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Post by Terrace Manosk »

A Star Destroyer destroy the Enterprise-D? Or let's go further. How fast could the Executor destroy the Enterprise-E? It's well established that Star Wars would own Star Trek, but how fast would the ownage be?

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However long it takes to give the order to fire, relay that order to the gunners, for the gunners to actually fire the weapon and for the weapons fire to actually hit the Enterprise.

Lets say 30 seconds or so, worst case.
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One shot by their forward guns can supposedly do it.
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I think the Executor wouldn't even bother with most of their guns. I can see it now...

Admiral Piet: Fire one shot at that...thing.

*10% of forward guns fire. Enterprise blows up.*

Admiral Piet: Morons, I meant one gun should fire.
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Why use guns?

They can ram the Ent-D or Ent-E and it would be over in matter of less then 5 seconds.
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Ghost Rider wrote:Why use guns?
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Ghost Rider wrote:Why use guns?
Because that's what they're for perhaps?
They can ram the Ent-D or Ent-E and it would be over in matter of less then 5 seconds.
Why risk structural damage to the hull when you can use your guns without any risk at all?
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Robert Walper wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:Why use guns?
Because that's what they're for perhaps?
Nice to see you not grasping humor...should I put a smiley next time for you, retard?
Robert Walper wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote: They can ram the Ent-D or Ent-E and it would be over in matter of less then 5 seconds.
Why risk structural damage to the hull when you can use your guns without any risk at all?
Yes, because the Ent-E is even close to exploding at teraton level damage that an ISD shields can take.

You want to even try using that thing between your ears, dumbfuck?

Yes the guns would faster, and the amount of time would be in the arena of 2-3 seconds
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Ghost, I think Robert was trying to be funny too (god I hope he was) at least thats how I read it.
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Dark Hellion wrote:Ghost, I think Robert was trying to be funny too (god I hope he was) at least thats how I read it.
Probably with the 'Perhaps that's what they're for' part.
The 'structural damage' part was clearly Robert being obnoxious.
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Yah, that I can see. But still, think if the captain has to explain a 200m long scorched spot on the nose of the ship. "well, umm, emperor, we sorta like, hit this stupid ship piloted by some frenchy. We won't do it again prom.....ZZAAAPP"
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What a bizarre question. A Manhatten-sized warship built by a society with orders of magnitude more shielding and weapon capability and the E-E? :?
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Dark Hellion wrote:Yah, that I can see. But still, think if the captain has to explain a 200m long scorched spot on the nose of the ship. "well, umm, emperor, we sorta like, hit this stupid ship piloted by some frenchy. We won't do it again prom.....ZZAAAPP"
And where's that scorch mark going to come from considering Executor took three ISDs de-lightspeeding into her on the shields?
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well, it would take *some* time for the ESD to accelerate and hit the Ent-E, assuming the Ent didn't dodge out of the way. Guns are the say to go.
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[TRekBBS Trekkie] Only the Death Star can destroy a Trek ship, Given SW technology, it's likely be some sort of hyperdrive-accelerator that creates a discrepancy in the planet's hyperstructure, creating a mass-energy conversion at the point of highest gravity (the core). [/TrekBBS Trekkie]

{TrekBBS Trekkie2] Lasers can't even scratch the much weaker navigational shields, how in blazes are they going to do anything to the much more powerful deflector shields? And it's the TYPE of energy that matters, not the amount; ST deflectors essentially bend space-time so that EM energy is deflected into space just as if the ship wasn't there. [/TrekBBS Trekkie2]

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I just think we need some differing opinions here. :mrgreen:


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Ooops, now I forgot a smiley. Damn, this is becoming a general maze of non-smilely usage.
You may want to reexamine you senses of humour though, as you seemed to miss that I am very much in the Wars kicks the shit outta ST camp, but are somewhat hostile to any joke that seems to belittle SW in the least.
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(Impeeeerious Britsh Accent) Oh sith. What is that eyesore? Captain Needa, please mildly intensify forward battery number six. You know, the one I like.

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"Sir, the hostile ship is weaker than a civilian transport of the same size, and judging from the readings it could pound us 'till they ran out of energy without even getting though the sheilds. Hell, we could probably beat them in a combat stuation with sheilds down and heavy battle damage."

The Captain adresses a favored junior officer, "I can't be bothered with this, take command and capture the ship."

The officer tries not to smile at the fact that the Captain is trying to get him promoted, and is teaching him how to be a Star Destroyer Captain at every opportunity. "Off course sir. We will have to take down their sheilds and send over a couple of shuttles to board them."

The Enterprise-E continues to pound the Destroyer. Heavy sensor jamming makes it impossible for them to know that they are not going to break through those shields any time soon. With 'soon' meaning 'before they run out of fuel.'

"No, I want you to tractor them into the hangar bay," says the Captain.

"Sir, it won't fit."

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They snag it with their tractor beam and plow it into an asteroid.

Or they snag it with their tractor beam and smash in against themselves. Like knocking someone out by headbutting them.
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Post by Terrace Manosk »

Impstar Captain: What in the name of--? Do they really think they can puncture our shields? Guns, please shoot that thing out of space.

Impstar Gunner: Yes, sir.

*Meanwhile, on the Enterprise-E*

Tech: We're runnin' outta juice fast, Cap'n! The guns canna take any more use!

Feddie Captain: Well, we'll just have to...

BOOM!

Impstar Captain: Thank you, guns.
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I have the most interesting image in my head of two Imperial Star Destroyers playing a game f steller Ping-Pong with the Enterprize as the ball...
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Post by Perseid »

I think it'd take about the same length of time for either:
1. One of the gunners to sneeze and accidently fire causing the gun to fire on E-E.
*Admiral Piett: "What was that?"
*Gunner: "Sorry sir I sneezed"

2. The gunners decide to play a variation of "Pin the tail on the donkey" only with TL's instead of a fake tail.
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