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I'm hurt.Whining crybabies. I thought Hayden and Natalie were good in both films.
I think she's even hotter in this film tha in previous films. I think it's the hair.18-Till-I-Die wrote:Natalie is good looking, if that is what you mean.
How much gore and blood do you want? Its not supposed to be a R-17 movie, the plant purposfully blocks that part.Seggybop wrote:Regarding the Purge- I thought the editing on that blew.
Anakin marches in and starts owning stuff -- then they cut to some unrelated boringness.
Order 66: part with Ki Adi Mundi was set up pretty cool, with the proto-snowtroopers stopping, lining up, and opening fire. But the scene is cropped so you can never see everything at once, and it cuts away too quickly.
In Secura's part, they shoot her and then start blaster-spaming her corpse, which takes no apparent damage from the numerous shots hitting it, and then half the screen is obscured by a large plant for a few seconds.
Part where the Jedi in a figher is shot down, when Palpatine is shown issuing the order YET AGAIN, it really became somewhat grating.
I thought the segment was cool overall, but it had little emotional impact and I thought it could have been vastly improved without a great deal of effort.
Uh, the storytelling in Star Wars is only "subtle" to complete morons.You've been weaned on too much over the top cartoons and "Matrix" movies to appreciate subtle storytelling that doesn't bash you over the head, or run up to the screen
Compared to the Wachowski Brothers, Lucas is fucking Scorcese.HemlockGrey wrote:Uh, the storytelling in Star Wars is only "subtle" to complete morons.You've been weaned on too much over the top cartoons and "Matrix" movies to appreciate subtle storytelling that doesn't bash you over the head, or run up to the screen
For one, I avoid watching movies in the dubbed German version like the plague.Lex wrote:ya know, I watched the movie two times already; once in german(my mother tongue), at wednesday and i was totally dissappointed, especially by the weak dialogues and stuff. nothing seemed to fit together, most of all the love scenes and everytime palpatine talks it sounded wooden and slow. and then, i watched it yesterday in english, and it was fucking great.
ignoring a few minor nitpicks, like the second romance scene or the final sequenze with the emperor, it was just amazing, everything fit together.
what i want to say: please, all germans and austrians, watch the fuckin movie in english, because the german translation sucks, sucks and well....
SUCKS
Oh God, again these "translation-suxx" people.Dahak wrote:For one, I avoid watching movies in the dubbed German version like the plague.Lex wrote:ya know, I watched the movie two times already; once in german(my mother tongue), at wednesday and i was totally dissappointed, especially by the weak dialogues and stuff. nothing seemed to fit together, most of all the love scenes and everytime palpatine talks it sounded wooden and slow. and then, i watched it yesterday in english, and it was fucking great.
ignoring a few minor nitpicks, like the second romance scene or the final sequenze with the emperor, it was just amazing, everything fit together.
what i want to say: please, all germans and austrians, watch the fuckin movie in english, because the german translation sucks, sucks and well....
SUCKS
Mostly it is better (though there are movies out there who are slightly better in the dubbed version than in the original...)
True dat.Compared to the Wachowski Brothers, Lucas is fucking Scorcese.
It's possible that you approve of the dubbing, but you must realize that perhaps a lot of people don't (I don't know how the situation is in Germany). Here in Sweden, dubbing isn't accepted (thankfully) and I can't even imagine a movie such as ROTS being dubbed into Swedish. It's a horrible concept. It doesn't surprise me that a lot of people on the continent (not you Tribun) aren't good with languages as it seems as if they're very seldom confronted by them. English has been mandatory here in Swedish schools (beginning in elementary school) for over sixty years and in Swedish high schools for over a century (since the 1860's, even though there has been many reforms since then).Tribun wrote:Oh God, again these "translation-suxx" people.Dahak wrote:For one, I avoid watching movies in the dubbed German version like the plague.Lex wrote:ya know, I watched the movie two times already; once in german(my mother tongue), at wednesday and i was totally dissappointed, especially by the weak dialogues and stuff. nothing seemed to fit together, most of all the love scenes and everytime palpatine talks it sounded wooden and slow. and then, i watched it yesterday in english, and it was fucking great.
ignoring a few minor nitpicks, like the second romance scene or the final sequenze with the emperor, it was just amazing, everything fit together.
what i want to say: please, all germans and austrians, watch the fuckin movie in english, because the german translation sucks, sucks and well....
SUCKS
Mostly it is better (though there are movies out there who are slightly better in the dubbed version than in the original...)
I have seen the film in cinema in German, and it was fine. You only look for a reason to complain (how typically german). I think I know what the problem of you people is:
You ALWAYS think translation is bad, and you would never change this position, even if a tranlation (like Ep. III) is actually good.
For information to other board members:
The people who always complain about the dubbing are the most annoying in German SW boards, many can't stand their whining anymore.
There are, with few exceptions, only dubbed fils in the cinemas. Ep.III is shown nearly everywhere in Germany only in German.Mange the Swede wrote:It's possible that you approve of the dubbing, but you must realize that perhaps a lot of people don't (I don't know how the situation is in Germany). Here in Sweden, dubbing isn't accepted (thankfully) and I can't even imagine a movie such as ROTS being dubbed into Swedish. It's a horrible concept. It doesn't surprise me that a lot of people on the continent (not you Tribun) aren't good with languages as it seems as if they're very seldom confronted by them. English has been mandatory here in Swedish schools (beginning in elementary school) for over sixty years and in Swedish high schools for over a century (since the 1860's, even though there has been many reforms since then).Tribun wrote:Oh God, again these "translation-suxx" people.Dahak wrote: For one, I avoid watching movies in the dubbed German version like the plague.
Mostly it is better (though there are movies out there who are slightly better in the dubbed version than in the original...)
I have seen the film in cinema in German, and it was fine. You only look for a reason to complain (how typically german). I think I know what the problem of you people is:
You ALWAYS think translation is bad, and you would never change this position, even if a tranlation (like Ep. III) is actually good.
For information to other board members:
The people who always complain about the dubbing are the most annoying in German SW boards, many can't stand their whining anymore.
Are all the showings dubbed into German?
Kinda Hijacky question but what happened when Walk on Water(Half german,Half hebrew) came out?Tribun wrote:
If you dare not to dub your film here, only using subtitles or even say the people should learn English, you can be sure that:
a)you will be seen as arrogant.
b)nearly no one wants to see your film.
To not translate is flimatic suicide here.
Alright, thanks for the info! To clarify, movies are subtitled here in Sweden.Tribun wrote:There are, with few exceptions, only dubbed fils in the cinemas. Ep.III is shown nearly everywhere in Germany only in German.Mange the Swede wrote:It's possible that you approve of the dubbing, but you must realize that perhaps a lot of people don't (I don't know how the situation is in Germany). Here in Sweden, dubbing isn't accepted (thankfully) and I can't even imagine a movie such as ROTS being dubbed into Swedish. It's a horrible concept. It doesn't surprise me that a lot of people on the continent (not you Tribun) aren't good with languages as it seems as if they're very seldom confronted by them. English has been mandatory here in Swedish schools (beginning in elementary school) for over sixty years and in Swedish high schools for over a century (since the 1860's, even though there has been many reforms since then).Tribun wrote: Oh God, again these "translation-suxx" people.
I have seen the film in cinema in German, and it was fine. You only look for a reason to complain (how typically german). I think I know what the problem of you people is:
You ALWAYS think translation is bad, and you would never change this position, even if a tranlation (like Ep. III) is actually good.
For information to other board members:
The people who always complain about the dubbing are the most annoying in German SW boards, many can't stand their whining anymore.
Are all the showings dubbed into German?
And English is also mandatory in German schools for at least six years. But people want to enjoy the film, not wanting to translate everything they hear (most likely horribly deformed by accent) or having to concentrate on subtitles.
If you dare not to dub your film here, only using subtitles or even say the people should learn English, you can be sure that:
a)you will be seen as arrogant.
b)nearly no one wants to see your film.
To not translate is flimatic suicide here.
That is not as seldom as you make it to be.Tribun wrote:There are, with few exceptions, only dubbed fils in the cinemas. Ep.III is shown nearly everywhere in Germany only in German.
And still that is minor compared to the rest.Dahak wrote:That is not as seldom as you make it to be.Tribun wrote:There are, with few exceptions, only dubbed fils in the cinemas. Ep.III is shown nearly everywhere in Germany only in German.
Here in Stuttgart there were several showings in English, and there's a whole cinema showing original-version only.
Oh please shut up...Tribun wrote:Oh God, again these "translation-suxx" people.
Translation IS (in 99%) bad when you compare it to the original version, because it always will fail to convey the completer meaning and often have sub-par voices. I just prefer to actually see and hear a movie as it was meant to be, not some butchered version in German. The translation errors are everywhere, but if you close your ears and go "na na na" it won't help...I have seen the film in cinema in German, and it was fine. You only look for a reason to complain (how typically german). I think I know what the problem of you people is:
You ALWAYS think translation is bad, and you would never change this position, even if a tranlation (like Ep. III) is actually good.
I'm on no other SW-related board, so again, shut up.For information to other board members:
The people who always complain about the dubbing are the most annoying in German SW boards, many can't stand their whining anymore.
Like it's been said before, this seems to be a direct tie in to the CWC, where Mace force crushes Grievous' chest. He doesn't have a cough in any other preceding literature or CWC, so his coughing fit is most likely directly linked to his encounter with Windu.Nephtys wrote:I thought the coughing was cheesy as hell. I stared and was like.. "Wait. Why make one super droid, if you can mass-produce generals? I didn't know a Droid could have Bronchitis.
They didn't really explain those until when he's about to die anyway, so I thought the cough was just more cheesy kiddy-stuff until we saw he was a cyborg.
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