Transiting Planet with MONSTER CORE Discovered!

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2005-06-30 06:51pm

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=17307
http://skyandtelescope.com/news/article_1538_1.asp
http://tauceti.sfsu.edu/n2k/

130 Earth Masses with a ~70 Earth-Mass Rock/Metal Core.

That's a fucking gigantic chunk of rock!

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2005-06-30 08:10pm

Now that's just crazy.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-07-01 12:29am

It's Unicron!

Zero · Post by **Zero** » 2005-07-01 12:40am

You just know that proponents of ID are going to look at this and state that because we don't have a core-accretion model that could account for something like this, our models for creation must all be wrong. They'll also try and say that it's orbital plane is in our line of site because God wanted us to see this. Even so, this is a quite interesting find.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2005-07-01 03:35am

Playing basketball on that planet would rather suck I suppose

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2005-07-01 03:46am

wautd wrote:Playing basketball on that planet would rather suck I suppose

Well seeing as this planet..

That Science Guy wrote:The planet, orbiting the sun-like star HD 149026, is roughly equal in mass to Saturn, but it is significantly smaller in diameter. It takes just 2.87 days to circle its star, and the upper atmosphere temperature is approximately 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Modeling of the planet's structure shows it has a solid core approximately 70 times Earth's mass.

You would burst into flames then be crushed to death, not nessarly in that order, you might be onfire AS you were crushed to death.

Erik von Nein · Post by **Erik von Nein** » 2005-07-01 03:59am

Mr Bean wrote:
That Science Guy wrote:The planet, orbiting the sun-like star HD 149026, is roughly equal in mass to Saturn, but it is significantly smaller in diameter. It takes just 2.87 days to circle its star, and the upper atmosphere temperature is approximately 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Modeling of the planet's structure shows it has a solid core approximately 70 times Earth's mass.
You would burst into flames then be crushed to death, not nessarly in that order, you might be onfire AS you were crushed to death.

Quick! We need to do an experiment. Who wants to volenteer?

Seriously, though, that find is just freakin' awesome.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2005-07-01 04:33am

Zero132132 wrote:You just know that proponents of ID are going to look at this and state that because we don't have a core-accretion model that could account for something like this, our models for creation must all be wrong.

Off the top of my head, IF you had an inward-migrating late-stage planetessimal that got lucky enough to hit its inner buddies at some oblique angles, you could scoop up all the mass, and anything that big would have such high gravity that it wouldn't loose debris to impacts later-on.

Don't ask me what's keeping it from getting sucked into its star, though. As I understand it, its not a gas giant in the traditional sense.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2005-07-01 04:34am

Ghetto edit:

Misread the article. my new (and better) idea is that you had an asteroid pass through the planetary nebula and short-circuit the core accretion, scooping up everything before other cores could form.

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2005-07-01 10:31am

Dude, can you imagine what life would be like evolving from a planet like that?

Trogdor · Post by **Trogdor** » 2005-07-01 12:14pm

Very stong and very heat resistant...

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2005-07-01 12:45pm

Crossroads Inc. wrote:Dude, can you imagine what life would be like evolving from a planet like that?

Silicoids?

always hated those fuckers

Mr. T · Post by **Mr. T** » 2005-07-01 01:14pm

Really awesome find. That is fucking gigantic!

GrandMasterTerwynn · Post by **GrandMasterTerwynn** » 2005-07-01 01:43pm

Crossroads Inc. wrote:Dude, can you imagine what life would be like evolving from a planet like that?

Entirely sterile. The day side of the planet is hot enough to melt a number of metals, and the atmosphere will transfer much of that heat to the night side. Virtually all the volatiles required for life would've been driven off, and the planet is liable to have slilicate clouds.

That NOS Guy · Post by **That NOS Guy** » 2005-07-01 02:06pm

I'd also imagine if such an occurance (which is nigh impossible, or at least for life as we know it) were to happen they'd be on the short side of things.

Junghalli · Post by **Junghalli** » 2005-07-01 06:32pm

That NOS Guy wrote:I'd also imagine if such an occurance (which is nigh impossible, or at least for life as we know it) were to happen they'd be on the short side of things.

If I interpret correctly the planet would still externally resemble a gas giant, in that it would have an incredibly deep and thick atmosphere and no reachable solid surface. It would just have a really huge rocky core in it.

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2005-07-01 09:36pm

Junghalli wrote:
That NOS Guy wrote:I'd also imagine if such an occurance (which is nigh impossible, or at least for life as we know it) were to happen they'd be on the short side of things.
If I interpret correctly the planet would still externally resemble a gas giant, in that it would have an incredibly deep and thick atmosphere and no reachable solid surface. It would just have a really huge rocky core in it.

So they're short, tough and they smoke a lot:

I give you the Chimney-Hobbit Theory of Gas Giant Formation.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2005-07-02 12:01am

I don't think it's Unicron mike.

However, it would keep him feed for a while.

But, imagine the strip mining potiental for that planet.

I mean, that much mass, imagine the mineral resources, the ores.

Off course, getting them might be hard, but I figure by the time we have the technology to get to that rock with any speed, that wouldn't be a problem

Junghalli · Post by **Junghalli** » 2005-07-02 02:27pm

Solauren wrote:But, imagine the strip mining potiental for that planet.
I mean, that much mass, imagine the mineral resources, the ores.

Pretty hard to strip mine what IIRC essentially comes down to a gas giant with a huge rocky core. You'd have to find a way to somehow get through or blow off multiple Earth masses of atmosphere. And when you're done you're going to have a molten planet with absolutely crushing gravity. Putting aside the problems of even getting any machinery to work under those conditions (certainly the place would be utterly uninhabitable to humans-even with space suits and environmentally sealed habitats the gravity would kill them instantly) the high gravity would make it very hard to get anything up to escape velocity.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2005-07-02 03:47pm

May I remind you to get there we'd need FTL drives?

Any society with FTL drives should find those problems no-brainers.

Besides, if you want to remove planetary atmospheres, take a que from Spaceballs and vaccum them off.

Hmmmm, that gives me an idea for a Sci-fi story

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2005-07-02 03:50pm

I honestly cant wait for us to strip mine a planet like that. we're not likely to live on it, so we can completely remove every trace of metal there. Imagine what could be built with that much metal

Zero · Post by **Zero** » 2005-07-02 04:03pm

Enforcer Talen wrote:I honestly cant wait for us to strip mine a planet like that. we're not likely to live on it, so we can completely remove every trace of metal there. Imagine what could be built with that much metal

70 earths, apparently.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2005-07-02 04:07pm

Awesome. Ive always wanted my own planet.

Magrathea, here we come.

Manus Celer Dei · Post by **Manus Celer Dei** » 2005-07-02 05:22pm

Come to think of it...Didn't the Necrons evolve on an incredibly hot planet close to their star?

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-07-02 05:25pm

Manus Celer Dei wrote:Come to think of it...Didn't the Necrons evolve on an incredibly hot planet close to their star?

It had extreme weather changes and magnetic pull, Unless I am very much mistaken and Necron lord flames me.
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