Sony announce PS3 details:

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2005-05-16 09:15pm

Hamel wrote:
Praxis wrote:
Hamel wrote:The PS3 controller looks like a manta ray, in other words, fucking stupid.

http://img236.echo.cx/img236/707/contro ... 1616pk.jpg
Imageshack? How do we know that is real?
It's been posted on other sites, you know.

I've seen it but they ALL link to an Imageshack pic. I have not seen it hosted on any major site in relation to the PS3.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2005-05-16 09:19pm

Praxis wrote:
Hamel wrote:
Praxis wrote: Imageshack? How do we know that is real?
It's been posted on other sites, you know.
I've seen it but they ALL link to an Imageshack pic. I have not seen it hosted on any major site in relation to the PS3.

What? Well I'll be damned

Killzone pics and some from another game. Doesn't look any better than 360 honestly. Where are pics from the FF7 and Spiderman2 realtime demos?

http://www.zombieculture.com/img/I8_01.jpg
http://www.zombieculture.com/img/I8_02.jpg
http://www.zombieculture.com/img/I8_03.jpg
http://www.zombieculture.com/img/EYEDENTIFY_01.jpg
http://www.zombieculture.com/img/EYEDENTIFY_02.jpg
http://www.zombieculture.com/img/EYEDENTIFY_03.jpg

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2005-05-16 09:25pm

Purdy!

Check this one out.
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/7484 ... 86162.html

Real spit?

I want pics from the Spiderman and FF7 demos, I expect they'll show up later.

DarkSilver · Post by **DarkSilver** » 2005-05-16 09:39pm

sweet looking.

I'm anxiously awaiting the Nintendo shindig tomorrow now....

I can't wait to see what the Revolution has in store...

Arrow · Post by **Arrow** » 2005-05-16 09:52pm

Praxis wrote: It's measured in megaBITS. Quick math reveals its actually 40.5 MB per second.

Which is not bad at all. 12 seconds to fill up the 512 MB of RAM.

The PS3 should murder the XBox 360 in loading times since its still on DVD-9.

To hell with the benchmarks and the Blu-ray. Spanning discs puts the X-Box back in the running as far as game size is concerned. The important question is can dev's use the PS3's one PPC and 7 math units more effectively than the XBox's 3 dual thread PPC units? Having multiple math units is great, but control logic is still a critical factor. I want to see all three systems in action, side-by-side, before I even think about declaring a winner for this round of the console wars.

That said - can I get that Nvidia chip in PCI-E form factor? Full 1080P res...

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2005-05-16 09:53pm

The pic of the controller I linked to earlier is the real deal.

Source other than imageshack

Arrow Mk84 wrote:
Praxis wrote: It's measured in megaBITS. Quick math reveals its actually 40.5 MB per second.

Which is not bad at all. 12 seconds to fill up the 512 MB of RAM.

The PS3 should murder the XBox 360 in loading times since its still on DVD-9.
To hell with the benchmarks and the Blu-ray. Spanning discs puts the X-Box back in the running as far as game size is concerned. The important question is can dev's use the PS3's one PPC and 7 math units more effectively than the XBox's 3 dual thread PPC units? Having multiple math units is great, but control logic is still a critical factor. I want to see all three systems in action, side-by-side, before I even think about declaring a winner for this round of the console wars.

That said - can I get that Nvidia chip in PCI-E form factor? Full 1080P res...

I heard that it's impossible to get 60 fps or htz in 1080p. Is this true?

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2005-05-16 10:08pm

MKSheppard wrote:Fuck Sony, they're continuing their piece of shit CD design; Why did they
need to introduce a Caddy? Top loading works for every game system invented.

Encapsulating the disc in a caddy protects it.

Panzer Grenadier · Post by **Panzer Grenadier** » 2005-05-16 10:10pm

So the new controller is basically a PS2 controller painted silver and horribly, horribly misshapen? How crappy.

Post by **The Wookiee** » 2005-05-16 10:14pm

Panzer Grenadier wrote:So the new controller is basically a PS2 controller painted silver and horribly, horribly misshapen? How crappy.

It's a batarang.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2005-05-16 10:14pm

Crap, its true.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2005-05-16 10:16pm

Hamel wrote:The pic of the controller I linked to earlier is the real deal.

Source other than imageshack

Arrow Mk84 wrote:
Praxis wrote: It's measured in megaBITS. Quick math reveals its actually 40.5 MB per second.

Which is not bad at all. 12 seconds to fill up the 512 MB of RAM.

The PS3 should murder the XBox 360 in loading times since its still on DVD-9.
To hell with the benchmarks and the Blu-ray. Spanning discs puts the X-Box back in the running as far as game size is concerned. The important question is can dev's use the PS3's one PPC and 7 math units more effectively than the XBox's 3 dual thread PPC units? Having multiple math units is great, but control logic is still a critical factor. I want to see all three systems in action, side-by-side, before I even think about declaring a winner for this round of the console wars.

That said - can I get that Nvidia chip in PCI-E form factor? Full 1080P res...
I heard that it's impossible to get 60 fps or htz in 1080p. Is this true?

The p stands for progressive scan, or 60 FPS. At the very least 59.9.

I don't see how its impossible. Just most HDTV's don't support it. 1080i is 30 FPS, and its impossible to get 60 FPS in 1080i.

The i and p make all the difference.

I haven't seen any TV's that support 1080p yet though.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2005-05-16 10:31pm

The Wookiee wrote:
Panzer Grenadier wrote:So the new controller is basically a PS2 controller painted silver and horribly, horribly misshapen? How crappy.
It's a batarang.

But less useful.

Samus, that's a bad design.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2005-05-16 10:38pm

It's a regular ps2 controller painted silver and with a dildo glued to each handel.

Shadowhawk · Post by **Shadowhawk** » 2005-05-16 10:43pm

Check it out.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/killzone2/media.html

Has X360 had any movies released yet? KZ2 looks pretty fucking good in motion (of course, it is a tiny little window).

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2005-05-16 10:48pm

Ok, I'm not buying ti because it's hideous.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2005-05-16 11:15pm

Shadowhawk wrote:Check it out.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/killzone2/media.html

Has X360 had any movies released yet? KZ2 looks pretty fucking good in motion (of course, it is a tiny little window).

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Can't...speak....

WOW.

DarkSilver · Post by **DarkSilver** » 2005-05-17 12:31am

Dear gods....

that was...awesome....that was the most realistic graphics I have ever seen, in anything....

the guys actually almost looked alive.....

I want more...

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2005-05-17 12:44am

I hope we get these kinds of visuals during gameplay. I was impressed most by Killzone 2, followed by that absolutely fucking insane demo of that race in the desert. Whatever the name of it was, I've forgotten.

edit:

It's called Motor Storm.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2005-05-17 01:01am

CNN confirms the design.

CNN wrote:LOS ANGELES (CNN/Money) – Sony won't have a new console on the market this holiday season, but it's doing all it can to convince consumers to wait a bit longer before buying their next video game machine.

The company unveiled details of its planned PlayStation 3 Monday, showing off a machine with enormous horsepower, stunning graphics and a slew of multimedia elements.

Due in about a year, the PlayStation 3 boasts an engine 35 times more powerful than the PlayStation 2, according to Sony. It will support up to seven wireless controllers and has outputs for two high-definition televisions (HDTVs).

Sony (Research) did not announce whether it plans to launch the system first in Japan, then months later in North America, as has been its practice with previous PlayStations, or simultaneously throughout the world.

"All of us at Sony Computer Entertainment have been waiting a long time for this moment," Kaz Hirai, President and CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment America, said at a news conference.

"We have always attempted to do things differently. Our vision has taken us to unprecedented levels of success and innovation. Just keeping up with conventional technology is not enough for us."

The PS3 will be fully "backward compatible," playing all existing PlayStation and PlayStation 2 games. It will come equipped with a Blu-Ray DVD drive and support the sharpest format for HDTV, 1080p.

Wireless controllers using Bluetooth technology will be standard. Sony (Research) said the system will support up to seven simultaneous players, a significant boost from the four standard today.

Additionally, PSP owners will be able to use their handheld gaming device as either a controller or an additional screen, perhaps viewing tactical or statistical information that ties in with the game on your television.

Graphically, Sony showed a number of clips running on PlayStation 3 hardware, including "Devil May Cry," "Metal Gear Solid," "Gran Tursimo" and "Tekken" and had live interactive demos of several games, including Electronic Arts' (Research) "Fight Night: Round 3".

The PS3 will ship with a detachable 2.5-inch hard drive and will include slots for a number of consumer electronic digital storage devices, including Sony memory sticks, SD memory cards and compact flash cards.

In addition to playing games, it will allow users to access digital video and audio files, view digital pictures, offer video chat and allow users to access the Internet.

As with Microsoft's (Research) Xbox 360, online functionality will play an important role with the PS3. The system will ship with a built-in gigabit Ethernet port and can handle both types of wireless Internet access, 802.11b and 802.11g.

"PlayStation 3 truly is the system to be placed in the center of the living room in homes around the globe," said Ken Kutaragi, widely considered the father of the PlayStation. "The future is almost here with the PS3."

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2005-05-17 01:03am

Those are some sweet videos, however from what ive seen, I don't think their will be any noticable difference in graphics performance between these new systems, at least not in the first generation of games.

That controller however.... ugh, I thought the Gamecube controller was bad....

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2005-05-17 01:06am

Shadowhawk wrote:Check it out.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/killzone2/media.html

Has X360 had any movies released yet? KZ2 looks pretty fucking good in motion (of course, it is a tiny little window).

Sweet Zombie Jesus but that is nice looking.. in-game or FMV?

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2005-05-17 01:22am

Icehawk wrote:Those are some sweet videos, however from what ive seen, I don't think their will be any noticable difference in graphics performance between these new systems, at least not in the first generation of games.

That controller however.... ugh, I thought the Gamecube controller was bad....

You thought the GameCube controller was bad?
And not the US XBox controller?

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2005-05-17 01:22am

SylasGaunt wrote:
Shadowhawk wrote:Check it out.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/killzone2/media.html

Has X360 had any movies released yet? KZ2 looks pretty fucking good in motion (of course, it is a tiny little window).
Sweet Zombie Jesus but that is nice looking.. in-game or FMV?

in-game

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2005-05-17 01:22am

If this thing uses a Blu Ray drive where the discs have to be loaded in from caddy's how will people be able to play their PS1 games if the drive only loads caddy discs? Will you have to put your PS1 or PS2 discs into caddy's?

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2005-05-17 01:23am

It's a standard slot loading drive...