Sith vs Bush

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Does Revenge of the Sith criticize George W. Bush?

Yes, it does, and the criticism is deserved
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10%
Yes, it does, but the criticism is not deserved
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4%
Maybe, it does, but no one cares
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15%
Not really. Any similarities are just coincidences
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24%
No, it does not. Someone is just chasing windmills for controversy
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:Actually, bin Laden shouldn't be Palpatine, but Dooku. And then Bush'll tell Tony Blair to decapitate him :lol:
Nah, Tony should be Dooku,
Bush is just a mindless puppet:wink: , no one can be that stupid without being mindfucked by a sith :lol:
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:Christ. Imagine George Bush with the capacity to shoot out Sith lightning :shock:
Meh, not scared. Boy George can barely aim stright with laser-guided smart missiles, are we honestly going to say he can now aim something like force lightning? :lol:

Besides he would have trouble getting the catch phrase right:

"Behold my UNLIM...err, UNLIMIN...UNLIT...UNLIMITI...aw fuck it. Watch this asshole!"

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18-Till-I-Die wrote:
Shroom Man 777 wrote:Christ. Imagine George Bush with the capacity to shoot out Sith lightning :shock:
Meh, not scared. Boy George can barely aim stright with laser-guided smart missiles, are we honestly going to say he can now aim something like force lightning? :lol:

Besides he would have trouble getting the catch phrase right:

"Behold my UNLIM...err, UNLIMIN...UNLIT...UNLIMITI...aw fuck it. Watch this asshole!"

This Bush joke was brought to you by Air America Radio...i'm Al Franken, and i approve this message.
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Post by tean-kun »

Okay, here is my opinion.

I don't think there is a connection considering Lucas dreamt of the story at least three decades ago and, as stated, these quotes are quite general and go back millennia. More to the point, Lucas just wants to tell a story, not influence political thought.

As for Bush, while I am not a die hard fan of Bush, I don't think of him as evil nor do I think of his as a brainless off. I just accept the fact he makes mistakes like all of us. Unfortunately, some extremists see him as an incompetent despot and are constantly attacking him. So, those who support him are always on the defensive and thus look for attacks (which aren't always legit).
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:Christ. Imagine George Bush with the capacity to shoot out Sith lightning :shock:
He wouldn't be able to resist the urge to show himself off in the mirror, and then wouldn't figure out how to stop himself while his flesh burned off.
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Post by Trooper TK12746 »

This topic seems to be turning into a Bush bashing session.
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Post by wilfulton »

For the record, no government that forbids you from hating it is worth loving.

I think sometimes critics go out of their way looking for a fight. And some of them are probably deserving of the title "asshat" or "shitstain."

It might also be some other would-be loser simply trying to draw attention to himself in the ageless spirit of "Oh lookie here! I have a point! Everyone listen to me!"

Beyond that, I don't really care what the critics think, ultimately it boils down to whether or not I enjoyed the movie. Overall, I say somebody is just chasing windmills for controversy.

Hmm...
will we get to see a windmill joust a la Don Quixote? :P
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If Palpatine is Bush, what does that make Yoda? Saddam Hussein? :lol: I'm not buying it.
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Post by Srynerson »

A simple chronology of the PT demonstrates that, even setting aside the OT, Lucas cannot have intended the overall series to bash Bush.

The Phantom Menace: Released May 1999 - before Bush even declared his candidacy for the presidency, let alone got elected.

Attack of the Clones: Released May 2002 - written before Bush was elected and principal filiming was completed pre-9/11/PATRIOT Act (it was already in post-production by the time of the attacks).

Revenge of the Sith: Released May 2005 - written and filmed post-9/11/PATRIOT Act.

As can be seen, only one of these films can even possibly have been intended as a critique of Bush, and since RotS doesn't significantly diverge from the established plotline, that seems unlikely. The "If you're not with me, you're my enemy!" line is the only dig at Bush I can even halfway see, and as pointed out by others, Bush doesn't hold a copyright on that sentence.
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Oh, this guy himself had a poll about Sith on his website which had "won't see it due to liberal slant" was in the lead last I saw.

It is still up

For those of you who want to swing the vote where it should be, send me a personal message and I'll send you a link. Sure this will leave him no longer nameless, but I doubt anybody is going to care much less mind.
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