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Star Trek Nemesis First Look!!!!

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Go To:
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It's pretty cool, It might restore my Faith slightly in Trek Films.
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Pretty Cool? Evil Picard? Bio Weapons... Super Cloaks, So much tecnobabble you can't shake a stick at it because of subspace resoun.... DAMN now I'm doing it too, Yes that much

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For people who don't have broadband I took the liberty to snap a few screen shots from the trailer.


http://members.shaw.ca/dmz/STX1.jpg
First picture is of the Remin Targetting a unshielded E-E Engineering section.

The resulting attack does little damage to the E-E

Phaser Deathblossom.
http://members.shaw.ca/dmz/STX2.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/dmz/STX3.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/dmz/STX4.jpg

So much for the Old Vs debate Phallacy"Fed vessels can only fire 1 phaser array at a time."

Enjoy.:)
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wasnt the first look the trailer that was included in the new Star Trek III special edition DVD?
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Mr Bean wrote:Pretty Cool? Evil Picard? Bio Weapons... Super Cloaks, So much tecnobabble you can't shake a stick at it because of subspace resoun.... DAMN now I'm doing it too, Yes that much
Rather then use Technobable to find the cloaked ship Picard order full phaser fire from all arrays. The E-E was averaging 4 shots per second and they were firing EVERYWHERE. They also used the rear torp launcher to fire one 4 torpedo burst and then a 5 torpedo burst in the span of less then 2 seconds.

No technoshit to defeat the enemy, just pure firepower.
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Laird wrote:For people who don't have broadband I took the liberty to snap a few screen shots from the trailer.

The resulting attack does little damage to the E-E
Duh- maybe that's because the purpose is to disable the weapons, just like Shinzon orders?
Phaser Deathblossom.

So much for the Old Vs debate Phallacy"Fed vessels can only fire 1 phaser array at a time."
Well victory for the Feds is assured now :roll:
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Alyeska wrote:
Rather then use Technobable to find the cloaked ship Picard order full phaser fire from all arrays. The E-E was averaging 4 shots per second and they were firing EVERYWHERE. They also used the rear torp launcher to fire one 4 torpedo burst and then a 5 torpedo burst in the span of less then 2 seconds.

No technoshit to defeat the enemy, just pure firepower.
Very admirable. Whoever wrote that one deserves credit in all seriousness. We've seen the E-D fire many of its phaser arrays before in a TNG episode IIRC.

GODDAMIT THEY CHANGED THE PHOTON TORPEDOES FUCKING AGAIN. LEAVE EM ALONE IN BETWEEN FILMS GODDAMITTTTT
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Vympel wrote:
Alyeska wrote:
Rather then use Technobable to find the cloaked ship Picard order full phaser fire from all arrays. The E-E was averaging 4 shots per second and they were firing EVERYWHERE. They also used the rear torp launcher to fire one 4 torpedo burst and then a 5 torpedo burst in the span of less then 2 seconds.

No technoshit to defeat the enemy, just pure firepower.
Very admirable. Whoever wrote that one deserves credit in all seriousness. We've seen the E-D fire many of its phaser arrays before in a TNG episode IIRC.

GODDAMIT THEY CHANGED THE PHOTON TORPEDOES FUCKING AGAIN. LEAVE EM ALONE IN BETWEEN FILMS GODDAMITTTTT
Changed? We already know from Insurrection that this particular aft launcher fires Photon Torpedoes. We already saw another clip that still shows Quantum Torpedoes from the forward launcher.

Or do you mean how the torpedoes look in general? For all we know these are upgraded torpedoes.
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Rather then use Technobable to find the cloaked ship Picard order full phaser fire from all arrays. The E-E was averaging 4 shots per second and they were firing EVERYWHERE. They also used the rear torp launcher to fire one 4 torpedo burst and then a 5 torpedo burst in the span of less then 2 seconds.

No technoshit to defeat the enemy, just pure firepower.
Very admirable. Whoever wrote that one deserves credit in all seriousness. We've seen the E-D fire many of its phaser arrays before in a TNG episode IIRC.

GODDAMIT THEY CHANGED THE PHOTON TORPEDOES FUCKING AGAIN. LEAVE EM ALONE IN BETWEEN FILMS GODDAMITTTTT
Changed? We already know from Insurrection that this particular aft launcher fires Photon Torpedoes. We already saw another clip that still shows Quantum Torpedoes from the forward launcher.

Or do you mean how the torpedoes look in general? For all we know these are upgraded torpedoes.
The rear firing photons don't look anything like torpedoes- i don't know what they were- they didn't have the flashing spinning ball look
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Vympel wrote:The rear firing photons don't look anything like torpedoes- i don't know what they were- they didn't have the flashing spinning ball look
They didn't have the flashing spinning ball look in Insurrection either. We also see them come from the same location that the torpedoes from Insurrection came from.
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Alyeska wrote:
Vympel wrote:The rear firing photons don't look anything like torpedoes- i don't know what they were- they didn't have the flashing spinning ball look
They didn't have the flashing spinning ball look in Insurrection either. We also see them come from the same location that the torpedoes from Insurrection came from.
I've only seen Insurrection once- and I could barely see the torpedoes- I preferred the First Contact ones.
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Vympel wrote:
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Vympel wrote:The rear firing photons don't look anything like torpedoes- i don't know what they were- they didn't have the flashing spinning ball look
They didn't have the flashing spinning ball look in Insurrection either. We also see them come from the same location that the torpedoes from Insurrection came from.
I've only seen Insurrection once- and I could barely see the torpedoes- I preferred the First Contact ones.
The FC Quantums or Photons?
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I do have to say one thing about that clip:


That Reman ship is BADASS!! 8)
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photons- the quantums in FC and Nemesis seemed the same
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And they're using less technobabble. E-E fires phasers everywhere and the instant they hit the Reman ship's shields, the phasers concentrate fire on that spot.

Not technobabble, and quite intelligent. :)
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Shinova wrote:I do have to say one thing about that clip:


That Reman ship is BADASS!! 8)
Would be interested to know what those blue beams are. The last time we saw blue bolts was the BoP in ST:v (shudder)
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I just stated a fact that in vs debates that it is generally accepted or said "1 hit to a fed ships warpcore or nacelle" will turn them into cosmic road kill.

Second point is also valid point"Fed ships only use 1 phaser array at a time and fire at close ranges" well the point of the pictures proves that..I didn't say it would "assure victory!!!!" or come in screaming like a tardcake"STAR TREKZ OWNZ JOO!".


Now that I made my point I will not bother debating with someone below me who can't debate with out opening witha flame.

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Shinova wrote:And they're using less technobabble. E-E fires phasers everywhere and the instant they hit the Reman ship's shields, the phasers concentrate fire on that spot.

Not technobabble, and quite intelligent. :)
And by quite intelligent you mean "not stupid." :)
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I wonder how long it will take some one to make an arguement about fedration ships weapons accuracy?
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Laird wrote:I wonder how long it will take some one to make an arguement about fedration ships weapons accuracy?
No complaints here. They can whine all they want about the E-Es accuracy against a CLOAKED target. :twisted:
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For christ's sake folks, the movie is not even out yet. Give it a rest until its on screen. There's just not enough info from these trailers to make a succinct argument.
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I just stated a fact that in vs debates that it is generally accepted or said "1 hit to a fed ships warpcore or nacelle" will turn them into cosmic road kill.
Actually, Lairdy ol' chap, I thought it was pretty much accepted that the Uber-Fragile Warpcore O' Death was a design flaw in pretty much the Galaxy-class only.

Last I checked, the E-E ain't a GCS... :D
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SPOOFE wrote:
I just stated a fact that in vs debates that it is generally accepted or said "1 hit to a fed ships warpcore or nacelle" will turn them into cosmic road kill.
Actually, Lairdy ol' chap, I thought it was pretty much accepted that the Uber-Fragile Warpcore O' Death was a design flaw in pretty much the Galaxy-class only.

Last I checked, the E-E ain't a GCS... :D
A design flaw limited to the first models at that. Later models and upgrade fixed the problem.
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Alyeska wrote:
SPOOFE wrote:
I just stated a fact that in vs debates that it is generally accepted or said "1 hit to a fed ships warpcore or nacelle" will turn them into cosmic road kill.
Actually, Lairdy ol' chap, I thought it was pretty much accepted that the Uber-Fragile Warpcore O' Death was a design flaw in pretty much the Galaxy-class only.

Last I checked, the E-E ain't a GCS... :D
A design flaw limited to the first models at that. Later models and upgrade fixed the problem.
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My only gripe is that they didn't use Admiral Sela (sp?) instead of Schizon. Why would the Romulans/Remans clone picard in the first place?
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