What if Dooku hired someone else to be cloned for the army?

Pcm979 · Post by **Pcm979** » 2005-06-18 11:32am

Note; Spartans aren't born with their abilities; It takes a coupla decades of extensive engineering which about 25% of the candidates live through and some highly expensive powered armour.

Skelron · Post by **Skelron** » 2005-06-18 11:55am

Matt Huang wrote:ohh, evil idea: Legolas.

Then we get space-elf-eldar-wannabes with plenty of firepower, and even if they are grown-accelerated, a pretty long lifetime by human standards ahead of them.

Bah if it's Spacedy Elves you want why settle for second best... Eldred Ulthwe with the 'Eldar are the best all you Mon-Keigh are scum' aspects of Keigh Personality removed.

Of ccourse old Palpy might have a small problem but it's a small price to pay for finally defeating the Jedi....

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-06-18 12:00pm

Wagh not Da Boyz, Orkiez no need na stinky clony tink, da boyz get biggy wibout dem weeny humiez

Darth Sephiroth · Post by **Darth Sephiroth** » 2005-06-18 04:54pm

What about the cloned, alien-hybrid Ellen Ripply from Alien Resurection. Acid blood may be a little bit of a downside, but super strength, some sort of mental link (at least with Xenomorphs, probably with other hybrids as well), and capable of being scary to boot. That is not to mention some of the other benefits.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2005-06-18 05:01pm

with the Ripley deal, you also get genetic memory, which will screw you over later on.

DocHorror · Post by **DocHorror** » 2005-06-18 05:04pm

Actually, I'll go one further than Captain Scarlett and suggest Ace Rimmer. Imagine an army of them! Dashing, brave, great pilots, tough and modest.

Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-06-19 07:20am

DocHorror wrote:Actually, I'll go one further than Captain Scarlett and suggest Ace Rimmer. Imagine an army of them! Dashing, brave, great pilots, tough and modest.

Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.

What about lord flashheart, any female jedi will instantly change sides

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2005-06-21 04:32pm

Many of you still seem to believe that behaviour, personality traits and so on are 100% genetic as proven by your assumptions that, say, a clone of James T. Kirk would have Kirk's leadership skills.

This is why I the smartest thing to do is pick characters who are explicitly identified as genetic supermen in their respective source materials - such as Paul Atreides, Jerome from Gattaca or Sephiroth from FF7. (unless, of course, if Sephy's white hair and pale complexion happen to be caused by albinism, which usually also is accompanied by significantly impaired vision... not a desirable trait in a soldier)

RRoan · Post by **RRoan** » 2005-06-21 05:50pm

Any one of the people in the Ringworld books that were bred for luck. Imagine an army of people for whom good luck actually affects them. Give them good military training and you've got one of the best armys in the galaxy.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2005-06-21 06:00pm

RRoan wrote:Any one of the people in the Ringworld books that were bred for luck. Imagine an army of people for whom good luck actually affects them. Give them good military training and you've got one of the best armys in the galaxy.

"I like this jedi."

*Luck intervenes by giving Palpatine a heart attack and quintiple-brain-hemmorage before he can issue order 66.

Lord of the Abyss · Post by **Lord of the Abyss** » 2005-06-21 10:13pm

How about Thandi Pavane from Weber's Crown of Slaves ?

She's moderately superhuman, smart, and aggressive while still being willing to take orders.

Some of these proposed clone templates would sooner or later inevitably turn on their creators "who Tampered In God's Domain !" and take over or kill them.

Sephiroth did just that,after all.

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-06-21 11:47pm

Lord of the Abyss wrote:How about Thandi Pavane from Weber's Crown of Slaves ?

She's moderately superhuman, smart, and aggressive while still being willing to take orders.

Some of these proposed clone templates would sooner or later inevitably turn on their creators "who Tampered In God's Domain !" and take over or kill them.

Sephiroth did just that,after all.

They would be brainwashed from day0 like the regular clones.

Lord of the Abyss · Post by **Lord of the Abyss** » 2005-06-22 12:11am

They would be brainwashed from day0 like the regular clones.

Yeah, but the regular clones weren't Jenova enhanced or bred for luck - selfish luck. If you intend to use superhumans, I'm saying you should use ones that don't have wierd, hard to control powers that will go out of control as per standard SF plot policy.

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-06-22 12:50am

Lord of the Abyss wrote:
They would be brainwashed from day0 like the regular clones.
Yeah, but the regular clones weren't Jenova enhanced or bred for luck - selfish luck. If you intend to use superhumans, I'm saying you should use ones that don't have wierd, hard to control powers that will go out of control as per standard SF plot policy.

That would be violating one of the great tenents of sci-fi

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Also how exactly would the clones abilities affect their training from the time they come out of the cloning tankm (even while theyre still in the tank according to Republic Commando).

Cloning Doomsday could work, after all his "only" abilities are strength, toughness and regeneration

Lord of the Abyss · Post by **Lord of the Abyss** » 2005-06-22 01:16am

Also how exactly would the clones abilities affect their training from the time they come out of the cloning tankm (even while theyre still in the tank according to Republic Commando).

Well, Sephiroth - clones would all be affected by the Jenova cells inside them; they appear to have an agenda of their own.

Genetic luck is worse - it acts for the benefit of the gene, and can apparently work across time and space. The "luck" of future clones or descendants of clones will reach back in time and screw up your plans royally.

Stick with strength, speed and toughness. At least then, at worst they beat you up and shoot you - you won't end up destroying humanity or something equally drastic.

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-06-22 01:22am

An army of post Halo, Flood enhanced Sarges. (he can actually regenerate)

Could anything beat an army of kryptonians or doomsdays? (except Oan's)

Darth Sephiroth · Post by **Darth Sephiroth** » 2005-06-22 01:38am

Matt Huang wrote:with the Ripley deal, you also get genetic memory, which will screw you over later on.

Possibly, you would probably have some sort of wierd hive instinct between them though, and you would probably need special acid resistant armor. In exchange, they're faster, stronger, and probably more coordinated. There is possibly full telepathic contact between them.

They probably wouldn't obey order 66 (or any other that doesn't suit them though) and if they kept updating the DNA, they wouldn't have to keep training more, just cloning them.

Lord of the Abyss · Post by **Lord of the Abyss** » 2005-06-22 01:47am

How about Schlock from Schlock Mercenary ?

His genetic memory means no training or brainwashing neccessary - just clone him, pay him and pour him into the Clonetrooper armor.

Of course, there will be a small hit on the Clonetrooper army's reputation when they "Burn them and eat the ashes", but you must admit it would be fun to watch.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2005-06-22 01:59am

I thought about it earlier tonight,how about *Dog the bounty Hunter*

Sharpshooter · Post by **Sharpshooter** » 2005-06-23 09:11pm

I've got another one: Aya Brea of Parasite Eve. Abilities include the ability to heal injuries, resist extremily high temperatures, and increase metabolic and synaptic levels to super-human levels.

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What if Dooku hired someone else to be cloned for the army?

Who's genes would make the best clonetrooper?