How many Fed shuttles at maximum warp can destroy a SD?

[Bounty]

The issue is whether or not the 'warp field' mitigates the interaction between the ship inside the field and the outer space-time continuum or not. If it doesn't, then what you described above is o-kay. If, however it does, then it could just have been a vibration/stress issue.

It don't think it does, at least not completely. We know space dust gets through - hance the need for deflectors. And in Divergence, we see a part of Enterprise brak off at warp - the grappler - and it immediately slows down and falls behind the ship, despite still being in the warpfield.

It's also the explanation given for the aerodynamic shape of Federation ships - to reduce the "drag" while at warp.

[Batman]

Then there is the part in Best of Both Worlds PT2 where Riker specificaly orders the Enterprise-D to prepared to ram the Borg ship at maximum warp speed.

Unless I'm very much mistaken Riker orders 'ramming speed'. Enterprise is decidedly sublight at that moment and I can't recall any mentioning of Warp in that scene.

Warp is pretty fucked up, thats about all I can really say about it.

You won't get no argument from me on that.

[Darth Wong]

Some things to consider about Warp.

When Voyager was heavily damaged in Year of Hell, when it passed Warp 5 you see pieces of the ship flying off in Warp as if it were a plane breaking apart by flying too fast in an atmosphere (brain hurts)

Crown already addressed this one.

Then there is the part in Best of Both Worlds PT2 where Riker specificaly orders the Enterprise-D to prepared to ram the Borg ship at maximum warp speed.

That would suggest that a warp-speed ram is going to hit harder than an impulse speed ram. It does not, however, validate any of these moronic claims being made by the wankers about "superluminal KE". In fact, it seems almost a certainty that at least one Fed ship has tried that at some point, either in BOBW or STFC. With the fate of the Earth at stake, surely at least one ship captain besides Riker would have decided to try and take the Borg cube with him by ramming it at warp, yet we saw in both BOBW and STFC that the cube was still there. Warp-speed ramming has probably been done, and without the uber-effects that the wankers would expect it to have.

Warp is pretty fucked up, thats about all I can really say about it.

There is no reason to believe that the BOBW incident contradicts anything I or anyone else has said about warp.

[Rye]

Unless I'm very much mistaken Riker orders 'ramming speed'. Enterprise is decidedly sublight at that moment and I can't recall any mentioning of Warp in that scene.

He definately does, I even recall making a thread about it here or PST when I first saw it.

[wilfulton]

Shit, at this rate we should just have Counsellor Troi load up on venereal diseases and send her over to "share the love" with the Imperial crew. I'd imagine they're mostly lonely men looking to get some excitement in their otherwise dull, dreary, boring lives.

It's biological warfare at its greatest.

[The Nomad]

Yeah. According to the old TM, there's a special kind of metal that warps spacetime if you hit it with plasma

In the show they don't say that explicitly, but the fact that the nacelles warp space is made pretty clear on numerous occasions.

IIRC in one episode of Voyager, the one with Paris seemingly leaving the crew then being purposedly captured by the Kazon, "corterium vertenide" is mentioned as the main acting component in warp nacelles. The stuff was fried when they vented plasma through the nacelles in order to cool down their warp core .
Is it just me or is it astoundigly bad engineering ?

[Executor32]

Only one, but that's only because the Imperials will be laughing so hard at such a ridiculous tactic that one of the bridge crew will accidentally hit the self-destruct while trying to keep from falling over with laughter.

[Lord Revan]

Only one, but that's only because the Imperials will be laughing so hard at such a ridiculous tactic that one of the bridge crew will accidentally hit the self-destruct while trying to keep from falling over with laughter.

this of assumes the self destruck is a single button.

[Executor32]

True, as the self-destruct on a Carrack is two panels on opposite ends of the bridge, but I also wasn't serious. Hence the .

[Connor MacLeod]

Then there is the part in Best of Both Worlds PT2 where Riker specificaly orders the Enterprise-D to prepared to ram the Borg ship at maximum warp speed.

Just to toss out an idea:

Going by Mike's explanation, he could have ordered "maximum warp" so as to a.) close the distance rapidly enough to deny the Borg the opportunity to shoot the vessel down, and b.) possibly generate a large enough Warp Field so as to encompass the Borg Cube on "contact".

From there, once the Cube (or even partt of it) is "inside" the field, it could possibly then either just "ram" directly or perhaps blow the M/A-M reactor. Either of which might be enough to destroy the Cube.

So the order to go at "maximum warp" may not really even have anything to do with the destructive effects of ramming the cube.

[Batman]

I'm still not certain he ordered Maximum Warp as opposed to simply Ramming Speed in the first place.

[petesampras]

How fast is startrek non-warp drive?
A piece of dog poo going sufficiently close to the speed of light would take down a star destroyer.

[Glimmervoid]

The equation is fairly simple.

X((0.5mvv+2Mcc)t+S)=7e22

Were x is the number of shuttles.
m is the shuttles mass.
v the speed it is moving at.
M the mass of antimatter on board.
c the speed of light.
t the time it takes all the shuttles to hit.
And S the shield strength of the shuttles.

[Glimmervoid]

I just redid my calculations and it came out as 38 shuttles to take down the shields. But I think I may have done something wrong.

[Batman]

Not only threadomancy but willful ignorance of facts as well. AMRE means all those calculations, right or wrong, go straight down the toilet even assuming Trek ships are that fast STL, leave alone shuttles. For which there is, of course, no evidence,