Would holodeck technology find a market in Wars galaxy

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Would holodeck technology find a market in Wars galaxy

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Through an act of technobabble, Ferengi merchants with AQ holodeck technology ends up in the Wars galaxy. Like the stereotypical ferengi Trek has made them, they decide to try to trade some of their technology.

So would their holodeck technology be superior to wars hologram tech? Would it find a market (assuming Wars races can mass produce the tech).
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Would it find a market (assuming Wars races can mass produce the tech).
Reproducing it shouldn't be a problem. Forcefield and holographic technology exists, it's only a matter of properly combining the two.
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Holographic technology in starwars TMK is not “hard light”. So yes they would find it useful. However star wars hologram projectors seem a lot more portable(with the exception of the doctors emitter(Voy). So it might be possible to combine the to and have portable holo decks.

I could see it becoming very possible as it would eliminate prostitution (lets face it that’s what its mostly going to be used for) and also good combat training environment.
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star wars hologram projectors seem a lot more portable(with the exception of the doctors emitter(Voy).
That was 29th Century Fed tech, and they couldn't duplicate it.

Interestingly, early TNG had smaller Wars-style holograms, but they seem to have dissapeared...
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Bounty wrote:
star wars hologram projectors seem a lot more portable(with the exception of the doctors emitter(Voy).
That was 29th Century Fed tech, and they couldn't duplicate it.

Interestingly, early TNG had smaller Wars-style holograms, but they seem to have dissapeared...
And thats why I did not use it as the rule.
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Hadn't Lando built an amusement park called "hologram world"? (I can't remember it that well)
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Tribun wrote:Hadn't Lando built an amusement park called "hologram world"? (I can't remember it that well)
That was from those acursed "Prince of the Jedi" books. It may have been mentioned in other material, but generally, stuff in that series is non-continuity.
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Vice always pays, so I forsee these Ferengi becoming very, very rich.

Unless the Empire decides the tech is militarily useful, in which case it and the Ferengi "dissapear".
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Tribun wrote:Hadn't Lando built an amusement park called "hologram world"? (I can't remember it that well)
That was from those acursed "Prince of the Jedi" books. It may have been mentioned in other material, but generally, stuff in that series is non-continuity.
It's been mentioned in more sources than just that book to my knowledge.
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Lord of the Abyss wrote:Unless the Empire decides the tech is militarily useful...
Holodeck technology is a dual-use technology, useful to the Empire-- to any military organization-- for combat training in a controlled environment. The US military is using video games for this purpose, so holodecks are a logical evolutionary step.

It's a pity that 'Trek' keeps using holodecks for civilian entertainment-- it's useful for that, but to not portray the holodeck's military uses is like portraying hunting knives as something a fisherman uses to skin fish, and never as a weapon. What were the producers thinking?!
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Those gun nuts do not understand the meaning of "overkill," and will simply use weapon after weapon of mass destruction (WMD) until the monster is dead, or until they run out of weapons.

They have more WMD than there are monsters for us to fight. (More insanity here.)
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It's a pity that 'Trek' keeps using holodecks for civilian entertainment-- it's useful for that, but to not portray the holodeck's military uses is like portraying hunting knives as something a fisherman uses to skin fish, and never as a weapon. What were the producers thinking?!
Gene Rodenberry was well known to be a pacifist.
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I must say Roddenberry is a deluded pacifist, like Jeannette Rankin-- she cast the only vote against the US's entry to WW2 after the attack on Pearl Harbor. Again, what the hell were the 'Trek' producers thinking?! That if you simply bend over like a prison bitch and beg, "Please don't hurt me," no one will take advantage of you?!
Please do not make Americans fight giant monsters.

Those gun nuts do not understand the meaning of "overkill," and will simply use weapon after weapon of mass destruction (WMD) until the monster is dead, or until they run out of weapons.

They have more WMD than there are monsters for us to fight. (More insanity here.)
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It's a pity that 'Trek' keeps using holodecks for civilian entertainment-- it's useful for that, but to not portray the holodeck's military uses
The holodeck was used for HTH training (TNG) and combat training (VOY).

What other "military" uses are you thinking of ?
Again, what the hell were the 'Trek' producers thinking?! That if you simply bend over like a prison bitch and beg, "Please don't hurt me," no one will take advantage of you?!
TOS - Roddenberry's main work - can hardly be accused of being too pacifist.
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Sidewinder wrote: It's a pity that 'Trek' keeps using holodecks for civilian entertainment-- it's useful for that, but to not portray the holodeck's military uses is like portraying hunting knives as something a fisherman uses to skin fish, and never as a weapon. What were the producers thinking?!
"The Magnificant Ferengi" was one episode where the Holodeck was used for traning for combat, although that is an anomoly in the trek universe.
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Why would the Empire need holodecks for military training? Simulators seem to do just as good a job and they're less likely to go wrong. In SW we've seen figher sim's ATAT Sims and the Capital ships are already able to use low powers TL's to paint a target for wargames. Quite simply Holodecks aren't needed
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Bounty wrote:TOS - Roddenberry's main work - can hardly be accused of being too pacifist.
It is not. The militristic aspects of Kirk were the influence of the Studio. TNG is what Rodenberry always wanted the Federation to be like.
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Lord Pounder wrote:Why would the Empire need holodecks for military training? Simulators seem to do just as good a job and they're less likely to go wrong. In SW we've seen figher sim's ATAT Sims and the Capital ships are already able to use low powers TL's to paint a target for wargames. Quite simply Holodecks aren't needed
Easier replication of odd planetary environments and conditions, perhaps?
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I can't remember if it's in the YJK or the JJK books, but in one of them the kids visit Lando's latest venture: an amusement park. Basically, it's based on holograms, and they recommend that Lando try and make the holograms react to the visitors. It's pretty clear that a market would exist--if only for relatively high-end entertainment centers.
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Lord Pounder wrote:Why would the Empire need holodecks for military training? Simulators seem to do just as good a job and they're less likely to go wrong. In SW we've seen figher sim's ATAT Sims and the Capital ships are already able to use low powers TL's to paint a target for wargames. Quite simply Holodecks aren't needed
Holodecks would be useful for training ground troops
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Holodecks would be useful for training ground troops
The Kaminoans had massive adaptable training chambers that could be altered in terms of terrain, enviorment, and size to suit any condition. Plus, they could actually involve real equiptment and weaponry, so they were emmensly better (and they dont malfunction and kill the user for no apparent reason.)
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Noble Ire wrote:
Holodecks would be useful for training ground troops
The Kaminoans had massive adaptable training chambers that could be altered in terms of terrain, enviorment, and size to suit any condition. Plus, they could actually involve real equiptment and weaponry, so they were emmensly better (and they dont malfunction and kill the user for no apparent reason.)
A holodeck would be able to do the same while taking up much less space. Although the equipment may not be real, provided it functions in the same manner real equipment would, where's the difference? Also, holodecks only seem to malfunction horrendously when creating AI characters. Simple environments alone don't seem to present that problem.
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A holodeck would be able to do the same while taking up much less space. Although the equipment may not be real, provided it functions in the same manner real equipment would, where's the difference? Also, holodecks only seem to malfunction horrendously when creating AI characters. Simple environments alone don't seem to present that problem.
You have a point, and perhaps reports of holodeck malfunctions have been greatly exaggerated. Conceeded.
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Noble Ire wrote:
A holodeck would be able to do the same while taking up much less space. Although the equipment may not be real, provided it functions in the same manner real equipment would, where's the difference? Also, holodecks only seem to malfunction horrendously when creating AI characters. Simple environments alone don't seem to present that problem.
You have a point, and perhaps reports of holodeck malfunctions have been greatly exaggerated. Conceeded.
If holodeck malfunction issues were common outside of exploration ships on the fringe involving strange phenomenon of the week, you'd figure they'd stop using them.
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General Zod wrote: If holodeck malfunction issues were common outside of exploration ships on the fringe involving strange phenomenon of the week, you'd figure they'd stop using them.
Considering fed capacity for hardship, it was one of the few sources for entertainment and luxury in multi year voyages (All the Book's, movies, games were in the holodeck).
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Military training holodecks would still make a convenient target for Rebel Terrorists. Holodeck sabotage, e.g. disabling safety interlocks, is easier to arrange and safer for the Rebel slicer than an ambush against training troopers and crew.
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