Thoughts on this bullshit? (If it hasn't been posted already)Can The World of Star Trek Help Americans Understand Muslims and their Culture of Terror?
True Christian™ Star Trek fan, and Sunday School teacher, Geoffrey Mullins, thinks so. Most fans of the popular television series, Star Trek, are already aware that the show's creator, Gene Roddenberry, gathered ideas for his fictional Klingon species during a trip to the Holy Land in the late 1960's. After only a cursory viewing of an early episode of Star Trek, Landover Baptist Pastors were shocked at how closely Roddenberry's Klingon characters resembled Arabs, in both their features and mannerisms. "I'm not a big fan of Mr. Roddenberry," says Landover Baptist Pastor, Deacon Fred. "But our opinions are very similar when it comes to Muslims. Being a Jew, Mr. Roddenberry knew first hand what it was like to be persecuted by such a filthy, backward race of warmongers. My guess is that he couldn't come right out and say what he felt in public, so he used the television series, Star Trek, to get his views across. Only an unsaved idiot would have a hard time seeing how obvious it is that Star Trek's, Klingons, are actually Arabs in disguise. I understand it's harder to tell with the new series, because they started to get politically correct and had to change the makeup so it wasn't so obvious. Well, you don't need a degree in Theology to see how clear it still is. In fact, I think the new makeup does an even better job of bringing out the demonic nature and character of the Arab people."
Sunday School teacher, Geoffrey Mullins, has incorporated several Klingon-filled Star Trek episodes into an eight-week Bible based media study on Muslim culture and behavior. Landover Baptist is the first church to use Geoffrey's study in their senior high school Department. "Our Christian children are getting most of their information about Arabs and Muslims from the media," says Mullins, "and the media is biased toward Muslims. It often paints them in a positive light. What we like about Star Trek is that they just tell it like it is. The show's writers don't tip-toe around the negative facts about Muslim behavior. They don't even try to hide how silly the Muslim religion is, or how Arab people, for the most part, are nothing more than a pack of bloodthirsty dogs, hell-bent on destruction. Star Trek even accurately depicts the Arab language as something that sounds more like a baboon trying to hack up a ball of phlegm than it does someone trying to communicate using words."
Students are coming away from the Sunday school program with fact-based knowledge about Arabs that they can use in the real world. They are excited about what they are learning and are very vocal about it. One student remarked, "Arabs drink wine made from blood, and they are always talking about killing people, and how much they hate everyone else, and how glorious it would be to die in battle. Saddam Hussein does the same thing, only he doesn't have a funny shaped forehead." Another student argued, "Arabs won't ever change, not even a million years from now. They will always be uncivilized. They eat platters full of live snakes, for crying out loud! Yuck!" Yet another student pointed out, "Even after an Arab like "Worf" was integrated into civilized culture, he still struggles with his basic animal instincts and he has all sorts of stupid religious baggage he can't let go of. I don't see how the rest of the crew can trust him; they act like a bunch of liberals. I'd never turn my back, if I was on that ship."
Studies show that Mullins' Star Trek seminars help keep the short attention span of Christian high school students in check. Students are so interested in the television show, that horseplay during Sunday school has decreased by nearly 87%. Mullins reports that nearly all students attending his classes can successfully answer over 100 complicated questions about Muslim behavior and mating habits after the program is over.
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Re: Sunday School, Muslims and Star Trek
Me i always thought they resemble more Monghol WarriorsJon wrote:Landover Baptist Pastors were shocked at how closely Roddenberry's Klingon characters resembled Arabs, in both their features and mannerisms.
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Landover Baptist is right up there with The Onion for mocking-the-moron goodness.
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It's the Christians who should be embarrassed. They're the ones that are so fucked up in their beliefs that they're resembling this. Back years ago when someone posted a LB article about the Scooby Doo movie being homosexual propoganda another poster fell into the same trap.Jon wrote:Losonti Tokash wrote:Dude, that's Landover Baptist. It's a parody.
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Those Landover Baptist guys are comedic geniuses. But it really can become hard to distinguish between parody and reality with fundies. I remember once sitting through a church sermon where the minister spent pretty much the whole sermon talking about how the Star Wars movies were actually an insidious plot to brainwash young Christian children with "Eastern views of religion" and turn them away from Christ. The guy was dead serious, and talked about how George Lucas had links to secretive cult societies and was part of a global conspiracy against Christianity.
PS. It should be noted that this minister was a guest speaker from Texas.
PS. It should be noted that this minister was a guest speaker from Texas.
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i used to have some nutjob teacher (when i had the unpleasant experience of going to a religious school for a year) who felt star wars was anti-christian, because apparently luke turning against Darth Vader and the Emperor was somehow supposed to be analogous to jesus rebelling against god or some such nonsense.Darth Wong wrote:Those Landover Baptist guys are comedic geniuses. But it really can become hard to distinguish between parody and reality with fundies. I remember once sitting through a church sermon where the minister spent pretty much the whole sermon talking about how the Star Wars movies were actually an insidious plot to brainwash young Christian children with "Eastern views of religion" and turn them away from Christ. The guy was dead serious, and talked about how George Lucas had links to secretive cult societies and was part of a global conspiracy against Christianity.
PS. It should be noted that this minister was a guest speaker from Texas.
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quick edit: and she was totally serious about her stance too, which is both at the same time sad and amusing.. (*kicks self for not adding this in before hitting submit*)
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When I was in Confirmation, I asked my fundie youth-leader-person if God frowned on an author writing about other religions. Her response was "Why would you want to tempt yourself?" You see, everything, everywhere, is a part of the Evil Atheist Conspiracy. Every movie you see that isn't Veggietales, every book you read that isn't the Bible, every article of clothing you wear that doesn't have scripture on it, is tainted by the influence of the secular culture. The fundies need their followers to think and feel in a very narrow, precise way, and exposure to stimulus outside their control reduces their power.Darth Wong wrote:Those Landover Baptist guys are comedic geniuses. But it really can become hard to distinguish between parody and reality with fundies. I remember once sitting through a church sermon where the minister spent pretty much the whole sermon talking about how the Star Wars movies were actually an insidious plot to brainwash young Christian children with "Eastern views of religion" and turn them away from Christ. The guy was dead serious, and talked about how George Lucas had links to secretive cult societies and was part of a global conspiracy against Christianity.
PS. It should be noted that this minister was a guest speaker from Texas.
That's part of what gives this article away as a parody. Fundies almost can't endorse something that they themselves haven't made; they are always and forever party poopers. True Believers would zoom in on all the pluralistic messages and God-is-a-hoax themes in Star Trek. I imagine "The Apple" would be particularly loathsome.
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I take it she didn't quite get the bit about how Darth Vader and the Emperor were the bad guys.Darth_Zod wrote:i used to have some nutjob teacher (when i had the unpleasant experience of going to a religious school for a year) who felt star wars was anti-christian, because apparently luke turning against Darth Vader and the Emperor was somehow supposed to be analogous to jesus rebelling against god or some such nonsense.
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And that's the thing-- I would so totally expect this from a Fundy group that I actually thought it was serious...
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In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
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Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
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That's one thing I've always found particularly annoying about the fundie breed... anything remotely religious (or even psuedo-religious) that doesn't tie into their particular flavor of Christianity is actually [scary voice]SATAN[/scary voice]. It's insulting and ignorant.PainRack wrote:Reminds me of when my classmate said that Star Wars was satanic. That statement propelled me into vs debate.
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The Lord is supposed to be a good guy. I guess she didn't see anything wrong with the genocide of Alderaan, since God kills lots of people all the time anyway.Patrick Degan wrote:I take it she didn't quite get the bit about how Darth Vader and the Emperor were the bad guys.Darth_Zod wrote:i used to have some nutjob teacher (when i had the unpleasant experience of going to a religious school for a year) who felt star wars was anti-christian, because apparently luke turning against Darth Vader and the Emperor was somehow supposed to be analogous to jesus rebelling against god or some such nonsense.
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No offense, but how the hell could you fall for this one? I can understand some blithering anti-fag rally breaking into violence, or the bombing of abortion clinics, but seriously, look at some of the statements from this article.
This is too obviously fake.
...or maybe I'm just naive.
Platters full of lives snakes? Even the most demented pastor wouldn't keep a flock for long with this shit.Another student argued, "Arabs won't ever change, not even a million years from now. They will always be uncivilized. They eat platters full of live snakes, for crying out loud! Yuck!"
87% decrease in horseplay, eh? Well, I suppose sticking gum under the desks is 1.24235% horseplay, and throwing airplanes is nearly 13.4609% horseplay.Christian high school students in check. Students are so interested in the television show, that horseplay during Sunday school has decreased by nearly 87%.
This is too obviously fake.
...or maybe I'm just naive.
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backwhen I was a christo, I didnt read any non christian stuff, because it was unchristian. I had this amazing doublethink going through; ignoring reason and forgetting the ignorance. its hard to picture, which is why I like picking fights with fundies.
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It's difficult to make such distinctions when your god has so many personality traits in common with Darth Vader.Patrick Degan wrote:I take it she didn't quite get the bit about how Darth Vader and the Emperor were the bad guys.Darth_Zod wrote:i used to have some nutjob teacher (when i had the unpleasant experience of going to a religious school for a year) who felt star wars was anti-christian, because apparently luke turning against Darth Vader and the Emperor was somehow supposed to be analogous to jesus rebelling against god or some such nonsense.
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I never said this before but,Durandal wrote: It's difficult to make such distinctions when your god has so many personality traits in common with Darth Vader.
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