the Age of the Jedi Temple

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-05-31 04:40pm

a simple quoestion, how old is the Jedi Temple (the PT version)?

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2005-05-31 09:55pm

Most likely its been there for a thousand generations

Eframepilot · Post by **Eframepilot** » 2005-06-01 09:59pm

It's probably 1000 years old, the same age as the current incarnation of the Republic. In making the prequels, Lucas forgot about Obi-Wan's 1000 generations line in ANH and instead made references to the destruction of the Sith and the formation of the Galactic Republic as being a mere 1000 years ago. Also, if the rumor of Episode 0 is true, Lucas intended the 1000 years to be a rounding up from 880 years or so, allowing a young Yoda to play a role in the destruction of the Sith and rebuilding of the Republic.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2005-06-01 10:01pm

I thought the Republic was around for 25,000+ years.

Oh well.

They make reference to a Jedi temple on courscant in KOTOR, which is -4,000 pre empire.

Drunk Monkey · Post by **Drunk Monkey** » 2005-06-01 10:03pm

Didn’t they mention the temple being on Couracant in KOTOR, and that takes place about 5,000 years before ANH.

Drunk Monkey · Post by **Drunk Monkey** » 2005-06-01 10:04pm

Darksider wrote:I thought the Republic was around for 25,000+ years.

Oh well.

They make reference to a Jedi temple on courscant in KOTOR, which is -4,000 pre empire.

Fuck you beat me to it.

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2005-06-01 10:09pm

Drunk Monkey wrote:
Darksider wrote:I thought the Republic was around for 25,000+ years.

Oh well.

They make reference to a Jedi temple on courscant in KOTOR, which is -4,000 pre empire.
Fuck you beat me to it.

What the hell was the

for?

Any ways, as others have hinted at, the Old Republic has existed for 25,000 years, but about 1,000 BBY the Final Sith War caused so much change and destruction in the galaxy (the specifics are fairly ambigus) the that Republic essentially scrapped its current Gov. body and started anew. It was also at this point the Jedi Order ceased being a military entity and focused on peace keeping.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2005-06-01 10:11pm

Eframepilot wrote:It's probably 1000 years old, the same age as the current incarnation of the Republic. In making the prequels, Lucas forgot about Obi-Wan's 1000 generations line in ANH and instead made references to the destruction of the Sith and the formation of the Galactic Republic as being a mere 1000 years ago. Also, if the rumor of Episode 0 is true, Lucas intended the 1000 years to be a rounding up from 880 years or so, allowing a young Yoda to play a role in the destruction of the Sith and rebuilding of the Republic.

A Sith War that makes for a reorganizing of the Republic does not make the Temple as old as it. i do not think that Lucas forgot about the 1000 generations line or he would have changed the timeline. The Jedi order has existed for that long but the Republic could have changed many times during that time. A generation is usually called out as 25 year so that is where the 25,000 years in the timeline comes from. It is 1,000 years since the last Sith War. The Sith lost its wars with the jedi because while the Jedi tend to work togather, the Sith are power hungery. They fight the Jedi and each other at the same time. A house divided and all that. This must be where the rull of two came from.

Drunk Monkey · Post by **Drunk Monkey** » 2005-06-01 10:13pm

Pure Sabacc wrote:
Drunk Monkey wrote:
Darksider wrote:I thought the Republic was around for 25,000+ years.

Oh well.

They make reference to a Jedi temple on courscant in KOTOR, which is -4,000 pre empire.
Fuck you beat me to it.
What the hell was the for?

Any ways, as others have hinted at, the Old Republic has existed for 25,000 years, but about 1,000 BBY the Final Sith War caused so much change and destruction in the galaxy (the specifics are fairly ambigus) the that Republic essentially scrapped its current Gov. body and started anew. It was also at this point the Jedi Order ceased being a military entity and focused on peace keeping.

Opps, I accidentally clicked the wrong one I meant to click

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-06-02 12:51pm

Drunk Monkey wrote:Didn’t they mention the temple being on Couracant in KOTOR, and that takes place about 5,000 years before ANH.

actually they say that High Council of the Jedi Order is in Corusant and IIRC they say outright that the Temple is in Corusant in Sith Lords (AKA KOTOR2)

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2005-06-02 12:57pm

Pure Sabacc wrote:
Drunk Monkey wrote:
Darksider wrote:I thought the Republic was around for 25,000+ years.

Oh well.

They make reference to a Jedi temple on courscant in KOTOR, which is -4,000 pre empire.
Fuck you beat me to it.
What the hell was the for?

He wanted to pleasure you for being faster in digging up SW info then himself?

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2005-06-02 09:01pm

So not only is the Republic centered on Coruscant for 25,000+ years, but the Jedi Temple is in the same exact spot for that same period of time?

How boring...! I mean, were they afraid that if they changed anything people would complain?

FedRebel · Post by **FedRebel** » 2005-06-02 09:10pm

Why fix what ain't broke?

Why would they want to change things around?, and anyways I'm sure real estate is pretty pricey on a city planet

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-06-02 09:42pm

If I recall they moved everything to Coruscant when Ossus got hit with a supernova shockwave during the Great Sith War (the Exar Kun one, before all the KOTOR crap) about 4000 years ago.

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2005-06-02 10:54pm

Heres a question... If the Temple has been there for 1000+ years, why hasn't it 'sunk' into the constanly growing buildings around it?

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2005-06-02 10:56pm

Crossroads Inc. wrote:Heres a question... If the Temple has been there for 1000+ years, why hasn't it 'sunk' into the constanly growing buildings around it?

Perhaps it has......

Darth Sephiroth · Post by **Darth Sephiroth** » 2005-06-03 05:38pm

a newer one, one that probably replaced the one from the TotJ era

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-06-03 06:51pm

In making the prequels, Lucas forgot about Obi-Wan's 1000 generations line in ANH and instead made references to the destruction of the Sith and the formation of the Galactic Republic as being a mere 1000 years ago.

Palpatine´s exact words are "...this Republic, which has stood for a thousand years...", thus implying more than one incarnation of it. It´s as if history goes in cycles: Republic established, Sith uprising/defeat, Republic re-established...

Jason · Post by **Jason** » 2005-06-03 06:58pm

Thought this might be the best place for these questions. Are the Jedi an official branch of the government? Is that where they get their funding/resources?

I'd assume they are part of the executive branch.

Also, when children are identified as having an affinity for the Force, are they forcibly taken from their parents by the Jedi, or is it the parent's choice whether their children are raised by the Jedi or not?

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-06-03 07:00pm

Jason wrote:Thought this might be the best place for these questions. Are the Jedi an official branch of the government? Is that where they get their funding/resources?

I'd assume they are part of the executive branch.

They're part of Justice department of Republic.

Tychu · Post by **Tychu** » 2005-06-04 02:45am

Lord Revan wrote:
Drunk Monkey wrote:Didn’t they mention the temple being on Couracant in KOTOR, and that takes place about 5,000 years before ANH.
actually they say that High Council of the Jedi Order is in Corusant and IIRC they say outright that the Temple is in Corusant in Sith Lords (AKA KOTOR2)

wasnt the Jedi Temple on Dantooine during the KOTOR times?

Tychu · Post by **Tychu** » 2005-06-04 02:47am

VT-16 wrote:
In making the prequels, Lucas forgot about Obi-Wan's 1000 generations line in ANH and instead made references to the destruction of the Sith and the formation of the Galactic Republic as being a mere 1000 years ago.
Palpatine´s exact words are "...this Republic, which has stood for a thousand years...", thus implying more than one incarnation of it. It´s as if history goes in cycles: Republic established, Sith uprising/defeat, Republic re-established...

i believe that quote, i mean he also takes the time to tell every one that its the first Galactic Empire

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2005-06-04 02:47am

Tychu wrote:
Lord Revan wrote:
Drunk Monkey wrote:Didn’t they mention the temple being on Couracant in KOTOR, and that takes place about 5,000 years before ANH.
actually they say that High Council of the Jedi Order is in Corusant and IIRC they say outright that the Temple is in Corusant in Sith Lords (AKA KOTOR2)
wasnt the Jedi Temple on Dantooine during the KOTOR times?

Alternate. They did say the main was still on Coruscant.

GeneralTacticus · Post by **GeneralTacticus** » 2005-06-04 02:47am

There was an Enclave there for training purposes (up until Malak destroyed it, anyway), but the Temple itself was on Coruscant.

EDIT: Bah, GR beat me to it...

Tychu · Post by **Tychu** » 2005-06-04 02:49am

if the alternate temple was on Dantooine, why were the Jedi pretty much wiped out when the temple on Dantooine was destroyed? that dosent make sense, the thing i want to know is how the hell did the Sith become so powerful in the 5ish years after KOTOR that they were able to wipe the Jedi out in time for KOTOR2, i mean my version has the Jedi/Republic mopping the floor of the Sith