Would you trash the EU?

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2005-06-04 01:38pm

Just a quick question because not everyone appreciates the concept of the EU. If you could, would trash the whole notion of the EU and just keep the Star Wars universe to the movies?

Yay or nay and why?

McC · Post by **McC** » 2005-06-04 01:40pm

I can't vote entirely yes, because there are some elements (Thrawn trilogy, foremost) that I actually like. But there's a lot of utter shit as well. Anything by KJA I would trash without batting an eye, for instance.

It's a toss-up. I think more harm than good has come from the EU, but the little good that has come from it has been really good, while the bad has been truly horrid.

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2005-06-04 01:44pm

I'm with McC. There's a lot of cool material that helps flesh out the universe, the ancient history stuff like the Sith Wars and other KotOR-era info is great. Adds a sense of depth and history. Likewise, a lot of post-RotJ stuff like the mentioned Thrawn trilogy and duology add flavor.

Then there's the truckload of stuff that really serves no purpose.

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-06-04 01:49pm

Yes and no, but mostly yes. The plots are just snoozers.

FedRebel · Post by **FedRebel** » 2005-06-04 01:51pm

EU is quite useful in many aspects.

Yes, there is some crap but that's essentially SW's version of "Voyager"

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2005-06-04 01:52pm

I say yes. Even though I like characters like Thrawn, I just don't like those books being "official" and up to the same level as the movies. I dunno why exactly, I just don't.

Ypoknons · Post by **Ypoknons** » 2005-06-04 01:53pm

Well Superman that might be just a problem with the cannon-ness of the EU, not so much the EU itself.

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-06-04 02:01pm

Superman wrote:I say yes. Even though I like characters like Thrawn, I just don't like those books being "official" and up to the same level as the movies. I dunno why exactly, I just don't.

Well they're not, technically.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2005-06-04 02:01pm

Vympel wrote:
Superman wrote:I say yes. Even though I like characters like Thrawn, I just don't like those books being "official" and up to the same level as the movies. I dunno why exactly, I just don't.
Well they're not, technically.

How's that? I thought it's "offcial."

Quadlok · Post by **Quadlok** » 2005-06-04 02:04pm

I wouldn't trash it because I would feel I'd wasted so much time reading the damn things. Its the same reason I don't really read Star Trek novels, because, when a book has all the relevancy of fan fiction, what's the point of even reading it. Yeah, it doesn't make much sense, but their you go.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2005-06-04 02:04pm

Superman wrote:
Vympel wrote:
Superman wrote:I say yes. Even though I like characters like Thrawn, I just don't like those books being "official" and up to the same level as the movies. I dunno why exactly, I just don't.
Well they're not, technically.
How's that? I thought it's "offcial."

Essentially the movie can override anything the Official cares to say.

As for me, so many of the plots were utterly blah, but there are some bright moments.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-06-04 02:06pm

No, not at all, although there are a few select titles that I would like to wipe their actual plots clean from existance, which it seems the rest of the EU has occasionally done.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2005-06-04 02:08pm

Yes and no.

I like the notion of an EU, but I don't like what was done with the EU. Sometimes I actually wish a big ol' reset button could be pushed and we can go back to square one, start again, and avoid the same mistakes.

But that would still mean an EU of some sort, just not the EU we have. So.. yes and no.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-06-04 02:08pm

if chose between trashing the whole EU or keeping the whole, I'd keep it, but trash just parts of the EU I would (like everything made by KJA)

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2005-06-04 02:13pm

No. The EU is fine as a concept. Some of its execution has been abysmal, but it's fine to expand Star Wars beyond the films.

Old Plympto · Post by **Old Plympto** » 2005-06-04 02:15pm

I don't look at the Star Wars universe primarily for the acting, the scriptwriting, the tales told about it which might well just be "something based on a legend" type of deal. I look at it from a world-building viewpoint... or an anthropologist's viewpoint. The people, the creatures, the politics, the military, the locations, the planets...

Can't rely on purely the movies for these. Direct stories like those of KJA's and that Waru disaster be damned.

Mad · Post by **Mad** » 2005-06-04 02:17pm

Master of Ossus wrote:No. The EU is fine as a concept. Some of its execution has been abysmal, but it's fine to expand Star Wars beyond the films.

Same. There should've been another poll option, "Don't trash it, just re-do it. Better, this time." (Bringing balance to the EU?) There's some really good stuff and some really bad stuff.

FTeik · Post by **FTeik** » 2005-06-04 02:27pm

I'd also prefer keeping the gems and trash the rest.

We don't know how a re-do would turn out and we would lose the gems we have so far, so no, let it be. Better the devil you know.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2005-06-04 02:50pm

Keep it, the good stuff far outweighs the bad.

Of course, alot of people would disagree with me considering most of post-ROTJ EU good.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2005-06-04 02:56pm

There's alot of good stories I've read, and wouldn't mind reading again. But get rid of the wanking areas of the EU, like the DS2 being constructed in, like what, six months?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-06-04 02:57pm

That's not wanking, Walper, that illustrates the industrial capacity of a galactic organisation.

McC · Post by **McC** » 2005-06-04 02:59pm

Robert Walper wrote:There's alot of good stories I've read, and wouldn't mind reading again. But get rid of the wanking areas of the EU, like the DS2 being constructed in, like what, six months?

That'd be filmic canon, not EU. You lose.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2005-06-04 03:03pm

From what I've heard, weirdo b10t3k space invaders from the great beyond and crap, some of the EU isn't really Star Wars. But all I've read from the EU is just one of them X-Wing books by Stackpole. So whatever. I like the movies, and I think that they > the EU. Some disagree though, saying that the EU pwns what George Lucas, the guy who fucking made Star Wars, created. That true fans and shit should read the EU, that EU's oh so this and that and so oooh and crap. Fuck that. If George wants to, he can shit on the EU and there's not a thing anyone could do about it. Star Wars is his, dammnit. And I'll be damned if some "EU" ursurps George Lucas and the universe he created. [/end rant]

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2005-06-04 03:04pm

McC wrote:
Robert Walper wrote:There's alot of good stories I've read, and wouldn't mind reading again. But get rid of the wanking areas of the EU, like the DS2 being constructed in, like what, six months?
That'd be filmic canon, not EU. You lose.

How exactly? The six months thing comes from Shadows of the Empire. IIRC.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2005-06-04 03:07pm

McC wrote:
Robert Walper wrote:There's alot of good stories I've read, and wouldn't mind reading again. But get rid of the wanking areas of the EU, like the DS2 being constructed in, like what, six months?
That'd be filmic canon, not EU. You lose.

Where does it state in the film the DS2 was constructed to that point in six months?

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