1,000 AT-ATs vs a BOLO Mk.XXXIII

[Uraniun235]

blast the Bolo into slag after jamming the Bolo's sensors with
ECM.....

Bolos are quite accustomed to electronic warfare. And who's to say the AT-ATs won't be jammed by the Bolo?

[MKSheppard]

Bolos are quite accustomed to electronic warfare. And who's to say the AT-ATs won't be jammed by the Bolo?

Except in Star Wars, ECM is so damn HEAVY it actually INHIBITS the
movement of ships.....why do you think they rely on visual so much?

[[BL]Phalanx]

Except in Star Wars, ECM is so damn HEAVY it actually INHIBITS the
movement of ships.....why do you think they rely on visual so much?

That's in space, isn't it? And it uses more than just EW gear as we would think of it.

Is that used on the ground? Have we observed or heard mentioned that EW inhibits movement of units on the ground?

[MKSheppard]

And where are you getting this thing about AT-AT's shooting down stuff moving at 1000 KPH from?

The Scene in ESB where the AT AT swats a snowspeeder aside with a snap
shot that blows it away...

Exactly why the AT-ATs die horribly.

That is a LOW Range estimate, and you forget the AT ATs have the
advantage of numbers and if they have a competent commander,
they win over the Bolo, which can only be in one place at once.

[SylasGaunt]

The Scene in ESB where the AT AT swats a snowspeeder aside with a snap
shot that blows it away...

Funny it certainly didn't look like it was about to break the sound barrier. Of course you're also assuming the Bolo's using a slow ass missile.

That is a LOW Range estimate, and you forget the AT ATs have the advantage of numbers and if they have a competent commander,
they win over the Bolo, which can only be in one place at once.

As I recall the longest distance we've seen AT-ATs engage at is 17 kilometers. The Bolo outranges them by QUITE a bit.

And AT-ATs get shredded by starfighter grade lasers which are low kiloton range last-time I looked, they won't stand up to the kind of firepower a Mk. 33 can send downrange.

Furthermore the only way the AT-ATs are going to get in range to engage the Bolo is if it lets them, and even if they do manage somehow the whole way in they're going to be taking losses from Hellbore, howitzer, mortar, and missile fire.

And according to Bolo Strike the battlescreens of a heavily damaged Mk. 33 (and these screens were none to much time earlier operating at I think only 20 or 30%) have a surge rating of at least 8.4 megatons.

[His Divine Shadow]

Really, what kind of name is "AT-AT"? Sounds like a Chinese sneeze...

Thats only if you say wrongly, its A.T.-A.T.

[His Divine Shadow]

This is a thousand AT-AT's, can the Bolo really destroy all of them before they get into range?

[SylasGaunt]

Yes due to the simple fact that they can't get into range. The Bolo's just too fast for them to catch up to (especially given the starting positions, the Bolo can just turn around and head the other way while laying down a barrage of missiles, shells, and hellbore rounds (provided LOS allows for it).

[EmperorMing]

Come to think of it, wouldn't a nuke launched by the Bolo just blow an AT-AT over on its side???

Problem solved, just pop a few into their formation and mop up whatever is standing...

[SylasGaunt]

Come to think of it, wouldn't a nuke launched by the Bolo just blow an AT-AT over on its side???

Problem solved, just pop a few into their formation and mop up whatever is standing...

And then run over what isn't

[MKSheppard]

Yes due to the simple fact that they can't get into range. The Bolo's just too fast for them to catch up to (especially given the starting positions, the Bolo can just turn around and head the other way while laying down a barrage of missiles, shells, and hellbore rounds (provided LOS allows for it).

Then the AT ATs reduce it to slag with hundreds of well aimed blaster bolts
the moment it breaks LOS.

Face the facts, a Bolo is only useful against people with lower than SW level
tech.

[[BL]Phalanx]

Then the AT ATs reduce it to slag with hundreds of well aimed blaster bolts
the moment it breaks LOS.

Face the facts, a Bolo is only useful against people with lower than SW level
tech.

Not really. Bolos fight enemy units in their own universe that likewise sling KT to MT ranged weaponry. So that level of firepower isn't unexpected.

In addition, Bolos are intelligent, and will make use of terrain features. They also move and evade fairly well because of their reaction times. That's why they're able to duel starships in orbit and give a good accounting of themselves, surviving many return shots even though a single hit from the starship will destroy it.

You know, it would help if you tried to find out more about Bolos on your own.

[MKSheppard]

You know, it would help if you tried to find out more about Bolos on your own.

*points to scores of KEITH LAUMER novels on his bookshelf*

Try again, asshat. I like the Bolos, but against 1,000 AT ATs, there
is no way they'll win. That's like saying the Maus can defeat over
1,000 T-34s...

[MKSheppard]

I really like the bolos, but at times, it seems that the writers deliberately
make the Bolos' enemies to be so stupid in order for teh bolos to kill them.

The one thing that generally saves the books is the fact that in the end,
the Bolo is usually scrap metal, glowing white hot from all the rads, rather
than having one minor dent in the fender, as a anime mecha would have...

[[BL]Phalanx]

You know, it would help if you tried to find out more about Bolos on your own.

*points to scores of KEITH LAUMER novels on his bookshelf*

Try again, asshat. I like the Bolos, but against 1,000 AT ATs, there
is no way they'll win. That's like saying the Maus can defeat over
1,000 T-34s...

Then why'd you say Bolos are only useful against enemies with lower than SW level tech? You especially made a big deal about the KT-level yields of SW Starfighter weapons...

I don't have a position on whether or not the Bolo would win. My impression was that you thought the Bolo would be rolled over easily.

What is the top speed of AT-AT's, and what is the speed of the energy bolts they fire? The Bolo may well have fast enough reflexes and agility to dodge at longer distances, if the bolts are slow enough. Closer-in, though, and the Bolo would be hit if the shot was aimed right.

On the other hand, if the AT-AT's can't keep up with the Bolo in the first place, it can keep the distance open for a long time.

[Zoink]

Not really. Bolos fight enemy units in their own universe that likewise sling KT to MT ranged weaponry. So that level of firepower isn't unexpected.

even though a single hit from the starship will destroy it.

So will a megaton range weapon destroy the Bolo or not?

[SylasGaunt]

Megaton range will do it, but it's got to be up there.

And AT-ATs certainly didn't have megaton range weapons last time I looked.

The AT-AT top speed is IIRC 60 KPH, which means the Bolo and its remote tanks are going to be able to run rings around them and a hit from even the smaller hellbores will be more than enough to scrap an AT-AT (nevermind the solution of a full nuclear bombardment dropping on their heads).

[Howedar]

If the missiles truly have great enough range to threaten things on the other side of a planet, they could likely approach the AT-ATs from the rear, meaning they couldn't be shot down.

[Uraniun235]

Wait, if AT-ATs have such shit-hot targeting, why the hell did so many landspeeders stay in the air for so long?

Besides which, the missiles could easily approach the AT-ATs from straight up; I seriously doubt they can stretch their necks that high.

[SylasGaunt]

If the missiles truly have great enough range to threaten things on the other side of a planet, they could likely approach the AT-ATs from the rear, meaning they couldn't be shot down.

Correction, they have enough range to go around to the other side of the planet and cruise around waiting for some unsuspecting target to wander into sight.

[[BL]Phalanx]

So will a megaton range weapon destroy the Bolo or not?

Like it's already been answered, yes. But it's high-MT range. Keep in mind that the starships are a lot bigger than a bolo.

[EmperorMing]

Come to think of it, wouldn't a nuke launched by the Bolo just blow an AT-AT over on its side???

Problem solved, just pop a few into their formation and mop up whatever is standing...

And then run over what isn't

Honestly, if an AT-AT is standing that tall, a nuke would blow it over on its side. Then you could just run over it...

[SylasGaunt]

And the Bolo's certainly big enough to run over the remains (it's as tall as the AT-AT.. of course that puts the Hellbores at the perfect height to aim for the head )

[Vympel]

Ok ... Bolo? What kind of dumb fucked up name is that ... Bolo

OOOOOOOOhhhh im scared, the Bolo is coming!!!

Sounds like Bolo the clown ...

I believe it was named after the knife:

http://www.edmfknives.com/page6.html

A several tens of thousand of tons combat vehicle named after ... a knife. Right.

[Vympel]

Ok ... Bolo? What kind of dumb fucked up name is that ... Bolo

OOOOOOOOhhhh im scared, the Bolo is coming!!!

"A rose by any other name..."

Really, what kind of name is "AT-AT"? Sounds like a Chinese sneeze...

Because it's an acronym, your analogy fails. Why don't we call it Bozo instead; that will make it sound much cooler