C'boath and Stormies (spoilers for Episode III)

Thanas · Post by **Thanas** » 2005-05-25 03:33pm

All right, why do none of the clones try to kill Joruus C'boath?
Do they react differently to cloned jedi or was Order 66 only a standing order at the time of RotS?
Your thoughts on this issue?

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2005-05-25 03:40pm

Thanas wrote:All right, why do none of the clones try to kill Joruus C'boath?
Do they react differently to cloned jedi or was Order 66 only a standing order at the time of RotS?
Your thoughts on this issue?

By the time of Thrawn, most of the clones who were grown for the Empire are probably gone. Besides, even if there were still some left, I think Order 66 was a one time thing, an Order to kill all known Jedi, not a "turn into Jedi-hunting monster for the rest of your existance" command. In any event, no doubt the order could be countermanded by the reigning Imperial.

Bob the Gunslinger · Post by **Bob the Gunslinger** » 2005-05-25 04:43pm

Obviously there was some control over it since the Clonies didn't shoot Anakin in the back during the temple massacre.

FTeik · Post by **FTeik** » 2005-05-25 05:45pm

The C'Baoth from TTT is a clone of the original C'Baoth, who died during the Outbound-Flight-Project.

We don't know when the C'Baoth-Clone was grown (probably long after ROTS), we don't know by whom (much speaks for Palpatine to get a guardian) and we don't know, if the clone went anywhere aside from Wayland and the lab he was created in (which might have been on Wayland, too).

So it is very likely, that the clone didn't participate in the clone-war and was never around one of the clone-troopers.

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 2005-05-25 06:26pm

well, didn' C'boath actually defeat the dark jedi master(according to his own memories), or were those implanted memories?

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2005-05-25 10:32pm

Lex wrote:well, didn' C'boath actually defeat the dark jedi master(according to his own memories), or were those implanted memories?

Knowing Palpatine's penchant for mind-f***s, I wouldn't put it past him to fake memories like that.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2005-05-26 03:58am

JME2 wrote:
Lex wrote:well, didn' C'boath actually defeat the dark jedi master(according to his own memories), or were those implanted memories?
Knowing Palpatine's penchant for mind-f***s, I wouldn't put it past him to fake memories like that.

Hell, cloney-boy was nuttier than squirrely turds. I wouldn't trust one damn thing he said for that simple reason. His memory is shot, he's living in delusion, and on top of that he's a clone of questionable quality. All in all, not the most reliable source.

Jack Bauer · Post by **Jack Bauer** » 2005-05-26 05:53am

Stormbringer wrote:
JME2 wrote:
Lex wrote:well, didn' C'boath actually defeat the dark jedi master(according to his own memories), or were those implanted memories?
Knowing Palpatine's penchant for mind-f***s, I wouldn't put it past him to fake memories like that.
Hell, cloney-boy was nuttier than squirrely turds. I wouldn't trust one damn thing he said for that simple reason. His memory is shot, he's living in delusion, and on top of that he's a clone of questionable quality. All in all, not the most reliable source.

Gotta agree with that assessment.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2005-05-27 12:37am

I stand corrected and concur with you now.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2005-05-27 04:45am

JME2 wrote:I stand corrected and concur with you now.

Concur with who on what?

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2005-05-27 05:38am

It seems to be with you. You're on a roll with the kickass posts Stormbringer.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2005-05-27 09:46am

Imperial Overlord wrote:It seems to be with you.

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That's what I meant; forgive me for not being more specific.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2005-05-27 01:48pm

JME2 wrote:
Imperial Overlord wrote:It seems to be with you.
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That's what I meant; forgive me for not being more specific.

No problem, I was just confused since I hadn't entered advocating much. Just pointing out C'baoth's documented mental instability.

BigBeaner · Post by **BigBeaner** » 2005-05-29 01:17pm

Hmmm, ever think that now a lot of those books written before Lucas clearly had penned out the sequels might not fight directly into continuity? I was recently reading the Dark Empire trilogy if you will comics and well you just can't take everything just as canon just as you can't take these movies seriously.

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2005-05-29 01:58pm

BigBeaner wrote:Hmmm, ever think that now a lot of those books written before Lucas clearly had penned out the sequels might not fight directly into continuity? I was recently reading the Dark Empire trilogy if you will comics and well you just can't take everything just as canon just as you can't take these movies seriously.

Give me an example of a major continuity error.
(and thats prequel by the way, not sequel.)

BigBeaner · Post by **BigBeaner** » 2005-05-29 09:54pm

First off, I stated stuff doesn't fit in continuity, but really choice of word would've been in canon. Whether the stuff I was thinking was continuity or not can really be debated but it can't be denied whether it is canon and be held by the law or not. You can say I am backing down but I won't bother to waste all my time with all the continuity and discrepencies about a swashbuckling serial. Besides wasting time as another thread talks about "the death of the eu".

Here's a really good suggestion, if Lucas wanted C'baoth as pure canon in his galaxy, he would've given him a nod as a background jedi in AOTC or ROTS.
Regardless, I'll give you one continuity error, going by the comics/books, a lot of jedi made it out from the jedi purge than Obi and Yoda. Clearly, this is just for a story flow and Yoda and Obi-Wan do make it so why not more, but believing more made it out would go against the prophecy of the chosen one. Darth Vadar/Palpatine vs. Yoda/Obi-wan etc. etc.

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2005-05-29 09:56pm

Clearly, this is just for a story flow and Yoda and Obi-Wan do make it so why not more, but believing more made it out would go against the prophecy of the chosen one. Darth Vadar/Palpatine vs. Yoda/Obi-wan etc. etc.

My god, he has uncovered the true meaning of the prophecy!

He did what the Jedi Council, the Sith, and even GL himself could not!

Praise Him!

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