Most Convincing Paranormal Event

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2005-05-09 03:28am

The mouldy bread with Jezus face offcourse

Seriously, I once saw a small, multicolored glowing orb flying irregulary behind the window for a full 30 seconds before it left. Like a probe or something. That was pretty tense

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2005-05-09 04:54am

Everything has a logical reason that can/will be explained by science. Just because I don't understand it at that time does not mean I'm going to listen to, or invent some off the wall explanation for myself.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2005-05-09 04:58am

Also, a while ago I saw a documentary that showed a rather barren plain with a rather odd sighting. Don't remember a lot (not even in which country it was) but this I still remember:

- the main vegetation of the plains is low grass
- there were cirkles (perfect round iirc) where absolutely nothing could grow
- only the border of these barren cirkles, the grass was a lot higher than the grass that covered the plains.

Anyone knows what I'm talkng about? Is the mystery solved by now?

Post by **weemadando** » 2005-05-09 05:35am

Some of the pseudo-paranormal shit that comes out of the "primal/tribal" regions of Asia, South America and Africa. I've heard some FUCKED UP stories of stuff that happens around there, mainly from people who "were there". Things like "possession" of sorts - a small city girl on a school camp to the jungle in Malaysia suddenly starts speaking the local tribal dialect flawlessly, and is tossing around her far larger male classmates like rag dolls while the local priest sorted shit out. A lot of these stories are also linked to fuck with your mind drugs/events.

Also, one of my friends from Malaysia has some really awesome tales of his father's school (his dad is a principal), which was built on the site of a former Japanese prison camp. Things like having a guy in full WW2 japanese uniform, with weapon walking around on the sports field like he was patrolling, then just vanishing.

Ghosts area strange topic for me. I don't really believe in them, but just sometimes I get an AMAZINGLY bad vibe from places. But thats just the good old human mind, right?

JointStrikeFighter · Post by **JointStrikeFighter** » 2005-05-09 05:53am

Ghosts area strange topic for me. I don't really believe in them, but just sometimes I get an AMAZINGLY bad vibe from places. But thats just the good old human mind, right?

In my mind? Yes. Hell i get a bad vibe from going under high tension powerlines, simply becuase of all the fearmongering about them by the media, none of which i rationaly believe in.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2005-05-09 06:09am

weemadando wrote:
Also, one of my friends from Malaysia has some really awesome tales of his father's school (his dad is a principal), which was built on the site of a former Japanese prison camp. Things like having a guy in full WW2 japanese uniform, with weapon walking around on the sports field like he was patrolling, then just vanishing.

Didnt they found a lost Japanese platoon that tought the war was still going on in the middle of some jungle some years ago?

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2005-05-09 07:04am

weemadando wrote: Ghosts area strange topic for me. I don't really believe in them, but just sometimes I get an AMAZINGLY bad vibe from places. But thats just the good old human mind, right?

Yeah, so far, I've heard two explanations for this: 1) the shape and layout of a place (for instance some caves, or some corridors in an insane asylum at night) can inadvertantly put you on guard. It's a primal response and you don't really have any control over it. 2) Your brain creates a magnetic field from its workings, that actually extends outside your head. This field can actually effect what's going on in your brain too, and you can change it with varying magnetic fields. Magnetic fields around the head have been seen to cause hallucination, a sense of someone else "being there," fear of that person that isn't there, and a feeling that that nonexistent person is benevolent.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2005-05-09 07:11am

Infrasound's also said to cause that sensation where you feel cold, get gooseflesh and have the hair on the back of your necks stand.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2005-05-09 07:15am

Closest i've come is the several times i find my toothbrush in my bedroom when i always leave it in the bathroom.

Then there was the time years ago when my brother was watching some sppoky tv show and he was well shitted out by this wierd tapping on the window when there was nothing there. Well, except for my dad leaning out of the room above with a stick. You should have seen my brothers face.

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba · Post by **Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba** » 2005-05-09 09:38am

I've had a couple brilliantly weird experiences that FOX and the Space channel would really love to do trashy documentaries on.

Before I star I should mention that my bedroom in my family's old house always creeped me out. Maybe it was just the layout, the largeness of the ley-lines(

), but I never felt comfortable in there and always got paranoid of ghosts and aliens and stuff- I read far too many books for my own good back then.

Once, I remember waking up sore all over, and I felt a weird tingling sensation on the nape of my neck and my wrists. Later examination would reveal small 'spots' on my body at those locations. I looked out my window just then and saw a sort of glowy rod-shaped thingie, orange and bright green, maybe a foot across, which then seemed to just zip away out of my sight in less than a second.
My best explanation is that I probably sleep-walked or rolled over in bed too much, causing my soreness, and I might have bumped my wrists and neck, which may have been part of the cause for a hallucination of a flying glowing probe when I was just barely awake. Somewhat implausibe, but moreso than aliens experimenting on the future Emperor of Terra and letting him know they came.

Some other time I remember I was just sitting on the couch watching something, and the mat I was on just sorta started floating above the rest of the coach about a meter or so above the floor I felt as if I couldn't physically force myseld off of the mat, and it felt completely like it was on a solid surface and not in the air.. Then it set down. I'm not sure what to make of that one.

That NOS Guy · Post by **That NOS Guy** » 2005-05-09 11:20am

There was a shadow walking along my wall when I was about 10.

Yeah, yeah I know I'm going to get the whole "Lights and shaows" lecture but seriously, there was a 7 foot tall shadow on my wall, creeping towards my bed.

Just grabed the wooden cross next to my bed and started praying, it went away shortly after (the power of christ does compel you!). If there's anything that's convinced me that there's angels and demons in this world, it's that.

On a silly note: my father always recants this story about angels heralding my birth, I think he neded to get more sleep that night.

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2005-05-09 11:39am

weemadando wrote:Ghosts area strange topic for me. I don't really believe in them, but just sometimes I get an AMAZINGLY bad vibe from places. But thats just the good old human mind, right?

Generally. Don't feel bad, however; some of the most entertained we can be is by being scared by something that can't hurt us, and then laughing or being amazed by it later.

Think of ghostly experiences as attending nature's magic show; you know it's all sleight of hand and illusion, but you can enjoy being fooled. Even the most die-hard skeptics often get a guilty pleasure when they get spooked by leaping shadows. I personally broke a land speed record getting the hell out of dodge in a reputedly 'haunted' house in Newcastle, Ontario when half a set of otherwise well-balanced dining room chairs promptly fell over without warning.

Bob the Gunslinger · Post by **Bob the Gunslinger** » 2005-05-09 07:48pm

I've had a few occasion when I could have sworn that I'd just been abducted or that aliens had just been standing over me a moment before. I think the explanation goes back to my first memory, a long surgery that I had when I was two years old, which causes a certain gut fear of medical procedures and abduction from my family. Thank God I've never had sleep paralysis, because I probably would have died from fright.

I've also had some extremely vivid precog moments that might be some virulently retroactive deja vu, but I truly believed that I had known I was going to get hit by a car a week before it actually happened. I also "foresaw" some events involving my best friend and my brother, one of which was simply my friend coining a term that would drive us to histerical giggles for years afterward.

Probably just some interesting psychological abnormalities.

Post by **weemadando** » 2005-05-09 08:06pm

I had a fucked up "precog" dream years ago (about 96 or thereabouts). I dreamt I was some UN relief worker, and the dream started with us landing in a C-130 on some runway in (I forget the name of the country - IIRC it was Turkey). There'd been a big earthquake and help was needed in search and rescue. Cut forward a bit and we've rescued a bunch of people from ruins, but we unearth a mother and a baby, both dead.

I wake up in the morning, go downstairs to have breakfast, turn on the radio - There's been an earthquake in that specific country, and the only fatalities were a mother and baby. Freaked me right the hell out.

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba · Post by **Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba** » 2005-05-09 09:24pm

Oh, precog- Jesus, I've been creeped out by that. Often I'll dream something, and of course it'll fall to the back of my head, until eventually something's happening exactly as I remember it in the dream. And I'll think, "Hey, and next such-and-such is going to happen, and I'm to going to say such-and-such." And often, the entire scenario plays out just as I imagine it will. Freakadelic, dudes!

Quadlok · Post by **Quadlok** » 2005-05-09 09:37pm

wautd wrote:Also, a while ago I saw a documentary that showed a rather barren plain with a rather odd sighting. Don't remember a lot (not even in which country it was) but this I still remember:

- the main vegetation of the plains is low grass
- there were cirkles (perfect round iirc) where absolutely nothing could grow
- only the border of these barren cirkles, the grass was a lot higher than the grass that covered the plains.

Anyone knows what I'm talkng about? Is the mystery solved by now?

Sounds like it could be one of two things, either a fungus/bacteria that produces a toxin, but also some sort of nutrient that seeps out a bit more, or a spring, and nothing grows there because, for some odd reason, there aren't any plants around there that can stand very wet soil.

On a completely different note, I thnk we all have the 'this happened in a dream, and you're about to say x' moments. Don't know why, though.

Tasoth · Post by **Tasoth** » 2005-05-09 10:00pm

My biggest problem is I'm too creative and let my mind get away with myself. Although I did have sleep paralysis once and it scared the fa-jesus out of me.

wolveraptor · Post by **wolveraptor** » 2005-05-10 01:50am

Rye wrote:
weemadando wrote: Ghosts area strange topic for me. I don't really believe in them, but just sometimes I get an AMAZINGLY bad vibe from places. But thats just the good old human mind, right?
Yeah, so far, I've heard two explanations for this: 1) the shape and layout of a place (for instance some caves, or some corridors in an insane asylum at night) can inadvertantly put you on guard. It's a primal response and you don't really have any control over it. 2) Your brain creates a magnetic field from its workings, that actually extends outside your head. This field can actually effect what's going on in your brain too, and you can change it with varying magnetic fields. Magnetic fields around the head have been seen to cause hallucination, a sense of someone else "being there," fear of that person that isn't there, and a feeling that that nonexistent person is benevolent.

God I hate that feeling. Always looking over your shoulder, mistaking your own shadow for someone else's, hearing every floor creak like a tree-falling.

As a side note, is there a relationship between this and paranoia?

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2005-05-10 02:23am

Quadlok wrote:
wautd wrote:Also, a while ago I saw a documentary that showed a rather barren plain with a rather odd sighting. Don't remember a lot (not even in which country it was) but this I still remember:

- the main vegetation of the plains is low grass
- there were cirkles (perfect round iirc) where absolutely nothing could grow
- only the border of these barren cirkles, the grass was a lot higher than the grass that covered the plains.

Anyone knows what I'm talkng about? Is the mystery solved by now?
Sounds like it could be one of two things, either a fungus/bacteria that produces a toxin, but also some sort of nutrient that seeps out a bit more, or a spring, and nothing grows there because, for some odd reason, there aren't any plants around there that can stand very wet soil.

Well, the point was that scientists already looked after those things but still couldnt find a reason. There was also no physical difference between the dead soil and the soil that had grass on it.
(perhaps by now they solvde the case, altough the docu was pretty recent)

Macross · Post by **Macross** » 2005-05-10 02:36am

I have had "precog dreams" before. The one that really stands out to me is a series of dreams that I had several years ago when I started having reoccuring nightmares about the Space Shuttle. In these dreams the Space Shuttle was hit by a falling object during lift-off and subsequntly destroyed. However in my dreams the shuttle was usually destroyed instantaneously after being hit. Needless to say, I was really creeped about what happened to the Columbia. I havent had one of those dreams since...

JointStrikeFighter · Post by **JointStrikeFighter** » 2005-05-10 03:08am

I've also had a freaky diaster pre-cog dream.

Christmas night i had a dream that i was in bali and there had been an 6.8 magnitude earthquake and a tsunami was on the way.
Next day I woke up to the news of the tsunami.

Though I got a pretty reasonable explantion.
1. I was watching a documentary about bali a few days earlier.
and
2. There had been a 6.8magnitude earthquake of the coast of australia a week before and i'd seen the stroy on the news

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2005-05-10 04:04am

The thing with precog dreams is that over the many hours you've spent dreaming, and then forgotten, there's got to be a few seconds which match up to real life later on and remind you of them. The other thing is that a shitload of information goes through your mind without you ever consciously realising it, so you might be influenced by information about something, dream about it, then receive the information again and think you somehow 'knew it before'.

I haven't had any truly freaky experiences, but i have had panic attacks/sleep paralysis happen about a dozen times in the past, and i swear, if you'd have walked into my room right after the paralysis gave way, i'd have honestly tried to kill you, the fight-or-flight absolute terror just changes my mind for a few seconds and i'll believe anything's possible. Ghosts, monsters, demons, anything. It's like walking across the street and suddenly seeing a massive, unbelievably loud truck about to slam straight into you.

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2005-05-10 08:20am

wautd wrote:Well, the point was that scientists already looked after those things but still couldnt find a reason. There was also no physical difference between the dead soil and the soil that had grass on it.
(perhaps by now they solvde the case, altough the docu was pretty recent)

Any time a TV SHOW says the phrase, "scientists examined X paranormal activity but couldn't find a cause", you should ask questions until your throat hurts, starting with 'which scientists'.

One of the first things you learn if you decide to take up professional ghost hunting (or folklore studies) is that almost no credible scientists will touch paranormal investigations. So the people who end up doing research are rarely actual scientists, but individuals with 'degrees' in paranormal studies who call themselves scientists, wear lab coats and use lots of big words.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2005-05-10 08:38am

Lagmonster wrote:
wautd wrote:Well, the point was that scientists already looked after those things but still couldnt find a reason. There was also no physical difference between the dead soil and the soil that had grass on it.
(perhaps by now they solvde the case, altough the docu was pretty recent)
Any time a TV SHOW says the phrase, "scientists examined X paranormal activity but couldn't find a cause", you should ask questions until your throat hurts, starting with 'which scientists'.

iirc, it was on National Geographic and they showed a well equipped lab

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2005-05-10 08:57am

I've got two experiences:

1) I saw a Military Test Helicopter one night, mistook it for a UFO mostly because: 1) It made a strange noise that one would equate to a science-fiction spacefaring vehicle leaving the atmosphere; 2) it appeared to move at a fantastic rate (maybe it was the angle in which I saw it, or something else, but that thing moves like the damn blazes!) 3) The entire thing appeared to be glowing (or there were so many lights that they merged together--either through proximity or speed). Next day, there was an article about the aircraft test in the paper. I'm still skeptical about the whole incident, mostly because I didn't read the article about the aircraft test (what can I say, it was a school day, I didn't have time)

2) I saw an animal in lake Champlain. From what I've been able to accertain, it was a River Otter. Now, what the hell a River Otter was doing in Lake Champlain is a bit beyond me, but it was pretty nifty.