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I was talking with an RP3 today. I told him once that I didn't believe in god, and that there was no proof of his existence, and he claimed that god would do something, within a week, that would be inexplicable by conventional means.

That was over a month ago. I saw him again today, told him I still didn't see any miracles, and he said... "Yes you did."

Little shmuck. Why is it religious types always feel the need to tell you what you believe, like they really know your theological viewpoints better then you? :finger:
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Because they're fucking idiots. That's basically it.
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What a waste of space. Just ignore the dipshit.
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Why didn't you ask him what the miracle was, if it supposedly took place? He said it did happen, after all. Shouldn't he have an idea of what it was?
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Ask him to pray for you, to help discern what the miracle was.

Then come back later and tell him there really was no miracle. Say you prayed hard about it, and the only conclusion you could come up with, given the fact that none of your prayers were answered, there was no emotional fulfillment, etc., is that there is no god.

Or, ask him if he's seen any miracles. When he says "yes", say "no, there were no miracles." That way, he eats his own medicine.
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By the way, this is how much of an authority complex these fucking worthless pieces of shit have.
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How did the rest of the conversation go? Don't tell me you just left it that. Good God man, this is a chance for you to vent outside HOS.
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Well, I did leave it at that. I had worked all night, and had just gotten off work, and I really wasn't in the mood to do anything but go to bed.
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The reason this shit happens is because they have an inability to cope with the fact that they're wrong, and the universe is an unfriendly cold mess, and none of us are protected from the events that could destroy us all. Lol.
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Zero132132 wrote:The reason this shit happens is because they have an inability to cope with the fact that they're wrong, and the universe is an unfriendly cold mess, and none of us are protected from the events that could destroy us all. Lol.
No, that sounds both arrogant and incorrect. First, lots of Christians know that bad things can happen to them, because "God works in mysterious ways". Second, it violates Occam's razor.

I have a simpler theory: this sort of thing happens because of a lifetime of indoctrination in doublethink. These people have been raised, for all their lives, to believe in God, Jesus, and certain doctrines about them. The Bible has lots of things that don't make sense, so they have plenty of practice coming up with (or blindly parroting) rationalizations for their beliefs not making sense.

I see Christians who are obviously very brave, yet when I make arguments about something they believe not making sense, a strange thing happens: they come up with something along the lines of, "There are some things we can't understand, so we just have to have faith in God who understands them for us." And then, no matter how obvious the logical contradiction was, they forget about it. Cowardice? Or just doing what they've been trained to do?
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Setzer wrote:Little shmuck. Why is it religious types always feel the need to tell you what you believe, like they really know your theological viewpoints better then you? :finger:
Because delusion loves company, and people that declare the emperor wears no clothes make them exceedingly uncomfortable.
Hence, they'll say anything to protect their constructed worldview.
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Setzer wrote:I was talking with an RP3 today. I told him once that I didn't believe in god, and that there was no proof of his existence, and he claimed that god would do something, within a week, that would be inexplicable by conventional means.

That was over a month ago. I saw him again today, told him I still didn't see any miracles, and he said... "Yes you did."

Little shmuck. Why is it religious types always feel the need to tell you what you believe, like they really know your theological viewpoints better then you? :finger:
Hey, he barely has enough brainpower to cause his limbs to move, yet he STILL HAS A JOB! After a month!

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He's an RP. they don't do much at all.
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