[Evilness] Empire vs Dominion

[Admiral Piett]

[Actually, the average joe is perfectly fine with the Empire - or did you forget that Luke's friends were going to the Imperial military academy - unless you are suggesting that the rebellion actually operates a legitimate military academy that the Empire hasn't destroyed?

It could have been a merchant marine academy,maybe sponsored by the empire but still civilian.

[Ghost Rider]

I was a military academy, but these guys were practically yokels who saw this as the only way out of town.

I mean seriously the Empire was a government, not a nice one but one nonetheless who promoted the rule through fear doctrine.

[THEHOOLIGANJEDI]

The Empire, BDZ, Death Stars, Galaxy Gun, Sun Crusher, World Devastators, that would put me in line, they are more evil, besides the Dominion is B&B evil, AKA The Diet Coke of Evil (Just one calorie, not even enough)

B&B didn't write or have anything to do with DS9 as far as I know, which is why the show was halfway decent and even very entertaining at times. As for the Question, I would say the Empire is far more evil. They lost a war to the Rebellion and kept fighting to the end. The Dominion pursued peace when victory was not an option for them.

[BabelHuber]

You can be jewish and not look a damn thing like the stereotype. So your attempt to paint being jewish as being a distinctive race is just stupid.

ROFLOL! You are right, of course. This isn´t my opinion, this is just Nazi ideology. This was meant to be a mere example for the difference of a Nazi regime and a fascist regime. From what I have seen, the Empire is 'only' a fascist regime because they don´t kill people because they are of a different race, religion or whatever else, not taking into account if the definition itself is valid.

Of course Vader and the Emperor must try to kill the Jedis, but not because they dyslike them, but because they are objectively seen the biggest danger to their government. This is the difference.

[Dark Primus]

The Empire, BDZ, Death Stars, Galaxy Gun, Sun Crusher, World Devastators, that would put me in line, they are more evil, besides the Dominion is B&B evil, AKA The Diet Coke of Evil (Just one calorie, not even enough)

Yes and the Founders can blow up stars killing everything and everyone in the system.

[Dark Primus]

Oh and i just read Agents of Chaos II. The Centerpoint station seemed to to have a massive firepower capable to destroy and move stars too? That is evil.

[Ender]

the Empire is 'only' a fascist regime because they don´t kill people because they are of a different race, religion or whatever else, not taking into account if the definition itself is valid.

Of course Vader and the Emperor must try to kill the Jedis, but not because they dyslike them, but because they are objectively seen the biggest danger to their government. This is the difference.

They saw forceusers as a threat and hunted them all down. They almost exterminated an entire religion. How is that not like the Nazi's claiming the Jews were a threat, hunting them down, and almost exterminating their religion in Europe?

[Ender]

Oh and i just read Agents of Chaos II. The Centerpoint station seemed to to have a massive firepower capable to destroy and move stars too? That is evil.

The Empire didn't know it had those capabilities and never used it as a result

[Master of Ossus]

Oh and i just read Agents of Chaos II. The Centerpoint station seemed to to have a massive firepower capable to destroy and move stars too? That is evil.

The Empire was never able to use Centerpoint, which was actually created by a massively powerful alien race in the distant past. The same race also created the Kessel Maw, and moved all of the Corellian planets into orbit around the Corellian star, for unknown reasons.

[une]

I was a military academy, but these guys were practically yokels who saw this as the only way out of town.

It's, technically, not an Imperial academy. The Academy is nothing more than a training ground for people who want to get a job on a space ship. It teaches you the basic skills needed, like repair and piloting, you pick the area you want to attend, merchant or military for example. Biggs was put on a merchant ship after he graduated.

Problem is, although you aren't required to go into the military, you will most likely be drafted. According to Biggs, this was happening alot. So while it may not technically be an Imperial Academy, that's what it's purpose was quickly becoming.

My source for all this is the ANH Radio Drama. I also belive they have said something about this on the official site as well.

[Crayz9000]

Oh and i just read Agents of Chaos II. The Centerpoint station seemed to to have a massive firepower capable to destroy and move stars too? That is evil.

Yeah. Well, given that it is is a very powerful gravitic weapon, it should be very easy for it to induce premature compression in a star's core. It doesn't even have to use technobabble like the Sun Crusher.

I actually think it would have been hilarious if Anakin had simply thrown a star at the Yuuzhan Vong fleet

[Crayz9000]

The Empire was never able to use Centerpoint, which was actually created by a massively powerful alien race in the distant past. The same race also created the Kessel Maw, and moved all of the Corellian planets into orbit around the Corellian star, for unknown reasons.

According to the Corellian Trilogy, the architecture of the Corellian System was to allow all five planetary repulsors to "link" with Centerpoint Station, basically giving the station almost extragalactic range.

[BabelHuber]

They saw forceusers as a threat and hunted them all down. They almost exterminated an entire religion.

By definition, Jedis and Siths are enemies. When one group takes control of the galaxy, their opponents are hunted down. The Jedis in the Old Republic didn´t like the Siths to much, too, did they?

How is that not like the Nazi's claiming the Jews were a threat, hunting them down, and almost exterminating their religion in Europe?

You are right: The Nazis claimed that the Jews were a threat, yet this was pure ideology, supported by lies and ideology. No sane person can say the Nazis had valid arguments for their treatment of Jewish citicens. OTOH, the Jedis are a threat to Vader and Palpatine, perhaps even the only one. If Palpatine wants to stay in power, he has to get rid of the Jedis in the long run. If this doesn´t make a difference, then what else?