Can Someone Prove to a Friend that the Executor is 17.6 km?

[Alexus]

Can you please? He won'tlisten to reason.

Listen. I too thought that Executor is 17.6 in length. But. Official statement is and official statement, wherether you like it or not.

It CAN'T be wrong because it is OFFICIAL. Now. It is OFFICIAL that the last statement about SSD's size will be that it is 12.8 km, it is OFFICIAL that there will be no more statements that it is 8 km or more than 12.8 km.

[NecronLord]

Films trump official. Point him to Saxton's page on the matter.

[Ghost Rider]

The last official if he wants to be nitpicky is in Inside the Worlds of...which stated almost 12 times as long as a regular ISD.

He would have to use some stunted math given the official ISD is 1600 meters. Thus the Executor would have to be at least 17.6(if we go that almost 12 being only 11)

McC and a few others have some great photos that conclude it's 11 times as long as well from canon.

[Alexus]

Tried that. I'm also pointing him to this page.

[Ghost Rider]

Tried that. I'm also pointing him to this page.

You can but seriously if he's that adamant to 12 times = 12.8 given that offical of ISD is 1600m. Then he's got more issues then just taking your word for it .

McC Canon point of the Executor.

[Illuminatus Primus]

Can you please? He won'tlisten to reason.

Listen. I too thought that Executor is 17.6 in length. But. Official statement is and official statement, wherether you like it or not.

It CAN'T be wrong because it is OFFICIAL. Now. It is OFFICIAL that the last statement about SSD's size will be that it is 12.8 km, it is OFFICIAL that there will be no more statements that it is 8 km or more than 12.8 km.

Go to the New Canon Page or look up Inside the Worlds of Star Wars Trilogy and look up Leland Chee comments. He says, explicitly, that the SW Holocron now lists the Executor's length at around 19 kilometers. CANON.

If he whines about that number being larger than 17.6 kilometers, explain that Saxton's math came out to 11-12 times the length of the Avenger-type ISD, and that is 17.6-19.2 km. We went with the lower limit because when the person is always arguing for vast underballing, its easier to argue the adequate lower limit than the upper limit or realistic figure. This is also why SW calcs seem much lower before AOTC ICS; AOTC ICS used realistic calcs, where as in vs. arguments it was hard enough to get Trektards to accept bare-bones lower limit values, so no one bothered arguing for higher ones, even if they were more realistic.

EDIT: As Emeril would say...BAM!

how are we supposed to read retconns like the revised length of the Ex - as absolute truths and matters of dogma; or as "best guess" conclusions based on the interpretation of evidence?

I'm not sure I understand the question. There's a size field for the Executor entry in the Holocron. That field now say s [sic] ~19 km long. It used to say 12 km and before that 8 km. In the Continuity Notes field of the Holocron, it lists some (though not all) sources where the different lengths were stated. There are some notes as to the entire discussion. The next time someone wishes to print a length for the ship, we look at the size field and say, the size is ~19 km long. Could this change yet again? It's unlikely, though never impossible.

...friends who have a certain nostalgia for...

Taking a cue from the films, things in the EU can always change.[emphases mine]

[Stark]

How anyone can argue that lame sources like EU or SW.com are more accurate than the movies is beyond me. Fanboy morons

[Noble Ire]

Damn, now I have to edit my fan fic. Blasted databank!