Aayla Secura vs. Asajj Ventress

Jack Bauer · Post by **Jack Bauer** » 2005-06-29 02:57am

Discuss.

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-06-29 05:09am

Asajji Ventress took on multiple jedi in a fair fight and held her own (SW Jedi: Mace Windu), She is indubitably stronger than Aurra sing but since Aayla beat Sing it would be close.

I'd still stay Ventress though, she has consistently held her own against powerful jedi (Obi Wan, DS Raging Anakin) and her 2 saber fighting styles are designed to crush any normal jedi who isnt exceptionally fast or strong in the force.

Corection: Asajj Ventress

Old Plympto · Post by **Old Plympto** » 2005-06-29 07:09am

the .303 bookworm wrote:Asajji Ventress

Nope. I'm pretty sure Order 66 got it right the first time.

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-06-29 07:16am

Old Plympto wrote:
the .303 bookworm wrote:Asajji Ventress
Nope. I'm pretty sure Order 66 got it right the first time.

Just checked it, youre right

Darth Lucifer · Post by **Darth Lucifer** » 2005-06-29 12:43pm

I'm going with Miss Ventress on this one. She took on the Chosen One and definitely gave him a run for his money; if it wasn't for the fact that Anakin had a mechanical hand, she may have beaten him. (Clone Wars).

BTW, whatever happened to her? Someone told me she didn't survive the purge, but I can't find anything to back up that assumption except that I think it would be in Darth Vader's nature to hunt the bitch down for some payback.

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-06-29 12:45pm

Mario1470 wrote:I'm going with Miss Ventress on this one. She took on the Chosen One and definitely gave him a run for his money; if it wasn't for the fact that Anakin had a mechanical hand, she may have beaten him. (Clone Wars).

BTW, whatever happened to her? Someone told me she didn't survive the purge, but I can't find anything to back up that assumption except that I think it would be in Darth Vader's nature to hunt the bitch down for some payback.

Anakin later beat her with the force and killed her, she was cloned by Dooku and found by Obi-Wan, I'm not sure about what happened next. (SW: obsession 4) but I think that Obi redeemed her after a fight.

Grasscutter · Post by **Grasscutter** » 2005-06-29 01:09pm

the .303 bookworm wrote: Anakin later beat her with the force and killed her, she was cloned by Dooku and found by Obi-Wan, I'm not sure about what happened next. (SW: obsession 4) but I think that Obi redeemed her after a fight.

She hijacks the medical ship Obi Wan places her on, using the Force to convince the pilot to take them as far from Dooku, the war, and the Jedi as possible. I think Alpha is also on that ship, having been shot through the spine earlier in the same comic by a droid.

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-06-29 01:12pm

Grasscutter wrote:
the .303 bookworm wrote: Anakin later beat her with the force and killed her, she was cloned by Dooku and found by Obi-Wan, I'm not sure about what happened next. (SW: obsession 4) but I think that Obi redeemed her after a fight.
She hijacks the medical ship Obi Wan places her on, using the Force to convince the pilot to take them as far from Dooku, the war, and the Jedi as possible. I think Alpha is also on that ship, having been shot through the spine earlier in the same comic by a droid.

Didnt Alpha go bat shit insane becuse of jJango's memories

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-06-29 04:20pm

As much as I love blue Twi''lek chicks Aayla ain't probaly gonna win, as she's more a Jedi Spy then a Jedi Warrior.

000 · Post by **000** » 2005-06-29 08:29pm

Ventress was defeated on Coruscant by Skywalker. She was critically injured, not killed. Dooku recovered her and had her given reconstructive surgery (she had an artificial eye at the very least). Anakin (once again) fatally wounded her; her presumably-dead body was placed on a medical transport where she woke up, having slowed her life functions to near zero using a sith techinique. She tells the pilots to fly far away from Dooku and the war, and that's the last we see of her.

Alpha was stabbed through the spine by Grievous and put on a different medical shuttle. That's the last time he was seen.

Alpha 02, AKA Spar, AKA Mandalore the Resurrector, is the rogue clone trooper who eventually succumbed to clone madness.

Lone_Prodigy · Post by **Lone_Prodigy** » 2005-06-30 12:20am

Alpha 02, AKA Spar, AKA Mandalore the Resurrector, is the rogue clone trooper who eventually succumbed to clone madness.

Is it ever revealed what happened to him? Did he try to reform the Mandalorian Supercommandos?

Grasscutter · Post by **Grasscutter** » 2005-06-30 01:04am

gladius wrote:Ventress was defeated on Coruscant by Skywalker. She was critically injured, not killed. Dooku recovered her and had her given reconstructive surgery (she had an artificial eye at the very least). Anakin (once again) fatally wounded her; her presumably-dead body was placed on a medical transport where she woke up, having slowed her life functions to near zero using a sith techinique. She tells the pilots to fly far away from Dooku and the war, and that's the last we see of her.

Alpha was stabbed through the spine by Grievous and put on a different medical shuttle. That's the last time he was seen.

Alpha 02, AKA Spar, AKA Mandalore the Resurrector, is the rogue clone trooper who eventually succumbed to clone madness.

Ah, my mistake. Looked like the same shuttle when I read it in the store.

Also, I think Asajj takes it for the reasons everybody has elaborated on already. Excellent combatant who has given some of the Jedi Order's finest fighters a hard time.

Seeing Red · Post by **Seeing Red** » 2005-06-30 02:04am

Secura comes across as being generally a bit weaker and less capable of a fighter than Ventress, especially in the excellent Star Wars Clone Wars series

000 · Post by **000** » 2005-06-30 03:49pm

Lone_Prodigy wrote:Is it ever revealed what happened to him? Did he try to reform the Mandalorian Supercommandos?

Yes, he went on to become the first mandalore in generations and reunited the scattered mandalorians in diaspora into a central force again... operating under the aegis of the CIS. They attacked Kamino and devastated the cloning facilities a couple of years into the war.

Lone_Prodigy · Post by **Lone_Prodigy** » 2005-06-30 05:08pm

gladius wrote:
Lone_Prodigy wrote:Is it ever revealed what happened to him? Did he try to reform the Mandalorian Supercommandos?
Yes, he went on to become the first mandalore in generations and reunited the scattered mandalorians in diaspora into a central force again... operating under the aegis of the CIS. They attacked Kamino and devastated the cloning facilities a couple of years into the war.

Wow, what else came of it? Were they exterminated?

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2005-06-30 06:03pm

Lone_Prodigy wrote:
gladius wrote:
Lone_Prodigy wrote:Is it ever revealed what happened to him? Did he try to reform the Mandalorian Supercommandos?
Yes, he went on to become the first mandalore in generations and reunited the scattered mandalorians in diaspora into a central force again... operating under the aegis of the CIS. They attacked Kamino and devastated the cloning facilities a couple of years into the war.
Wow, what else came of it? Were they exterminated?

Midway through the war, the Repulbic laid a trap for the Commandos and they were all but exterminated. Spar was forced to flee into seclusion in some Outer Rim nebula, where he slowly succumed to his madness and was eventually killed by bounty hunter Ailyn Vel, who had a grudge against Boba Fett and misidentified Spar as being him.

Spartan · Post by **Spartan** » 2005-07-01 12:27pm

Ayla Secura's not that weak, sure she's going down but she did defeat Aura Sing after all. A feat that four different Jedi council members and several other masters failed to do.

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-07-01 12:37pm

Spartan wrote:Ayla Secura's not that weak, sure she's going down but she did defeat Aura Sing after all. A feat that four different Jedi council members and several other masters failed to do.

Sing never fought more than 1-3 jedi at a time, Ventress fought far more experienced jedi and owned most of them.
Sing fight's dirty (explosive's, sniper rifle) while Ventress is dedicated to saber combat and force powers.

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Aayla Secura vs. Asajj Ventress

Aayla Secura vs. Asajj Ventress

Ventress.