Ten Most Harmful Books of the 19th and 20th Centuries

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Xenophobe3691 wrote:So lemme see. You have the standard crap by the really bad Communists, Mein Kampf, Das Kapital (The Road to hell is paved with good intentions).

But everything else is about enlightenment, whether natural or self-oriented. No wonder my family isn't conservative...
Nitpick. Mein Kampf was Hitler’s book not a communist propaganda book.
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Frank Hipper wrote:
Superman wrote:No Bible OR Koran...
Were either written in the 19th or 20th centuries?
Yeah, what was the world like before the 19th century? Monolithic, theocratic, sexist, traditionalist, and patriarchial. Mike's right. They're poisoning the well before even starting.

My list probably wouldn't go to 10.

But the Torah, New Testament, Koran, Mien Kampf, Quotations of Chairman Mao, The Communist Manifesto, and Das Kapital all deserve to be on there.
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The whole thing is a hugely ludicrous False Cause Fallacy. Even if you wish to accept the absurd proposition that each and every one of those books was "bad" (an argument which is unsustainable on its face), it misses the point that books are nothing more than repositories of ideas. Mein Kampf in and of itself didn't suddenly turn the entire German population into killer Nazi robots, and the ideology of Social Darwinism did not spring from anything Charles Darwin actually wrote about in his descriptions of the natural world, to name but two examples as to why this list is bullshit; nevermind all the other examples which very clearly show the ideological biases of the compilers.
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These people actually think that the strong taking advantage of the weak (or as they call it, "social darwinism") was caused by Darwin's book "On the Origin of Species?" Do they not realize that this would imply that the strong never took advantage of the weak before Darwin published his book? Have they never picked up a history book?

PS. If we take their "science book causes whatever phenomenon it describes" mentality to its logical conclusion, Darwin should be blamed for the extinction of the dinosaurs. After all, the dinosaurs were made extinct by natural selection.
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Darth Wong wrote:These people actually think that the strong taking advantage of the weak (or as they call it, "social darwinism") was caused by Darwin's book "On the Origin of Species?" Do they not realize that this would imply that the strong never took advantage of the weak before Darwin published his book? Have they never picked up a history book?
Remember who were taking about here. These are the fuckers who are terrified of anything that shatters there narrow view of the world.
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Frank Hipper wrote:What I find infinitely telling is that The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is not on that list. :x
I looked at the thread title and thought, "Hmm, I wonder where the Protocols are on the list." I had it pegged no lower than 5.

What I don't get is why conservatives--who, Christian or neocon, think Israel is the best thing ever and then some--wouldn't put a virulently antisemetic book that's still being taught as fact to Arab schoolchildren on their list. I guess space had to be cleared for that wicked Darwin.
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A lot of conservatives support Israel without liking it. The fundies need it to exist as a precondition for the Rapture and the end of the world.
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Robert Walper wrote:I was honestly expecting the bible to be mentioned.
I really don't understand why it wasn't. :?:
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Jessickas Vivica wrote:
Robert Walper wrote:I was honestly expecting the bible to be mentioned.
I really don't understand why it wasn't. :?:
Apparently I misunderstood the article in question. The most harmful books written specifically in those centuries rather than any book of any century that argueably affected the 19th and 20th century.
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Jessickas Vivica wrote:
Robert Walper wrote:I was honestly expecting the bible to be mentioned.
I really don't understand why it wasn't. :?:
Why? Because look at the list. It attacks liberal economics, feminism, humanism and evolution. It's a fundamentalist pile of crap.
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Interesting though that "The Bell Curve" wasn't mentioned...
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Superman wrote:Interesting though that "The Bell Curve" wasn't mentioned...
The book was only in the news for about a year. The science was thouroughly discredited (although Scientific American was the only major media organization to actual check the science) and is now mostly irrelevant. It is racist crap, but I wouldn't call it one of the ten most damaging books of the 19th and 20th century at this point.
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Re: Ten Most Harmful Books of the 19th and 20th Centuries

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Nephtys wrote:Honestly, this is the biggest pile of agenda'ed crap ever. You can't group Stalin, Hitler and Mao with secular humanism, evolution, feminism, keynsian economics, and FDR.
Yeah, some thing that are on there definitely shouldn't be and visa versa. I can see how you would consider Kinsey harmful but Darwin? :roll:
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