Could Federation medical technology help Vader?

[Sothis]

Knowing what we know of Vader's injuries and knowing what we know of Federation medical technology, it occurs to me that the Feds may be able to restore Vader's lungs, or at least give him 'bionic' lungs that would free him from the limitations of his suit.

We know that the Federation can give people bionic hearts (Picard for example), and there was an episode of TNG (I forget what it's called) where Worf injures his spine and a new spine was 'grown' for him using his own DNA as a template (though this was experimental technology). The latter method might even be able to be used to restore Vader's limbs, though in DS9, Nog was given a prosthetic leg (just after 'The Siegh of AR-558'), which suggests the only advantage the Federation has in limb replacement technology is in terms of appearance.

[avatarxprime]

Well as far as the spine replacement went, they stated in the ep that the only reason it was possible was because the Klingon body had so many redundant systems. Also, Star Wars medical technology could probably have done just fine in healing Vader, but it would have made him more autonomous. Palpatine would want Vader to remember that he is now Vader for life and can never go back to being Anakin. By healing him completely he could have his former image restored and would lose that aspect of psychological control over Vader.

[General Zod]

Knowing what we know of Vader's injuries and knowing what we know of Federation medical technology, it occurs to me that the Feds may be able to restore Vader's lungs, or at least give him 'bionic' lungs that would free him from the limitations of his suit.

We know that the Federation can give people bionic hearts (Picard for example), and there was an episode of TNG (I forget what it's called) where Worf injures his spine and a new spine was 'grown' for him using his own DNA as a template (though this was experimental technology). The latter method might even be able to be used to restore Vader's limbs, though in DS9, Nog was given a prosthetic leg (just after 'The Siegh of AR-558'), which suggests the only advantage the Federation has in limb replacement technology is in terms of appearance.

palpatine can clone new bodies at will and transfer someones consciousness into them, force powers and all. so it's doubtful that st medical tech would be of any significant benefit.

[Kamakazie Sith]

Knowing what we know of Vader's injuries and knowing what we know of Federation medical technology, it occurs to me that the Feds may be able to restore Vader's lungs, or at least give him 'bionic' lungs that would free him from the limitations of his suit.

We know that the Federation can give people bionic hearts (Picard for example), and there was an episode of TNG (I forget what it's called) where Worf injures his spine and a new spine was 'grown' for him using his own DNA as a template (though this was experimental technology). The latter method might even be able to be used to restore Vader's limbs, though in DS9, Nog was given a prosthetic leg (just after 'The Siegh of AR-558'), which suggests the only advantage the Federation has in limb replacement technology is in terms of appearance.

palpatine can clone new bodies at will and transfer someones consciousness into them, force powers and all. so it's doubtful that st medical tech would be of any significant benefit.

When was it revealed that he could transfer just anyones consciousness into the new clones? I thought that ability was limited to his own.

[General Zod]

Knowing what we know of Vader's injuries and knowing what we know of Federation medical technology, it occurs to me that the Feds may be able to restore Vader's lungs, or at least give him 'bionic' lungs that would free him from the limitations of his suit.

We know that the Federation can give people bionic hearts (Picard for example), and there was an episode of TNG (I forget what it's called) where Worf injures his spine and a new spine was 'grown' for him using his own DNA as a template (though this was experimental technology). The latter method might even be able to be used to restore Vader's limbs, though in DS9, Nog was given a prosthetic leg (just after 'The Siegh of AR-558'), which suggests the only advantage the Federation has in limb replacement technology is in terms of appearance.

palpatine can clone new bodies at will and transfer someones consciousness into them, force powers and all. so it's doubtful that st medical tech would be of any significant benefit.

When was it revealed that he could transfer just anyones consciousness into the new clones? I thought that ability was limited to his own.

wasn't there something about how he experimented on other people to perfect the procedure? notably individuals that displeased him? i seem to recall hearing about that, but i can't remember where it's from offhand.

iirc his perfection of it came about through torturing the guy who designed the death star with the flaw in the ventillation shaft, that was exploited by the rebel alliance.

[Grandmaster Jogurt]

Bevel Lemelisk was transfered to new bodies by Palpatine after being tortured to death repeatedly for his mistakes.

[Eleas]

When was it revealed that he could transfer just anyones consciousness into the new clones? I thought that ability was limited to his own.

In KJA's idiotic novel Darksaber (I think), it was revealed that Bevel Lemelisk had been cloned and transferred an unspecified multitude of times.

[Kamakazie Sith]

When was it revealed that he could transfer just anyones consciousness into the new clones? I thought that ability was limited to his own.

In KJA's idiotic novel Darksaber (I think), it was revealed that Bevel Lemelisk had been cloned and transferred an unspecified multitude of times.

That explains a lot. Emphasis mine.

[Eleas]

When was it revealed that he could transfer just anyones consciousness into the new clones? I thought that ability was limited to his own.

In KJA's idiotic novel Darksaber (I think), it was revealed that Bevel Lemelisk had been cloned and transferred an unspecified multitude of times.

That explains a lot. Emphasis mine.

Indeed. Seriously, even his Young Jedi Knights series was better written and plotted.

[Vympel]

Well as far as the spine replacement went, they stated in the ep that the only reason it was possible was because the Klingon body had so many redundant systems. Also, Star Wars medical technology could probably have done just fine in healing Vader, but it would have made him more autonomous. Palpatine would want Vader to remember that he is now Vader for life and can never go back to being Anakin. By healing him completely he could have his former image restored and would lose that aspect of psychological control over Vader.

That's false. This notion that Palpatine wanted Vader to end up like that lost all credibility with RotS. That was the best they could do, with the exception of putitng some artificial skin on his limbs, which was unecessary.

[Ender]

The problem with cloned replacement organs/limbs is the aging process. You need the limbs for a 20 year old in a few hours, so you need to adjut the rate at which the cells grow so that they will be ready then. The problem is that the cells will keep growing at that rate inside the persons body, making them useless in short time. The mechanical iron lung bit is pretty much as good as it gets.

Vymp, I'd say that Sidious's views about Vader's suit being a jewelbox would suport the idea that Sidious liked him being in the suit.

I supposse Feddie cosmetic surgery might help him somewhat.

[Vympel]

Vymp, I'd say that Sidious's views about Vader's suit being a jewelbox would suport the idea that Sidious liked him being in the suit.

On its own, perhaps, but Sidious triumphant claim that Darth Vader would be more powerful than either Yoda or Darth Sidious, and the novelization's own references to Vader's reduced power due to his being half-machine (either psychological as Publius speculated or physical) would definitely indicate he wanted Anakin as originally sold, or as close as possible to that. His joy at seeing the suit I think is best interpreted as his apprentice still being alive.

[Kaintukee_Bob]

Everyone seems to be forgetting Luke's hand. It looks and feels normal, and he can feel pain in it (says "Ow" when the droid pokes it, IIRC).

IIRC, that's far above what the Feddies can do.

[Lone_Prodigy]

We have to remember– not only did he lost his lungs, but he also lost all four limbs, virtually all of his skin except for his face, and he probably got fourth-degree burns (to muscle and bone) all over his body. Fed tech could cure one or two of those, but all at once? No way in hell.

[Uraniun235]

The problem with cloned replacement organs/limbs is the aging process. You need the limbs for a 20 year old in a few hours, so you need to adjut the rate at which the cells grow so that they will be ready then. The problem is that the cells will keep growing at that rate inside the persons body, making them useless in short time. The mechanical iron lung bit is pretty much as good as it gets.

Err... so how did Worf's replacement spine work, then?

[Stark]

I think they replicated a new one somehow, so that it was the same age as Worf but otherwise normal.

[Lord Poe]

Hey, Vader can walk, talk, jump, do backflips, have lightsaber fights, and torture his daughter.

What can Captain Pike do?

[FTeik]

Wasn't the replacement-spine of Worf a failure? And he only survived because of those many natural extra-systems of his body.

[General Zod]

The problem with cloned replacement organs/limbs is the aging process. You need the limbs for a 20 year old in a few hours, so you need to adjut the rate at which the cells grow so that they will be ready then. The problem is that the cells will keep growing at that rate inside the persons body, making them useless in short time. The mechanical iron lung bit is pretty much as good as it gets.

Err... so how did Worf's replacement spine work, then?

some treknobabble about klingons having multiple redundant organs that enabled him to accept it where a regular human wouldn't have been able to cope.

[The Grim Squeaker]

Why would he have a redundant spine? A heart is one thing but this is just Treknobabble.

Also arent lava fumes poisonous? i doubt he could have resisited them without using the force so to top it all off he was poisoned too

[General Zod]

Why would he have a redundant spine? A heart is one thing but this is just Treknobabble.

spines aren't organs. try using a dictionary before spouting off inane nonsense.

[The Grim Squeaker]

Sorry didnt see the organ's part

[NecronLord]

Not really. To fix him up you need Dr Who or Stargate grade medical uberness.

[Darth Wong]

They need the medical reconstruction technology from The Fifth Element. Those guys can reconstruct an entire person from a few cells.

Although it should be pointed out that we don't entirely understand this whole "midichlorian" business. If those things are not present in cloned tissue, then a Sith Lord would be better off keeping mangled and cybernetically enhanced organs than replacing them with cloned ones.

[NecronLord]

They need the medical reconstruction technology from The Fifth Element. Those guys can reconstruct an entire person from a few cells.

Off topic, I wonder why that device needed living cells.