING* ->SLICE!<-

[Ahurazithramis]

It has been proven to me through experience that spirits are real. It is odd that one would demand spiritual proof through the other side of a computer.

[Ahurazithramis]

Explain to me how worshiping dirt, air, fire, water and you know, the Earth is inviting demons?

By the way, you're the one throwing up red herrings and dodging rebuttals. Either provide evidence to back up your bullshit claims or concede that you're spouting nothing but bullshit.

Satan is free for the moment. He is in one of the Third Heavens. Not Hell yet.

Putting the Earth above God automaticaly elevates Satan above God. The universe in the Enemy's hands.

This despite the fact that satan was banished to the pit, and god created the universe, eh?

[Gandalf]

It has been proven to me through experience that spirits are real. It is odd that one would demand spiritual proof through the other side of a computer.

Drug trips do not constitute proof of spirits.

[Keevan_Colton]

And would you guys please give some time with the horsemanization? It's hard to argue this with you guys playing with your new toy. Can't you start from page 1 or something?

I've got to get to work in about 15 minutes...and all the fun will be done by the time I get back Just snip the color tags, we never remove a word they say these days...keeps the job challenging

[Ahurazithramis]

Putting the Earth above God automaticaly elevates Satan above God. The universe in the Enemy's hands.

This despite the fact that satan was banished to the pit, and god created the universe, eh?

Satan is free for the moment. He is in one of the Third Heavens. Not Hell yet.

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

It has been proven to me through experience that spirits are real. It is odd that one would demand spiritual proof through the other side of a computer.

Okay, show us EMPIRICAL PROOF that these spirits are real, not something like my Invisible Jupiter-size Homosexual Pink Dragon with Antipurple Polkadots™.

[Jason von Evil]

Once again you are ignoring what I'm saying.

As I said before, they might not do it intentionaly, but any witchcraft invites demons, whether they want them to come or not.

Explain to me how worshiping dirt, air, fire, water and you know, the Earth is inviting demons?

By the way, you're the one throwing up red herrings and dodging rebuttals. Either provide evidence to back up your bullshit claims or concede that you're spouting nothing but bullshit.

Putting the Earth above God automaticaly elevates Satan above God. The universe in the Enemy's hands.

They don't believe in God in the first place, so they don't really give a flying fuck. If I remember correctly, "Satan" is the opposite force to the wiccan's goddess. So no, they don't elevate "Satan" over anyone.

And its called freedom of motherfucking religion. People can worship who or what they want. If they want to worship god, they can. If they want to worship nature, they can. If they want to worship demons, they can. Hell, if they want to worship the almighty Vorlon God Bujji, they sure as fucking hell can! You or anyone else, for that matter, has any right to deem who or what someone can and can't worship. Don't like it? Deal.

[Ender]

It has been proven to me through experience that spirits are real. It is odd that one would demand spiritual proof through the other side of a computer.

Obviously there should be a way for you to relate said experience, or show evidence from said experience, or a description as to how we should find evidence on our own (eg a web link)

It's called the scientific method. Step 1: Collect data.

Oh, and

By the way chuckles, if the evil spirits are currently molesting you, what does it matter if they get summoned or not? They are already here, might as well let the wiccians pray.

Still waiting for a response.

[Bob the Gunslinger]

Sounds like someone's been reading too much MacGregor Mathers Golden Dawn/Hermetic Qabbala stuff.