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The End of Mech Engineering?

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the end of the m.e.?

They call this "convergence." Old lines are changing, or disappearing altogether. What it's doing under the hood is downright electrifying.
by Peter W. Huber and Mark P. Mills

The turf still divides up quite neatly. The electrical engineers move the light stuff?electrons, power, bits, and logic. The mechanical engineers do the heavy lifting; they move atoms. And, like it or not, the MEs still control most of the real estate.

Look at our cars. They're made of big heavy things that shake, bounce, and sway; they're propelled by pistons, shafts, gears, and belts; controlled by shafts, gears, valves, and hydraulic fluids. All the really important parts go click-click, bang-bang. The car is a 100 kW (peak) machine. The stuff that hums instead of clanking, the electric load, peaks at 2 kW.

Mechanical engineers control most of the rest of our energy economy, too. The United States consumes 100 quadrillion Btus, or quads, of raw thermal energy every year, in three broad sectors?electric power, transportation, and heat?with consumption split (roughly) 40-30-30 among the three. But electric power plants themselves are mainly thermomechanical: The furnaces, boilers, and turbines themselves consume over half of the fuel; only about 16 quads worth of mechanical energy actually get to the shafts that spin the generators that dispatch the gigawatt-hours.

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Komatsu's 930E is a 2,000 kW truck. A 16-cylinder diesel engine drives a generator that powers electric motors on the wheels.

It doesn't have to be that way, and pretty soon it won't be. General Electric's 4,400-horsepower, diesel-electric GEVO-12 locomotive is powered by an enormous, diesel-fueled engine-driven generator; everything beyond is electric. Komatsu's 930E?a monster mining truck with 320-ton capacity?is propelled by a 2-megawatt Detroit diesel-electric generator. Everything else, right down to the 12-foot wheels, is driven electrically. Submarines have been largely all-electric for decades, and the surface ships now on the Navy's drawing boards are all-electric, from the propeller to the guns. Thermomechanical engines are still the prime movers on all of these platforms, but what they move is electricity. An on-board generator powers an all-electric drivetrain; an electric motor drives the propeller or wheels.

Electric drives are taking over because an electrical bus can convey far more power in much smaller, lighter conduits, and do it far more precisely and reliably, than even the best designed mechanical drivetrain. Indeed, on the key metrics of speed and power density, the electrical powertrain is about five orders of magnitude better. Electricity moves at close to the speed of light; all thermal and mechanical systems move at the speed of sound, or slower. It takes 10,000 driveshafts in 10,000 redlining Pontiacs to convey about as much power (1 gigawatt) as a single power plant dispatches down a few dozen high-voltage cables. By a very wide margin, electricity is indeed the fastest and densest form of power that has been tamed for ubiquitous use.

But precisely because it is so fast and dense, electricity is inherently difficult to control. Direct-drive electrical systems are fast all right, but they tend to jitter, overshoot, jerk out of control, and fall off the edge. The solution, historically, has been to get mechanical again?wrap the electric coils and magnets around heavy, inertial, and frictional components to get back to a simple and steady source of mechanical power?rotating a shaft, say?which can then be channeled through gears, belts, hydraulic fluids, and other arrays of click-click, bang-bang logic well before it reaches the final payload. Until recently, direct-drive electrical movers?systems in which the power stays electric right down to the very threshold of payload?have remained the exception, not the rule.


Power in Control


But big motors and their electric power supplies can now be built compact and precise enough to mimic the small muscles of a hand. A key breakthrough occurred in 1982, when Hans Becke and Carl Wheatley (both at RCA) were granted a patent for what is now called the insulated gate bipolar transistor. IGBTs are high-power semiconductor gates. They control kilowatts almost as efficiently as logic semiconductors control the picowatts that we call bits.

Sensors have also become sufficiently small, fast, and accurate to provide real-time feedback of what's happening at the payload. And cheap microprocessors are now readily available to make sense of it all, and to constantly recalculate how much power to dispatch to the drive to make it do exactly what's needed.

Supplied with a suitably shaped and amplified stream of power, a loudspeaker vibrates a diaphragm through a Beethoven symphony; do the same with a hundred kilowatts, and you can run a Pontiac. What's new now is that inexpensive semiconductors are available to provide the extraordinarily precise control of very large amounts of electric power, at very low cost, in very compact controllers.

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The sidestick, being tested by Mercedes-Benz, is part of a fully computer-controlled car handling system of the possibly near future.

Because they move less material in the middle, direct-drive powertrains have far less inertia and friction; and because they are informed by very fast sensors controlled by computers they can react much faster to the outside world. Direct-drive motors can thus reach levels of precision that are completely unattainable with any conventional technology. With less weight in the powertrain, and fewer moving parts, direct-drives are also more robust. Pneumatic and hydraulic fluids leak, turn into molasses when they get cold, and are easily contaminated. Shafts, belts, and pulleys need lubricants, and get bent out of shape when they expand or contract. They corrode and need periodic maintenance. Electric wires don't.

The transformation is already well under way in the car's peripheral systems. The belts and pulleys that drive water and oil pumps, and radiator cooling fans, are giving way to electric motors. The best brakes are already electrohydraulic; all-electric brakes will follow. With electronic throttles, the gas pedal sends electrical instructions to a microprocessor that controls the fuel injection system electronically. Drive-by-wire electric power steering began appearing in production vehicles in 2001. Passive, reactive, energy-dissipating springs and shock absorbers are being displaced by an active array of powerful linear motors that move wheels vertically as needed to maintain traction beneath and a smooth ride above.

And electric actuators will displace the steel camshaft on every valved engine. Put each valve under precise, direct, digital-electric control, actuated independently by its own compact electric motor?open and close each valve as dictated by current engine temperature, terrain, load, and countless other variables?and, in effect, you continuously retune the engine for peak performance. Belts, shafts, and chains melt away. Everything shrinks, everything gets lighter, and every aspect of performance improves?dramatically.

To meet this steadily rising demand for electric power, car manufacturers are making the transition to a 42-volt grid to replace the existing 14-volt grid. Lower-voltage wires just can't convey large amounts of power efficiently. A new 42-volt industry standard emerged recently, and half of global automobile production will be on a 42-volt platform within the next decade or so.

Next-generation integrated high-power alternator/starter motors have already been incorporated in BMWs and Benzes, and in Ford and GM trucks; about half of all new cars will have them by 2010. These units will supply the car with abundant, efficiently generated electric power, in a much lighter package, that will provide a virtually instant engine start as well.


Cheap in the Gearbox


This will set the stage for the last big step?the one already taken in monster trucks: Silicon and electric power will knock out the entire gearbox, driveshaft, differential, and related hardware; electric drives power the motors that turn the wheels. Power chips now make it possible to build high-power motors the size of a coffee can, and prices are dropping fast. When such motors finally begin driving the wheels, the entire output of the engine will have to be converted immediately into electricity before it is distributed, used, or stored throughout the car. It will take heavy-duty wiring and substantial

silicon drives and electric motors to propel a hybrid-electric sport utility vehicle down a highway at 70 mph?but they'll be far smaller than the steel structures in today's powertrain. Cars will shed many hundreds of pounds, and every key aspect of performance will improve considerably.

As this process unfolds, the engineering focus will shift inexorably toward finding the most efficient means of generating electricity on-board. Trains and monster trucks both use big diesel generators. Hybrid cars on the road today burn gasoline, but it's the fuel cell that attracts the most attention from visionaries and critics of the internal combustion engine. Remarkably elegant in its basic operation, the fuel cell transforms fuel into electricity in a single step, completely bypassing the furnace, turbine, and generator. In this scenario, mechanical engineering ultimately surrenders its last major under-the-hood citadel to chemical engineers.

Much the same transformation is well under way in the factory. The 19th-century factory was powered by a single driveshaft spanning the length of the building; belts and chains delivered power to each individual work bay. That primary mechanical driveshaft gave way to electric power long ago, with motors powering the lathe, drill, or milling machine in each workstation. But, by and large, the motors still connect to shafts and belts and compressors. As in the car, mechanical systems still control the last few meters of the powertrain.


I, Sensitive Robot


The new industrial robots, however, are complex configurations of electric servo motors; the electric power now runs right to the final threshold of where the power is needed. Packed with sensors, the robots are now precise, sensitive, and far more compact than any mechanical alternative. They are also far more flexible?they now can be instantly reconfigured to perform new tasks through software alone, a dramatic advance over previous systems that required hours of manual rewiring.

At the same time, high-power lasers?built around another family of recently developed semiconductors?are rapidly taking over functions previously viewed as mechanical. At kilowatt and megawatt power levels, lasers don't move bits, they move material. They fuse powdered metals into finished parts, without any machining, cutting, or joining. They supply ultra-fine heating, soldering, drilling, cutting, and materials processing, with fantastic improvements in speed, precision, and efficiency. They create thermal pulses that can blast metals and other materials off a source and deposit them on a target to create entire new classes of material coatings. They move ink in printers?not just desktop devices, but also the mammoth machines used to produce newspapers. They solder optoelectronic chips without destroying the silicon real estate around them, and they supply unequaled precision in the bulk processing of workaday materials?heat treating, welding, polymer bonding, sintering, soldering, epoxy curing, and the hardening, abrading, and milling of surfaces.

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Delphi has sold millions of its electric power steering units, which eliminate hoses, pump, and hydraulic fluid.

Mechanical systems can be remarkably clever?just look at how a high-end mechanical watch powers and times the movement of hands around the watch face. In engines and machines of every description, much of the mechanical engineering is still devoted to imposing a desired logic on the flow of power. Until quite recently, EEs themselves relied on at least semi-mechanical systems to choreograph and order the flow of electricity. The huge electromechanical switches that phone companies used to route calls until the 1960s set up circuits by reconfiguring tapestry-like arrays of small, electromechanical switches?thousands and thousands of them, clicking away, day and night. But the advent of the transistor?invented by Bell Labs?changed all that. Semiconductors now choreograph the flow of all-electric
(or photonic) power through our watches and our phone lines.

Pushing semiconductors up the power curve took 20 years longer than it did to push them down. But it has now been done. And these fundamentally new technologies of "digital power" make possible an extraordinary new variety of compact, affordable, product-assembling, platform-moving, people- moving, and power-projecting systems that seem to be all but magical. They will inevitably infiltrate, capture, and transform the capital infrastructure of our entire energy economy?the trillions of dollars of hardware that convert heat into motion, motion into electricity, and ordinary electricity into highly ordered electron and photon power.

One might say that the age of mechanical engineering was launched by James Watt's steam engine in 1763, and propelled through its second century by Nikolaus Otto's 1876 invention of the spark-ignited petroleum engine. We are now at the dawn of the age of electrical engineering, not because we recently learned how to generate light-speed electrical power, but because we have now finally learned how to control it.


Peter W. Huber, a former mechanical engineering instructor at MIT, is a senior fellow of the Manhattan Institute. Mark P. Mills, a physicist, is a founding partner of a venture fund, Digital Power Capital. They are co-authors of The Bottomless Well (Basic Books, 2005) .

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You still need someone to build everything. Hence the perpetual need for MEs and IEs (Industrial Engineers). EEs can't do everything. MEs will also adapt. A significant number of the MEs I go to school with are gettng minors in Fuel Cell Tech. It's a matter of changing with the times
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I can't see how MEs would disappear given physically existing machines are bloody necessary.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:I can't see how MEs would disappear given physically existing machines are bloody necessary.
Huber and Mills are probably deliberately using the most dramatic title. It is hard to believe an entire field could change that much, and ME is too big to be submerged into EE or a chimaera discipline.

Still, the potential shift away from the dominance of pure m.e. in so many of its traditional areas is pretty startling, and probably has been under way for a long time. MariusRoi's friends see the need to minor in something else as a natural investment.

A degree in business admin might also not be a bad idea, even though I understand a lot of serious engineers hate the idea of having to go into admin or sales.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:I can't see how MEs would disappear given physically existing machines are bloody necessary.
That's the way I see it, and I worked in the electronics industry before I became a government free-loader. Ok, so we move to electric motors, well someone still has to design the motor shafts, bearings, and figure out the packaging and mounting issues. Or the bus bars in a power system, how do we mount them to the vehicle or building? You still need MEs for all that, not to mention all the gears, levers, actuators, and other drive & movement systems.
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Mechanical engineers won't go away because purely mechanical operations are more reliable and have fewer points of failure than electrical ones. This is a bad example, but how many times have you ever had an abacus crash on you? Yes, it's slower, but it's also more reliable than computers. In the case of a computer though, the gigantic speed increase is worth the trade-off. However, in other fields, the trade-off isn't worth the addition of another point of failure.

This article seems to center around Star Trek-style fantasies about the future, where force fields will replace thick doors and "primitive levers" to control things will be discarded in favor of nifty-neato LCD touchscreens or something. At the end of the day though, cars will still need frames, computers will still need cases and heat dissipation and boats will still operate on buoyancy.

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The author of the article is just trying to be provocative. Look at his prime example of a vehicle that replaces mechanical transmissions with electrrical ones. Does this mean that you no longer need to worry about whether its structural members can handle the load? Does it mean that you no longer need that diesel engine? Does it mean that you can build those electrical motors with no mechanical processes or knowledge?

All modern engineering is collaborative multi-disciplinary work. He should surely know this, and is undoubtedly just trying to panic people for some rhetorical reason.
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All modern engineering is collaborative multi-disciplinary work. He should surely know this, and is undoubtedly just trying to panic people for some rhetorical reason.
Maybe, or maybe he's just suffering from new-toy syndrome "Oooh, look at this new gadget/ technique ! It can do everything better and replace everything !" I think he heard of/ figured out this new design tendency and got all overenthusiastic.
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Sorry, but until we achieve a "civilisation without instrumentalities", mechanical engineers aren't going to be disappearing any time soon.
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Lord of the Abyss wrote:
All modern engineering is collaborative multi-disciplinary work. He should surely know this, and is undoubtedly just trying to panic people for some rhetorical reason.
Maybe, or maybe he's just suffering from new-toy syndrome "Oooh, look at this new gadget/ technique ! It can do everything better and replace everything !" I think he heard of/ figured out this new design tendency and got all overenthusiastic.
That's no excuse. Even if someone has been taken in by that new-toy "one size fits all" nonsense, he should surely recognize that even if we went to all-electric linkages with no more mechanical linkages at all, someone still has to manufacture the fucking things, not to mention making sure that this wonderful all-electric transmission is in a car that won't fall apart when you hit the brakes. He makes it sound as if consumer goods such as compact-disc players are somehow designed and manufactured without any kind of mechanical engineering methods.

But there have always been these kinds of naysayers. Anyone old enough here to remember the wild-eyed futurists in the 80s saying that we would become a 100% service economy within the next few decades? Because industry as we know it is dead?
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While it's true that traditional ME has decreased in relative importance they are still needed just like other people have mentioned. Also ME is now moving in new directions like biomechanical engineering or nanotech.

That said, these people are obviously have no clue on what is going on in the science/engineering fields nowadays. Judging from their current jobs, I'd say that they have been out of touch.
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That's no excuse. Even if someone has been taken in by that new-toy "one size fits all" nonsense, he should surely recognize that even if we went to all-electric linkages with no more mechanical linkages at all, someone still has to manufacture the fucking things, not to mention making sure that this wonderful all-electric transmission is in a car that won't fall apart when you hit the brakes.

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Anyone old enough here to remember the wild-eyed futurists in the 80s saying that we would become a 100% service economy within the next few decades? Because industry as we know it is dead?
I didn't say it was an excuse, I offered it as a explanation for his ... overenthusiasm. :)

And yes, I remember those futurists; I also remember the "New Economy" types in the 90's who thought everything would go digital and the mere physical economy was obsolete. Some things never really change; the content might but not the pattern.

Really, the only thing that could eliminate a basic disipline like ME would be design AI so good you can use it like Aladdin's lamp -

Human : "Design a new supersonic passenger plane, 200 passenger capacity".
AI : "Design complete. What color would you like it ?"

That is just a little bit beyond our capabilities, so I expect ME to be around a long, long time.

Oh, and when I called ME a "Basic Disipline", I meant to distinguish it from such things as buggy whip manufacturing. Specific technologies and techniques come and go, but basic tasks and techniques stay with us. As long as people need to design actual machines that do physical tasks, ME will be necessary - even if we could make everything solid-state and manipulate matter with sci-fi force fields and tractor beams, we'd still need to worry about such things as the mechanical strength of the magic machines. It would be embarrassing if you made something like the 2001 monolith that fell apart from it's own weight, or if it overbalanced and went "boom". :)
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Lord of the Abyss wrote:Really, the only thing that could eliminate a basic disipline like ME would be design AI so good you can use it like Aladdin's lamp -

Human : "Design a new supersonic passenger plane, 200 passenger capacity".
AI : "Design complete. What color would you like it ?"

That is just a little bit beyond our capabilities, so I expect ME to be around a long, long time.
If there were no more mechanical engineers, who would maintain and debug this software? Who would even know how to identify a bug? Isn't this a bit like saying that nobody needs to learn math because we have calculators?
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The company I'm working for right now, which is designing a product that's almost entirely electrical, contracts a mechanical engineering to design the case for the product. The case, ie the metal box you put it in. We'll still need mechanical engineers for a while to come.
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If there were no more mechanical engineers, who would maintain and debug this software? Who would even know how to identify a bug? Isn't this a bit like saying that nobody needs to learn math because we have calculators?
Well I assume the AI would have to be good enough to debug itself, or at least a different AI would do the job. I did say it was unrealistic any time soon. :)

Seriously, your calculator and math analogy is a good one. Have you ever read the Asimov short story The Feeling of Power ? It's set in a future that has used computers for mathematics for so long that the idea that humans can perform math is a utter shock; no one remembered it was ever done that way. My Aladdin AI ( assuming it's possible ) would no doubt produce the same situation. We would forget how to do ME or any other kind of engineering and depend on the AI for all design, until we reached a point where a human designing a paper plane by himself would astonish everybody.
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Lord of the Abyss wrote:We would forget how to do ME or any other kind of engineering and depend on the AI for all design, until we reached a point where a human designing a paper plane by himself would astonish everybody.
The GeoSlope package is a marvelous program for geotechnical engineers. SlopeW and SeepW can be coupled together to evaluate, dam stabily for instance during the filling of the up stream resevoir. And when you evaluate the results it will say that you are getting slumps everywhere on the dam face. Makes you wonder if it would ever stand up in the first place.

The thing is the program is talking shit.

It is no better than the code that went into it and the assumptions behind that code. And it still needs to be interpreted in order to be useful. When programs become black boxes to those that use them nothing good can ever come from it.
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