Should Hayden Be Unmasked In ROTJ?

Instant Sunrise · Post by **Instant Sunrise** » 2005-06-15 09:28pm

The redeemed Anakin is a bald torso.

Yet the original force-ghost of shaw had hair, and arms. Hence why I believe that the Shaw ghost was actually Anakin, pre-Vader, the face of that changed with RotS, and the DVD's reflected that. Thats all my opinion, anyway.

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2005-06-15 09:31pm

skyman8081 wrote:The redeemed Anakin is a bald torso.

Yet the original force-ghost of shaw had hair, and arms. Hence why I believe that the Shaw ghost was actually Anakin, pre-Vader, the face of that changed with RotS, and the DVD's reflected that. Thats all my opinion, anyway.

Thats pretty much how Lucas rationalized it.

LaserRifleofDoom · Post by **LaserRifleofDoom** » 2005-06-15 10:12pm

I've always liked the old look for the Anakin ghost in RotJ. I felt that it represented how Anaking should have looked. If he hadn't turned into Darth Vader, he would have become a slightly plump Jedi Master.

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-06-15 10:20pm

LaserRifleofDoom wrote:I've always liked the old look for the Anakin ghost in RotJ. I felt that it represented how Anaking should have looked. If he hadn't turned into Darth Vader, he would have become a slightly plump Jedi Master.

You're joking, right? The Chosen One becomes a jolly chubby Jedi Master? I'm thinking a younger Qui-Gon Jinn. I don't know why you got the impression that Sebastian Shaw was slightly plump, though ...

Never say never. If Lucas is still around when the Next Big Thing in home video formats comes around, I can see him dipping back for a Special Special Edition.

Rest assured that there's going to be another edition. You can't let the wonky lightsabres and the occasionally spotty sound of the 2004 DVD alone. Next box set, I tell ya.

Post by **Kuja** » 2005-06-15 10:21pm

No. I disliked Hayden being put into ROTJ as a ghost, and I most certainly would not like to see him in the unmasking.

Cykeisme · Post by **Cykeisme** » 2005-06-16 07:21am

I was about to express my agreement that Anakin's Force spirit should be aged, but skyman8081 pointed out that as he is, he's a bald, scarred torso.

Now bear with me for this next sentence: if Anakin's spirit isn't going to appear as it actually is (scarred, limbless), then it's more likely that it'll look like how Anakin last looked (young), rather than a "what if" appearance.

As an aside, Lucas' whole take on Anakin "dying" when he became Vader is interesting; it probably means that the image of Anakin you see at the end of RotJ isn't just the Anakin who was on Mustafar... it's really Anakin from sometime before the point in time where he severed Mace Windu's hand at the wrist.

This is a piss in the wind, but I'd like to mention that the idea about a person ceasing to exist and becoming a different person when they finally fall to the Dark Side is portrayed nicely in the Star Wars roleplaying game. When you gain that final Dark Side Point that pushes your DSP total over half your Wisdom score, the player loses control of his character, and the character becomes a gamemaster NPC to use as he sees fit (typically as a villain).

Btw, to all the posts that have the effect of "oh, Vader's unmasking was totally unimportant", my typical voluminous verbosity fails and all I can really respond with is, "What the fuck?"