Rotten Tomatoes says...

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2005-05-16 01:25pm

Roger Ebert just gave it three and a half. I need no more convincing.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2005-05-16 04:57pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:Roger Ebert just gave it three and a half. I need no more convincing.

Out of what, pray tell?

Is that a good rating?

I'm not really familiar with Ebert's rating system....

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2005-05-16 05:32pm

It's 3½ of 4. He also gave TPM 3½, but he only gave AOTC 2.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2005-05-16 07:27pm

Another gem:

It's why we root for Yoda in Attack of the Clones and, now, Revenge of the Sith: the little green dude is like some childhood pet or stuffed animal coming to life and kicking some major ass, using a light saber that, face it, no human penis could ever hold a candle to.

Humerous sadness.

P.S. They brought this up on Fox News and even THEY said that you have to really look for objectionable stuff if you want to pick a fight.

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-05-16 10:59pm

Bill "Big Blubbering Vagina" O'Reilly is reviewing RotS on Wednesday apparently ... it'll be interesting to see him review a SW film

Here's what the NYT had to say:

This is by far the best film in the more recent trilogy, and also the best of the four episodes Mr. Lucas has directed. That's right (and my inner 11-year-old shudders as I type this): it's better than "Star Wars."

High praise.

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2005-05-16 11:19pm

Vympel wrote:Bill "Big Blubbering Vagina" O'Reilly is reviewing RotS on Wednesday apparently ... it'll be interesting to see him review a SW film

Here's what the NYT had to say:

This is by far the best film in the more recent trilogy, and also the best of the four episodes Mr. Lucas has directed. That's right (and my inner 11-year-old shudders as I type this): it's better than "Star Wars."
High praise.

O'LIE-ly will probably claim that watching the space battles makes him a combat veteran.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2005-05-16 11:21pm

Darksider wrote:
Wicked Pilot wrote:Roger Ebert just gave it three and a half. I need no more convincing.
Out of what, pray tell?

Is that a good rating?

I'm not really familiar with Ebert's rating system....

It's out of four stars.

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-05-17 12:11am

Elfdart wrote:
O'LIE-ly will probably claim that watching the space battles makes him a combat veteran.

ROFLMAO.

"Look, SHUT UP! I was at the Battle of Coruscant, pal, I saw the Separatists and Loyalists slugging out, this is a NO SPIN ZONE, and you're just spinning."

Al Franken: "LIEEE! LIAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR!"

O'Rielly: "I NEVER SAID THAT. NEVER DID! YOU CAN'T PROVE I SAID THAT!"

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2005-05-17 12:19am

Vympel wrote:
Elfdart wrote:
O'LIE-ly will probably claim that watching the space battles makes him a combat veteran.
ROFLMAO.

"Look, SHUT UP! I was at the Battle of Coruscant, pal, I saw the Separatists and Loyalists slugging out, this is a NO SPIN ZONE, and you're just spinning."

Al Franken: "LIEEE! LIAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR!"

O'Rielly: "I NEVER SAID THAT. NEVER DID! YOU CAN'T PROVE I SAID THAT!"

Did you see the video of O'LIE-ly with the two colonels? He asked if either had been in combat. Only one said yes, at which point O'LIE-ly patronized the shit out of the non-combat colonel by saying (not exact quote, but close enough) "Well those of us who were in combat know things..." and was totally condescending to the second colonel.

O'LIE-ly can conjure up more fanciful and preposterous fiction than George Lucas, Robert Howard and L. Frank Baum combined. What a dick!

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2005-05-17 12:26am

WTF? What combat experience can O'Lie-ly claim?

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2005-05-17 12:31am

O'LIE-ly can conjure up more fanciful and preposterous fiction than George Lucas, Robert Howard and L. Frank Baum combined. What a dick!

Putting Lucas and O'lie-ly in the same sentance is offensive. Replace his name a jackass of "true" scifi like Orson Scott Card, or David Brin.

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2005-05-17 12:35am

Pure Sabacc wrote:
O'LIE-ly can conjure up more fanciful and preposterous fiction than George Lucas, Robert Howard and L. Frank Baum combined. What a dick!
Putting Lucas and O'lie-ly in the same sentance is offensive. Replace his name a jackass of "true" scifi like Orson Scott Card, or David Brin.

No, Brin's bullshit is decidedly unimaginative. O'LIE-ly is right up there with Baron Munchausen and is funny as hell, to boot (though not on purpose)

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Post by **Vympel** » 2005-05-17 01:16am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:WTF? What combat experience can O'Lie-ly claim?

Here:

I'll tell you what. I've been in combat. I've seen it, I've been close to it... and if my unit is danger, and I've got a captured guy, and the guy knows where the enemy is, and I'm looking him in the eye, the guy better tell me. That's all I'm gonna tell you. The guy better tell me. If it's life or death, he's going first

Notice the implication that he's had military service.

Link

Notice how outraged he gets when the caller calls him on his misleading statement. He now claims that he survived a "combat situation" of some kind in Argentina or something. No proof has emerged to my knowledge.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2005-05-17 02:22am

I picture Dr. Strangelove reviewing the movie and talking about how much the Empire accomplished, then having to fight off own his alien hand.

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-05-18 12:51am

The tomatometer has shot up to 85%.

After all these years of anticipation, it is a bummer to learn that all it amounts to is Anakin having reoccurring nightmares or visions that may or may not even come true. This revelation is hardly a believable plot point from which to hinge an entire film on never mind what we are to assume are logical, commonsense choices by the characters involved.

*sigh*

Yet another idiotic reviewer who just doesn't get it. It's funny how he complains about Clones not containing anything significant- one would've thought his dreams about the death of his mother would clue him in as being, oh ... you know ... IMPORTANT?!

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-05-18 01:57am

I have long known that most reviewers (particularly the lesser-known ones) are so stupid that they can barely figure out how to tie shoelaces. The vast majority of critics didn't even realize that Starship Troopers was satirical, for fuck's sake. Most of the criticisms leveled against the film lambasted its simplistic portrayal of the bad guys and its cheesy good guys, thus indicating that most critics are indeed dumber than a box of hammers.

So when some moron doesn't understand that Jedi dreams and visions really do mean something despite that whole "Force" thing that we've all known about for nearly 30 years, it's not a surprise to me.

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2005-05-18 02:47am

Darth Wong wrote:I have long known that most reviewers (particularly the lesser-known ones) are so stupid that they can barely figure out how to tie shoelaces. The vast majority of critics didn't even realize that Starship Troopers was satirical, for fuck's sake. Most of the criticisms leveled against the film lambasted its simplistic portrayal of the bad guys and its cheesy good guys, thus indicating that most critics are indeed dumber than a box of hammers.

So when some moron doesn't understand that Jedi dreams and visions really do mean something despite that whole "Force" thing that we've all known about for nearly 30 years, it's not a surprise to me.

Well, I didn't know that it was satirical for the longest time. I thought the movie was just plain bad, and nothing at all related to the novel, instead of a kind of parody of it. And since Hollywood DOES often throw out simplistic crap, it's getting hard to tell what's deliberate and what's not. Take a look at our lovely 'Wing Commander' movie for example.

This of course, does not excuse the reviewer at ALL, who doesn't seem to pick up the idea of the force after another five movies. In a setting where people are frequently performing magical feats all over the place, a bit of precognition doesn't seem particularly far-fetched. I see it as a reviewer deliberately trying to be ignorant.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2005-05-18 10:07am

Darth Wong wrote:I have long known that most reviewers (particularly the lesser-known ones) are so stupid that they can barely figure out how to tie shoelaces. The vast majority of critics didn't even realize that Starship Troopers was satirical, for fuck's sake. Most of the criticisms leveled against the film lambasted its simplistic portrayal of the bad guys and its cheesy good guys, thus indicating that most critics are indeed dumber than a box of hammers.

So when some moron doesn't understand that Jedi dreams and visions really do mean something despite that whole "Force" thing that we've all known about for nearly 30 years, it's not a surprise to me.

The worst one was still the guy who lambasted the editing decision in "Return of the King" that saw clips of Faramir's ill-fated counter-attack at Osgiliath interspersed with Denethor eating. He also wanted them to actually show the combat in that sequence. The guy SERIOUSLY DIDN'T GET IT. And the whole time I was watching this in the theatre I was thinking it was way too over-the-top, and was bashing people over the head with its message.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2005-05-18 03:25pm

Master of Ossus wrote: The worst one was still the guy who lambasted the editing decision in "Return of the King" that saw clips of Faramir's ill-fated counter-attack at Osgiliath interspersed with Denethor eating. He also wanted them to actually show the combat in that sequence. The guy SERIOUSLY DIDN'T GET IT. And the whole time I was watching this in the theatre I was thinking it was way too over-the-top, and was bashing people over the head with its message.

That really pissed me off! Here we had this great scene and Peter Jackson had to ruin it with that distracting battle. I mean, did he have any desert afterwards? More scenes of him washing it down with a refreshing beverage should have been put into the Extended Edition, really.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2005-05-18 03:33pm

The tomato meter is at 82 %, I really didn't expect it to linger above 80 %.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2005-05-19 01:54am

Well, it's official then, the critics love this movie.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-05-19 02:12am

It's back up to 83% right now: 102/21 positive.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2005-05-19 04:53am

For the heck of it I checked to see some fans' view of this movie.

On IMDB.com, ROTS has an 8.1 out of 10 (the same as ROTJ). ANH and ESB both got an 8.8, and TPM got 6.4.