Star Trek Nemesis First Look!!!!

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-22 01:33am

Master of Ossus wrote:
Alyeska wrote:
SPOOFE wrote: Actually, Lairdy ol' chap, I thought it was pretty much accepted that the Uber-Fragile Warpcore O' Death was a design flaw in pretty much the Galaxy-class only.

Last I checked, the E-E ain't a GCS...
A design flaw limited to the first models at that. Later models and upgrade fixed the problem.

What's next, the Scimitar being replaced by the Klingon Bird or Prey from ST:VI?

Scimitar could whup that BOPs ass anyday

*Watch out. Shinova is in the process of becoming a Scimitar fanboy

*

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-11-22 01:42am

Shinova wrote:My only gripe is that they didn't use Admiral Sela (sp?) instead of Schizon. Why would the Romulans/Remans clone picard in the first place?

Agreed. Sela would have made this a far more personal battle.

Laird · Post by **Laird** » 2002-11-22 01:46am

SPOOFE wrote:
I just stated a fact that in vs debates that it is generally accepted or said "1 hit to a fed ships warpcore or nacelle" will turn them into cosmic road kill.
Actually, Lairdy ol' chap, I thought it was pretty much accepted that the Uber-Fragile Warpcore O' Death was a design flaw in pretty much the Galaxy-class only.

Last I checked, the E-E ain't a GCS...

Quiet you!

Yea well I always assumed it was a general Idea it was all fed ships were made out to be like this.

In the eyes of the Non trek side.

Sorry it has been a good long time since I actually debated ST vs SW so I am probally outdated.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-22 01:47am

Forget my Sela post. I just saw some stuff on a website that sort of explained Shinzon's purpose but posting here would be posting spoilers.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2002-11-22 12:18pm

anything's better than insurection.

from what i've seen so far it seems Paramount locked up Bragga and Berman in the Enterprise set :

one can only hope

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2002-11-22 01:09pm

Hm I just thought this about the even/odd Star Trek sequel curse...

Anyone else thinks that they make odd movies crappy on purpose, so that all even movies will always be great by comparison?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-11-22 01:11pm

Hmmm maybe after 6 or so...I sorta doubt they wanted to make 1 crappy so 2 would look good

THEHOOLIGANJEDI · Post by **THEHOOLIGANJEDI** » 2002-11-22 01:47pm

Vympel wrote:photons- the quantums in FC and Nemesis seemed the same

I don't think they used quantum Torps in Insurrection.

Rightous Fist Of Heaven · Post by **Rightous Fist Of Heaven** » 2002-11-22 02:54pm

THEHOOLIGANJEDI wrote:I don't think they used quantum Torps in Insurrection.

Actually they did when the 2 Son'a ships were chasing the E-E the E-E fired a QT from its rear launcher at the pursuing Son'a vessels.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-11-22 03:09pm

Rightous Fist Of Heaven wrote:Actually they did when the 2 Son'a ships were chasing the E-E the E-E fired a QT from its rear launcher at the pursuing Son'a vessels.

Incorrect. It fired 2 photon torpedoes from its aft launcher.

THEHOOLIGANJEDI · Post by **THEHOOLIGANJEDI** » 2002-11-22 03:17pm

Alyeska wrote:Incorrect. It fired 2 photon torpedoes from its aft launcher.

Exactly, They didn't look like Q torps at all!! then Again that also could be attributed to crappy Special Effects.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-11-22 03:24pm

THEHOOLIGANJEDI wrote:Exactly, They didn't look like Q torps at all!! then Again that also could be attributed to crappy Special Effects.

Unlikely given that we see the E-E fire photons from this very same launcher in Nemesis.

Alyeska, you too...

THEHOOLIGANJEDI · Post by **THEHOOLIGANJEDI** » 2002-11-22 03:27pm

Alyeska wrote:Unlikely given that we see the E-E fire photons from this very same launcher in Nemesis.

No, I mean the Torps looked shitty compared to FC, as for Nemesis I thought those were pulse Phasers.

Hooligan, please snip... ~Crayz9000

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-22 05:05pm

THEHOOLIGANJEDI wrote:Unlikely given that we see the E-E fire photons from this very same launcher in Nemesis.

No, I mean the Torps looked shitty compared to FC, as for Nemesis I thought those were pulse Phasers.[/quote]

Actually, if you think about it, why would a solid object (A photon/quatum torpedo) look like a ball of light? I think the new look in Nemesis portrays the torpedoes in a more realistic manner.

Shinova, please snip extraneous quotes. ~Crayz9000

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2002-11-22 05:28pm

I'm pretty sure that the reason they cloned picard is some sort of psychic connection. Thats what Shinzon implies, that he sees exactly what picard sees. Tho, it should be noted, that Shinzon seems to be little more then a slave to the Remans. I can well guess that at some point Shinzon will turn good but not soon before dying.

Dark Primus · Post by **Dark Primus** » 2002-11-22 06:14pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:anything's better than insurection.

from what i've seen so far it seems Paramount locked up Bragga and Berman in the Enterprise set : one can only hope

It was totally a new writer who wrote Nemesis so B&B probably didn't have much to say about it.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-11-22 07:10pm

Alyeska wrote:
Shinova wrote:My only gripe is that they didn't use Admiral Sela (sp?) instead of Schizon. Why would the Romulans/Remans clone picard in the first place?
Agreed. Sela would have made this a far more personal battle.

And made the WOK ripof even more transparent.

It has explosions in space. I'll see it.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-11-22 08:16pm

Ender wrote:
Alyeska wrote:
Shinova wrote:My only gripe is that they didn't use Admiral Sela (sp?) instead of Schizon. Why would the Romulans/Remans clone picard in the first place?
Agreed. Sela would have made this a far more personal battle.
And made the WOK ripof even more transparent.

It has explosions in space. I'll see it.

Really. WOK involved the Romulans, a cloaking ship, a ship that was vastly more powerful then the Enterprise. It inolved the daughter of a former Enterprise crew member. It involved finding an android?

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2002-11-22 11:07pm

Usually, I know a lot of thebackgorun characters in Trek, but who is Admiral Sela and what episode was he/she in?

I feel guilty for having a look at the vide clip, I didn't do that for AOTC, because I didn't want to spoil the movie for myself.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-11-22 11:16pm

FaxModem1 wrote:Usually, I know a lot of thebackgorun characters in Trek, but who is Admiral Sela and what episode was he/she in?

I feel guilty for having a look at the vide clip, I didn't do that for AOTC, because I didn't want to spoil the movie for myself.

She is Tasha Yar's daughter who just happens to be half Romulan.

Laird · Post by **Laird** » 2002-11-22 11:18pm

FaxModem1 wrote:Usually, I know a lot of thebackgorun characters in Trek, but who is Admiral Sela and what episode was he/she in?

I feel guilty for having a look at the vide clip, I didn't do that for AOTC, because I didn't want to spoil the movie for myself.

Sela is a Alternate Timeline daughter of Tasha Yar who was sent back in time by alternate picard on the Enterprise-C.

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2002-11-22 11:24pm

Oh yeah, HER, now that would have been an excellent choice. Oh well, btw how did Sela die? I just remeber her disappearing after the Klingon Civil War.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-11-22 11:24pm

FaxModem1 wrote:Oh yeah, HER, now that would have been an excellent choice. Oh well, btw how did Sela die? I just remeber her disappearing after the Klingon Civil War.

She didn't, she just disapeared as you said.

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2002-11-23 01:07am

Oh, ok, thanks for the info.

Now that I have a had a look at the Remans, I am going to hope that Romulans will eventually offer them good Dentists instead of British ones.

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2002-11-23 01:30am

I must say, Nemisis looks as if it just might be a good movie. Now as long as I see a fleet battle I will be happy.

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