Could the Borg adapt to Force Lightning?
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Could the Borg adapt to Force Lightning?
If a Sith encountered some Borg drones, and dispatched a few via force lightning, could the Borg adapt to that? What exactly is the lighting they fire? If it's high output electricity, I really don't see why they couldn't adapt to it (even if the Sith does beat the shit out of the with other means).
I dont really think so.
1) I'm not sure, but I believe that force lightning is not purely an energy attack, more like a force attack complemented by electricity.
2) Can Borg drones adapt to natural forces. Can they adapt to light and become cloaked?
1) I'm not sure, but I believe that force lightning is not purely an energy attack, more like a force attack complemented by electricity.
2) Can Borg drones adapt to natural forces. Can they adapt to light and become cloaked?
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The ROTJ novel suggests that Force Lightning is a manifestation of the Dark Side. Also, most of the time we see that Force Lightning has a TK component to it. Which brings us to the question of will Borg drones survive getting their implants being torn out of them by recall.
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Re: Could the Borg adapt to Force Lightning?
One strange thing being, if Force lightening is indeed electricity, why doesn't victim's hair stand on end?Superman wrote:If a Sith encountered some Borg drones, and dispatched a few via force lightning, could the Borg adapt to that? What exactly is the lighting they fire? If it's high output electricity, I really don't see why they couldn't adapt to it (even if the Sith does beat the shit out of the with other means).
Force lightening is not just an energy attack, the Sith Lord isn't simply ramping up the voltasge on his fingertips. Suppossedly there is a "life force draining" element that does the damage. I can't see them adapting to that; we can't even begin to define it.
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Re: Could the Borg adapt to Force Lightning?
All the victims of Force Lightning that we saw in the films were Jedi, and could thus use their Force telekenesis to keep their hair from being messed up.Robert Walper wrote:One strange thing being, if Force lightening is indeed electricity, why doesn't victim's hair stand on end?Superman wrote:If a Sith encountered some Borg drones, and dispatched a few via force lightning, could the Borg adapt to that? What exactly is the lighting they fire? If it's high output electricity, I really don't see why they couldn't adapt to it (even if the Sith does beat the shit out of the with other means).
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Whats with this obsession with Borg and salami lately?
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To hazard a guess, somebody probably used being hit with a Salami as an example of kinetic energy (IE- something the Borg can't adapt to) and it stuck.Pure Sabacc wrote:Whats with this obsession with Borg and salami lately?
As to Force Lightning, they probably could adapt to the actual electricity (which doesn't seem that lethal anyway), but like everyone else has said there's more to the ability than that.
Where do the "Life-Draining" and TK components of it come from? I assume it's part of the EU or ROTS since I haven't heard of it.
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Re: Could the Borg adapt to Force Lightning?
So the Jedi are having the life fried out of them, but they can waste energy keeping their hair from standing on end? You don't seriously expect me to buy that arguement, do you? Did I miss somewhere that the Jedi will chose to die before losing hair style?Drooling Iguana wrote:All the victims of Force Lightning that we saw in the films were Jedi, and could thus use their Force telekenesis to keep their hair from being messed up.Robert Walper wrote:One strange thing being, if Force lightening is indeed electricity, why doesn't victim's hair stand on end?Superman wrote:If a Sith encountered some Borg drones, and dispatched a few via force lightning, could the Borg adapt to that? What exactly is the lighting they fire? If it's high output electricity, I really don't see why they couldn't adapt to it (even if the Sith does beat the shit out of the with other means).
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One interesting thing to note is that a energy blade apparently has no trouble absorbing a Force lightening attack, so energy shielding might have some merit.MRDOD wrote:To hazard a guess, somebody probably used being hit with a Salami as an example of kinetic energy (IE- something the Borg can't adapt to) and it stuck.Pure Sabacc wrote:Whats with this obsession with Borg and salami lately?
As to Force Lightning, they probably could adapt to the actual electricity (which doesn't seem that lethal anyway), but like everyone else has said there's more to the ability than that.
Where do the "Life-Draining" and TK components of it come from? I assume it's part of the EU or ROTS since I haven't heard of it.
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The point being the energy blade blocked the lightening, so we have evidence an energy "shield" of sorts can do so.MRDOD wrote:As to the Hair Style comment I believe that was a joke. But anyway, Wasn't the person with the lightsaber absorbing the Force Lightning a Jedi? Perhaps he was using the force at the same time, which would account for more than just it hitting a Lightsaber.
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We also have canon evidence that each time it was through the F-O-R-C-E.Robert Walper wrote:The point being the energy blade blocked the lightening, so we have evidence an energy "shield" of sorts can do so.MRDOD wrote:As to the Hair Style comment I believe that was a joke. But anyway, Wasn't the person with the lightsaber absorbing the Force Lightning a Jedi? Perhaps he was using the force at the same time, which would account for more than just it hitting a Lightsaber.
Luke does through the Force, Yoda does it through the Force, Mace does through the Force, Obi Wan does it through the Force...so stop with "It could be a lightsaber" bullshit. Only a fucking retard would go it's only the saber...not because it's a fucking Jedi using his powers against another force user.
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The TK part of it comes from AotC and ROTS; it's demonstrated at least once in ROTS (When Palpatine blasts Mace out the window), and also in AotC, when Dooku fries Anakin and hurls him into a wall.MRDOD wrote:To hazard a guess, somebody probably used being hit with a Salami as an example of kinetic energy (IE- something the Borg can't adapt to) and it stuck.Pure Sabacc wrote:Whats with this obsession with Borg and salami lately?
As to Force Lightning, they probably could adapt to the actual electricity (which doesn't seem that lethal anyway), but like everyone else has said there's more to the ability than that.
Where do the "Life-Draining" and TK components of it come from? I assume it's part of the EU or ROTS since I haven't heard of it.
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I recall Luke getting his assed fried in ROTJ actually...because he stupidly threw away his lightsaber.Ghost Rider wrote: We also have canon evidence that each time it was through the F-O-R-C-E.
Luke does through the Force,
The most powerful Jedi in the Jedi order can do so without a saber. I'd call that the exception, not the rule.Yoda does it through the Force,
He used his saber...Mace does through the Force,
He also used his saber...Obi Wan does it through the Force...
The only example of Force lightening being stopped by the Force alone is Yoda. The rest used their sabers.so stop with "It could be a lightsaber" bullshit. Only a fucking retard would go it's only the saber...not because it's a fucking Jedi using his powers against another force user.
Furthermore, for clarification's sake, I'm not suggesting a saber blocks all properties of Force lightening (like hurling the victim backwards). Only that it blocks the physical bolt of lightening itself.
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Read the goddamn novel you twit.Robert Walper wrote:I recall Luke getting his assed fried in ROTJ actually...because he stupidly threw away his lightsaber.Ghost Rider wrote: We also have canon evidence that each time it was through the F-O-R-C-E.
Luke does through the Force,
Like I said before...LUKE does this you fucking idiot.Robert Walper wrote:The most powerful Jedi in the Jedi order can do so without a saber. I'd call that the exception, not the rule.Ghost Rider wrote: Yoda does it through the Force,
You are a fucking moron if you aren't using the deductive reasoningRobert Walper wrote:He used his saber...Ghost Rider wrote: Mace does through the Force,
To believe there is NO FORCE ability going on since we have seen them use it in LIGHTSABER COMBAT.Robert Walper wrote:He also used his saber...Ghost Rider wrote: Obi Wan does it through the Force...
Are you intenionally being obtuse again to see if someone is here to call you a retard so you can just go "Well, oops proved wrong again."
Fucking a, you goddamn idiot, use your fucking brain...the same one that allows you to use neural impusles to type, you fucking halfwit.
So dumbfuck when I show you proof other wise, you'll just bleet out "But I didn't read the novel!!!"Robert Walper wrote:The only example of Force lightening being stopped by the Force alone is Yoda. The rest used their sabers.Ghost Rider wrote: so stop with "It could be a lightsaber" bullshit. Only a fucking retard would go it's only the saber...not because it's a fucking Jedi using his powers against another force user.
Furthermore, for clarification's sake, I'm not suggesting a saber blocks all properties of Force lightening (like hurling the victim backwards). Only that it blocks the physical bolt of lightening itself.
Good, now shut up since in the RoTJ novel, the AoTC novel and the RoTS novel they all give demonstrations of using the goddamn FORCE to block it in CONCERT WITH THE BLADE.
And oh yes, before you go some bullshit about movie being higher then novels...this applies when CONTRADICTED. So don't go there either.
Fucking A, you really do want to live up to the example of class A moron.
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I believe I mentioned that the energy blade is only blocking the physical bolt, not all of it's properties (like hurling victims backwards).MRDOD wrote:Which is then useless because the physical bolt of lightning is not the only component of Force Lightning.
My only intention was to point out that a energy "shield" of sorts seems to be able to stop Force lightening bolts, although we can safely assume other effects (like the magically imparted momentun) is stopped via other means (aka the Force).Even if everyone were to agree that some sort of energy shield can block the physical Lightning, what would that accomplish in actually defeating the Force Lightning?
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Then answer this particular you fucking idiot...how does a blade that doesn't block an energy stream that comes at greater width of it block it, withjout some manipulation of a third party?Robert Walper wrote:I believe I mentioned that the energy blade is only blocking the physical bolt, not all of it's properties (like hurling victims backwards).MRDOD wrote:Which is then useless because the physical bolt of lightning is not the only component of Force Lightning.
Oh wait...you can't.
You know...this has to be one of your more unique I'm not going use deuctive reasoning positions given that the arc at which those blots go at (the physical part) are WIDER THEN THE LIGHTSABER.Robert Walper wrote:My only intention was to point out that a energy "shield" of sorts seems to be able to stop Force lightening bolts, although we can safely assume other effects (like the magically imparted momentun) is stopped via other means (aka the Force).MRDOD wrote: Even if everyone were to agree that some sort of energy shield can block the physical Lightning, what would that accomplish in actually defeating the Force Lightning?
So dumbfuck, give a physica answr that for some reason the BOLTS CONVERGE ONTO THE BLADE.
So please tell us again how that this event which seems to indicate a high degree of energy manipulation is solely based upon a lightsaber?
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The bolt is not electrical. If it were electrical, then it would arc to ground.
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And for dumbfuck let's compare Dooku's stance at throwing the bolts and Obi Wan's response.
Dooku zapping Anakin...
Note the look that it SPREADS across the body.
Obi Wan's for some reason CONVERGES TO A SINGLE POINT.
So dumbfuck...what's your reasoning that the Lightsaber isn't the same as YODA'S HANDS are as a focal point but instead some PHYSICAL BARRIER?
Dooku zapping Anakin...
Note the look that it SPREADS across the body.
Obi Wan's for some reason CONVERGES TO A SINGLE POINT.
So dumbfuck...what's your reasoning that the Lightsaber isn't the same as YODA'S HANDS are as a focal point but instead some PHYSICAL BARRIER?
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So what if the bolt was pure unadulterated electricity? How can the Borg adapt to that? Because they can adapt to phasers because of that frequency modulating bullshit, while electricity, as far as I know, does NOT have frequency. And there's the firepower > adaptation thing, so the Sith Lord could just crank up his lightning from stun to kill and the drone will be vaped.
And so what if lightsabers can block force lightning? Are Drone shields concentrated energy blades with so much energy that they can practically slice through anything without any effort? No. They can't even block bullets, for Christ's sake!
And so what if lightsabers can block force lightning? Are Drone shields concentrated energy blades with so much energy that they can practically slice through anything without any effort? No. They can't even block bullets, for Christ's sake!
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