What's the best way to discipline students?

wolveraptor · Post by **wolveraptor** » 2005-06-02 09:04pm

Master of Cards wrote:y school (Known to all to be very "PC" does not funk any one but nutures them in a loving envoiriment does not work bring out the paddle

Somebody mind translating?

The Spartan · Post by **The Spartan** » 2005-06-02 09:11pm

My school (Known to all to be very "PC") does not flunk anyone but nurtures them in a loving envoiriment. It does not work so they should bring out the paddle.

I think that is what it translates too. I think...

The Aliens · Post by **The Aliens** » 2005-06-02 09:12pm

Dumbass wrote:y school (Known to all to be very "PC" does not funk any one but nutures them in a loving envoiriment does not work bring out the paddle

Translation: My school is known to be very PC. It doesn't [flunk?] anyone, but nurtures them in a loving environment. This does not work, educators should bring out the paddle.

I'm not sure, I haven't spoke Moron in a few years, so I may be a little rusty.

wolveraptor · Post by **wolveraptor** » 2005-06-02 09:17pm

Forgive me for my acronym-ignorance, but what is PC?

The Spartan · Post by **The Spartan** » 2005-06-02 09:20pm

PC=Politically Correct

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2005-06-02 09:25pm

An escalating series of punishments. More serious offenses off course start higher in the 'punishment chain', and if one doesn't work, move to the next one.

1- Put them in the corner. Literally. Make them sit in the corner, without anything to do, for 30 minutes. You'd be amazed how fast I've seen this crack some smaller kids.

2- Post Class Detention. Keep the kid after school. Problem is, some parents might encourage this as it would cost less then babysitters.

3- Suspend the kid for a few days, and fine the parents for each day he must miss. This will cost the money for daycare, as well as the fine money. Have truant officers check if the kids are home alone. If they are, report the parents. We've found part of the problem....
[I admit, this one is iffy at best]

4- Summer School Detentions. For any punishment time left over that hasn't been served, must be surved in Summer school, or the kid doesn't advance to the next grade. Parents also have to pay for this (daycare rates 50%)

The reason I'm hitting the parents with fines is as people said, that's how to get to someone, hit them in the wallet. Find out you're going to have to shell out several thousand dollars for there kids to go back to school (and possibly even have to repeat the grade he was just in), they'll stay on the kids back and keep him in line.

Problem is, once a problem kid gets to be a teenager, they get the old "fuck school, I'll just get some job when I turn 16".

The only way I can think of to offset that is to pass a law requiring that you can't have a full time job unless you've graduated high school, no part time job unless you're in school with a decent average (say 70%) or passed the school year.
Truant officers could enforce this too. Go check the places that typically employe teenagers, get there names and schools, fine out there averages, and if they are below, fine the place employing them unless they give the kid there walking papers (and monitor the place to make sure they enforce it).

I admit, this could be a legal and logistical nightmare

The Aliens · Post by **The Aliens** » 2005-06-02 09:27pm

And getting on topic again, I think the best way for a teacer to discipline students is for the etacher to be worthy of respect. As soon as the class reallyy respects their teacer, they'll be more likely to want that teacher to succeed. therefore, when a kid does something he shouldn't, a simple "I'm disappointed that you did [whatever the kid did]. You know that's against the rules, and I don't want to see it happen again." If the class respects the teacher, the student who did something wrong will feel guilty from letting them down, and will likely think before doing the same thing again. Naturally, this only works in the case that the kid feels remorse, but if they contnue to be a dipshit to a well-liked teacher, they'll quickly turn the class against them. In the event the kid continues to be disrespectful, a trip to the principal puts the problem out of the hands of the teacher, and allows them to focus on teaching.

The Aliens · Post by **The Aliens** » 2005-06-02 09:31pm

Solauren wrote: Problem is, once a problem kid gets to be a teenager, they get the old "fuck school, I'll just get some job when I turn 16".

The only way I can think of to offset that is to pass a law requiring that you can't have a full time job unless you've graduated high school, no part time job unless you're in school with a decent average (say 70%) or passed the school year.
Truant officers could enforce this too. Go check the places that typically employe teenagers, get there names and schools, fine out there averages, and if they are below, fine the place employing them unless they give the kid there walking papers (and monitor the place to make sure they enforce it).

I admit, this could be a legal and logistical nightmare

This, however, isn't fair. A lot fo kids are incapable of getting good marks in school, but turn out to be remarkably good tradespeople and other more 'hands-on' jobs. Until you give the kids who get bored listening to a teacher talk and do the same repetitive activities a legitimate out for their frustration, and challenge them in a way where they can excel in something, it's not fair to hinge employment to academic cicumstance. I think that employers shuld be forced to give student enrolled in full-time education special considerations to allow them time off for exams and school activites (albeit at reduced wages to compensate), but they shouldn't be barred from work entirely.